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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; Turning the tide&#8230;more lessons from the music industry&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-378838</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Turning the tide&#8230;more lessons from the music industry&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at an industry level, despite warnings that lessons from the music industry give us, the media often resort to these Cnut tactics. The MSM&#8217;s use and threat of legal [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at an industry level, despite warnings that lessons from the music industry give us, the media often resort to these Cnut tactics. The MSM&#8217;s use and threat of legal [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Independent Music Publishing Business</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-361236</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent Music Publishing Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Moderator: Good content. Any info about independent music publishing business ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Moderator: Good content. Any info about independent music publishing business ?</p>
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		<title>By: Journalist as Brand &#171; Janice on Cape Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-205247</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalist as Brand &#171; Janice on Cape Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2006 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Well, I can think of a few friends and associates. Jeff Jarvis on &#8220;Independent journalist as brand&#8221; &#8212; if you&#8217;re worried about your future, read this.  Explore posts in the same categories: Uncategorized [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Well, I can think of a few friends and associates. Jeff Jarvis on &#8220;Independent journalist as brand&#8221; &#8212; if you&#8217;re worried about your future, read this.  Explore posts in the same categories: Uncategorized [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mathewingram.com/media &#187; Reporter decides to go it alone</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-168078</link>
		<dc:creator>mathewingram.com/media &#187; Reporter decides to go it alone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 22:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with del.icio.us &#160; &#124; &#160; Email this entry  &#160; &#124; &#160; TrackBack URI &#160; &#124; &#160; Digg it &#160; &#124; &#160; Track with co.mments &#160; &#124; &#160; &#160; &#124; &#160; Cosmos      Click here forcopyright permissions!   Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with del.icio.us &nbsp; | &nbsp; Email this entry  &nbsp; | &nbsp; TrackBack URI &nbsp; | &nbsp; Digg it &nbsp; | &nbsp; Track with co.mments &nbsp; | &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp; Cosmos      Click here forcopyright permissions!   Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I&#8217;m Free &#171; Janice on Cape Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-162711</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;m Free &#171; Janice on Cape Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But thinking in new directions this time. See this Jeff Jarvis post on journalists building brands [ahem]. He wasn&#8217;t quite sure how this works for editors, but I think I know. Leastways, that&#8217;s where I&#8217;m thinking right now. And aside from 3AM panic attacks that involve Mortgage Monsters, this should prove more interesting.  Explore posts in the same categories: Uncategorized [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But thinking in new directions this time. See this Jeff Jarvis post on journalists building brands [ahem]. He wasn&#8217;t quite sure how this works for editors, but I think I know. Leastways, that&#8217;s where I&#8217;m thinking right now. And aside from 3AM panic attacks that involve Mortgage Monsters, this should prove more interesting.  Explore posts in the same categories: Uncategorized [...]</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2006-10-16 &#171; å¦Trigram</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2006-10-16 &#171; å¦Trigram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 06:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» Independent journalist as brand (tags: marketing Business_Week blogging journalism brandU) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paid popularity</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-161992</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Paid popularity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As more of us become independent, and as we need to support our efforts with traffic and advertising, the more we will have to work diligently to protect our own credibility, our own brands, and cope with the issues of church and state ourselves: my left side is church, the right is state. [Hat tip to Andrew Tyndall for making me write this, in the comments here.] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As more of us become independent, and as we need to support our efforts with traffic and advertising, the more we will have to work diligently to protect our own credibility, our own brands, and cope with the issues of church and state ourselves: my left side is church, the right is state. [Hat tip to Andrew Tyndall for making me write this, in the comments here.] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogrolle.net : Jeder will ein Blogger sein</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-161950</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogrolle.net : Jeder will ein Blogger sein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Journalisten k&#246;nnten dann selbst zu Medienmarken werden. Why shouldnâ€™t many of its columnists be on their own, building their own brand names (&#8230;). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Journalisten k&#246;nnten dann selbst zu Medienmarken werden. Why shouldnâ€™t many of its columnists be on their own, building their own brand names (&#8230;). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Saunders</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-161683</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Saunders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 04:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Two words: Spider Jerusalem.

Warren Ellis saw this coming down the pipe ten years agoâ€¦ &lt;/i&gt;

weeell, given that Spider Jerusalem is mostly Hunter S Thompson, I'd say Hunter should get the credit....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Two words: Spider Jerusalem.</p>
<p>Warren Ellis saw this coming down the pipe ten years agoâ€¦ </i></p>
<p>weeell, given that Spider Jerusalem is mostly Hunter S Thompson, I&#8217;d say Hunter should get the credit&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tyndall</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160835</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Tyndall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion of Business 2.0's conversion of its staff into paid-per-click bloggers at &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/10/13/the-business-20-of-jou_e_31645.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Eat the Press&lt;/a&gt; seems germane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion of Business 2.0&#8217;s conversion of its staff into paid-per-click bloggers at <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/2006/10/13/the-business-20-of-jou_e_31645.html" rel="nofollow">Eat the Press</a> seems germane.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Waghorn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160660</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Waghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies if I confuse anyone with my football, your soccer but it's not all about brand - as helpful as that undoubtedly is.

Because on days like today - Norwich City Football Club, my chosen specialist subject - have been in the midst of appointing a new manager and at that point being a 'stand-alone' operation is all about functionality, not brand. Donald Duck could be writing it, but as a big news story breaks and now - free from newspapers and print press slots - I follow the story in a rolling CNN, FoxSports style way and take it straight to my readers PCs, lap-tops and mobiles, so the value of the 'brand' diminishes. It's all about the delivery mechanism - ie one that trails events 45-60 minutes or whatever after, not a whole day later if you're still tied in to the newspaper 'brand'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies if I confuse anyone with my football, your soccer but it&#8217;s not all about brand - as helpful as that undoubtedly is.</p>
<p>Because on days like today - Norwich City Football Club, my chosen specialist subject - have been in the midst of appointing a new manager and at that point being a &#8217;stand-alone&#8217; operation is all about functionality, not brand. Donald Duck could be writing it, but as a big news story breaks and now - free from newspapers and print press slots - I follow the story in a rolling CNN, FoxSports style way and take it straight to my readers PCs, lap-tops and mobiles, so the value of the &#8216;brand&#8217; diminishes. It&#8217;s all about the delivery mechanism - ie one that trails events 45-60 minutes or whatever after, not a whole day later if you&#8217;re still tied in to the newspaper &#8216;brand&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Grouch</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160653</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Grouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might be interesting to chart the hit count at &lt;a href="http://www.lileks.com/bleats/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Bleat&lt;/a&gt; against the &lt;a href="http://www.startribune.com/804" rel="nofollow"&gt;Star Tribune's&lt;/a&gt; circulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be interesting to chart the hit count at <a href="http://www.lileks.com/bleats/" rel="nofollow">The Bleat</a> against the <a href="http://www.startribune.com/804" rel="nofollow">Star Tribune&#8217;s</a> circulation.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Waghorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Waghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 16:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies if get my soccer and my football mixed up, but it's not all about being a brand - as helpful as that might be.
Taking a newspaper - and above all its print press out of the loop entirely - gives me a huge head-start on my former newsprint-based employers in terms of straight functionality; today Norwich City Football Club - my chosen specialised subject are in midst of appointing a new manager; I follow that 'story' as a breaking news event as would CNN, FoxSports or whoever - only in written form. And my readers follow it - either via Web or WAP. That's not brand working - Donald Duck could write it; its functionality; it's not having to wait for a print press to roll....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies if get my soccer and my football mixed up, but it&#8217;s not all about being a brand - as helpful as that might be.<br />
Taking a newspaper - and above all its print press out of the loop entirely - gives me a huge head-start on my former newsprint-based employers in terms of straight functionality; today Norwich City Football Club - my chosen specialised subject are in midst of appointing a new manager; I follow that &#8217;story&#8217; as a breaking news event as would CNN, FoxSports or whoever - only in written form. And my readers follow it - either via Web or WAP. That&#8217;s not brand working - Donald Duck could write it; its functionality; it&#8217;s not having to wait for a print press to roll&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig McGinty</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160628</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig McGinty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is important that freelancers look to other means of income as budgets are cut, and producing their own news/advice sites is a method they should be investigating.

I wouldn't suggest diving straight in, but if they can find a few hours a week and cover a subject they already have a knowledge of, they will soon find out if it is a way forward for them.

Although I think the US is still ahead of the UK with this method of self-publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is important that freelancers look to other means of income as budgets are cut, and producing their own news/advice sites is a method they should be investigating.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t suggest diving straight in, but if they can find a few hours a week and cover a subject they already have a knowledge of, they will soon find out if it is a way forward for them.</p>
<p>Although I think the US is still ahead of the UK with this method of self-publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Ellis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Ellis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I tried to do for myself about four years ago, but the business climate wasn't ready yet. While I managed to break some fairly weighty stories, it was the days before Blogads and Google Adsense, and the like. And it was tough to finally justify a couple of hundred hours worth to make the equivalent of ten cents an hour.

It's a much different environment now, not just financially, but professionally. There are more opportunities and more chances for partnerships that provide some sort of base salary that makes it all feasible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I tried to do for myself about four years ago, but the business climate wasn&#8217;t ready yet. While I managed to break some fairly weighty stories, it was the days before Blogads and Google Adsense, and the like. And it was tough to finally justify a couple of hundred hours worth to make the equivalent of ten cents an hour.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a much different environment now, not just financially, but professionally. There are more opportunities and more chances for partnerships that provide some sort of base salary that makes it all feasible.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160589</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 14:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I.F. Stone was the original model for this. He created his own (print) newsletter and did his own reporting. Transferring this to online is just the next logical step.

Josh Marshall seems to be successful with this model at talkingpointsmeno which he has been running for several years now. He has even created some companion sites: TPMmuckraker and TPMcafe. I'm sure his prior work as a print journalist helped him get established online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I.F. Stone was the original model for this. He created his own (print) newsletter and did his own reporting. Transferring this to online is just the next logical step.</p>
<p>Josh Marshall seems to be successful with this model at talkingpointsmeno which he has been running for several years now. He has even created some companion sites: TPMmuckraker and TPMcafe. I&#8217;m sure his prior work as a print journalist helped him get established online.</p>
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		<title>By: Jersey Exile</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/13/independent-journalist-as-brand/#comment-160563</link>
		<dc:creator>Jersey Exile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;What happens when journalists become independent operators, when they become brands?&lt;/em&gt;

Two words:  Spider Jerusalem.

Warren Ellis saw this coming down the pipe ten years ago...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What happens when journalists become independent operators, when they become brands?</em></p>
<p>Two words:  Spider Jerusalem.</p>
<p>Warren Ellis saw this coming down the pipe ten years ago&#8230;</p>
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