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		<title>By: Hugh MacLeod</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-163665</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the things that makes The Guardian so interesting is that they are owned by a private trust. They are not owned by Wall Street-type shareholders. If they were, I doubt Guardian.co.uk would be allowed to operate the way it does.

[Disclosure:] I&#039;ve published cartoons in The Guardian before, but not for a while...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things that makes The Guardian so interesting is that they are owned by a private trust. They are not owned by Wall Street-type shareholders. If they were, I doubt Guardian.co.uk would be allowed to operate the way it does.</p>
<p>[Disclosure:] I&#8217;ve published cartoons in The Guardian before, but not for a while&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-163582</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nuts. I dunno who &quot;Nile&quot; is but that looks like a spambot that quoted my post and reposted here. Didn&#039;t intend to invite such, uh, click-whores. 

Haydn asked a question on my blog that I can address here, too: he wonders why I&#039;ve called the Guardian &quot;forward-thinking by any media analystâ€™s standards&quot;, and I concede I was focusing on a few points in that regard. 

On &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.web2.0newspapers.com/?p=71&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my post&lt;/a&gt;, Haydn asks (see comments): 

&quot;I canâ€™t quite understand why so positive. The paper loses $15 million a year (this year $50 million+. It puts the screws on its staff while awarding bonuses to its editor, the conditions at papers that supply the revenues for the Guardian to lose money are not so greatâ€¦. where is the liberal mantel?&quot; 

Much as the Guardian appears to be losing money, Greenslade reported in July that it&#039;s the only &quot;serious&quot; UK paper for which sales have increased. (Granted, the post in general discussed &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/greenslade/2006/07/the_death_of_a_newspaper_sales.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;the death of a newspaper sales dream&quot;&lt;/a&gt;, so the post in its context supports haydn&#039;s point along with the &quot;bulk&quot; numbers mentioned there). Now, Haydn, I&#039;m sure you&#039;re still correct that it&#039;s losing the money you say it is; I don&#039;t deny that. 

As for how the Guardian as a company treats its workers, Haydn I thank you for brining such issues to light, as perhaps I&#039;ve been swayed by their own self-congratulatory audit in general, since that&#039;s the kind of project I wish I heard more about. I can&#039;t recall many North American papers, if any, doing such an audit. For example, as far as I know, the Globe and Mail, easily Canada&#039;s most &quot;serious&quot; paper, hasn&#039;t been so transparent as the Guardian (in its audit) to begin with, much less to that extent. So I applauded the action the paper took by opening up, but perhaps missed some of the context. I still think it&#039;s a great idea and hope other papers follow the model, with the environmental concerns as high on the list, too. 

Even if the Guardian doesn&#039;t for some reason deserve the &quot;liberal mantle&quot; I noted, it does hav some edge. The blogs it publishes are solid, especially CiF, the news blog and Greenslade. From where I sit overe here in North America, it looks like a progressive, raising-the-bar kind of paper. Maybe its corporate practices need questioning? Okay, all the more reason to further the discussion online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nuts. I dunno who &#8220;Nile&#8221; is but that looks like a spambot that quoted my post and reposted here. Didn&#8217;t intend to invite such, uh, click-whores. </p>
<p>Haydn asked a question on my blog that I can address here, too: he wonders why I&#8217;ve called the Guardian &#8220;forward-thinking by any media analystâ€™s standards&#8221;, and I concede I was focusing on a few points in that regard. </p>
<p>On <a href="http://www.web2.0newspapers.com/?p=71" rel="nofollow">my post</a>, Haydn asks (see comments): </p>
<p>&#8220;I canâ€™t quite understand why so positive. The paper loses $15 million a year (this year $50 million+. It puts the screws on its staff while awarding bonuses to its editor, the conditions at papers that supply the revenues for the Guardian to lose money are not so greatâ€¦. where is the liberal mantel?&#8221; </p>
<p>Much as the Guardian appears to be losing money, Greenslade reported in July that it&#8217;s the only &#8220;serious&#8221; UK paper for which sales have increased. (Granted, the post in general discussed <a href="http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/greenslade/2006/07/the_death_of_a_newspaper_sales.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;the death of a newspaper sales dream&#8221;</a>, so the post in its context supports haydn&#8217;s point along with the &#8220;bulk&#8221; numbers mentioned there). Now, Haydn, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re still correct that it&#8217;s losing the money you say it is; I don&#8217;t deny that. </p>
<p>As for how the Guardian as a company treats its workers, Haydn I thank you for brining such issues to light, as perhaps I&#8217;ve been swayed by their own self-congratulatory audit in general, since that&#8217;s the kind of project I wish I heard more about. I can&#8217;t recall many North American papers, if any, doing such an audit. For example, as far as I know, the Globe and Mail, easily Canada&#8217;s most &#8220;serious&#8221; paper, hasn&#8217;t been so transparent as the Guardian (in its audit) to begin with, much less to that extent. So I applauded the action the paper took by opening up, but perhaps missed some of the context. I still think it&#8217;s a great idea and hope other papers follow the model, with the environmental concerns as high on the list, too. </p>
<p>Even if the Guardian doesn&#8217;t for some reason deserve the &#8220;liberal mantle&#8221; I noted, it does hav some edge. The blogs it publishes are solid, especially CiF, the news blog and Greenslade. From where I sit overe here in North America, it looks like a progressive, raising-the-bar kind of paper. Maybe its corporate practices need questioning? Okay, all the more reason to further the discussion online.</p>
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		<title>By: Nile</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-163316</link>
		<dc:creator>Nile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guardian Newspapers Ltd., which publishes the Guardian and other titles and is forward-thinking by any media analyst&#039; standards, has once again released its self-done audit, which addresses social, ethical and environmental issues for the paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian Newspapers Ltd., which publishes the Guardian and other titles and is forward-thinking by any media analyst&#8217; standards, has once again released its self-done audit, which addresses social, ethical and environmental issues for the paper.</p>
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		<title>By: alan rusbridger</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-163092</link>
		<dc:creator>alan rusbridger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haydn wants to know if we pay freelancers decently and whether we respect their intellectual property

-- we negotiate minimum freelance rates with the national union of journalists. And a few years ago we set up a mini tribunal to settle the IP question. It was composed of figures with union and management background and resulted in a freelance agreement that was acceptable to all and become something of a model for the rest of the print industry in the UK</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haydn wants to know if we pay freelancers decently and whether we respect their intellectual property</p>
<p>&#8211; we negotiate minimum freelance rates with the national union of journalists. And a few years ago we set up a mini tribunal to settle the IP question. It was composed of figures with union and management background and resulted in a freelance agreement that was acceptable to all and become something of a model for the rest of the print industry in the UK</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Guardian Transparency Model (via BuzzMachine), Greenslade: Net Media Changing the Code?, and News Service Accountability</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-162902</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Guardian Transparency Model (via BuzzMachine), Greenslade: Net Media Changing the Code?, and News Service Accountability</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardian Unlimited editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger, in a recent appearance at the Shorenstein Center&#039;s (Harvard) 20th anniversary event and conference on the future of news, spoke about his paper&#039;s editorial transparency and set of values. Jeff Jarvis blogs it and makes some great comments as usual. Guardian Newspapers Ltd., which publishes the Guardian and other titles and is forward-thinking by any media analyst&#039; standards, has once again released its self-done audit, which addresses social, ethical and environmental issues for the paper. I&#039;m certainly glad the latter is among the issues being addressed, though that section doesn&#039;t mention anything about switching to vegetable-based inks (link 1, link 2) &#8212; but I&#039;m not disappointed so much as offering another green tip.&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Guardian Unlimited editor-in-chief Alan Rusbridger, in a recent appearance at the Shorenstein Center&#39;s (Harvard) 20th anniversary event and conference on the future of news, spoke about his paper&#39;s editorial transparency and set of values. Jeff Jarvis blogs it and makes some great comments as usual. Guardian Newspapers Ltd., which publishes the Guardian and other titles and is forward-thinking by any media analyst&#39; standards, has once again released its self-done audit, which addresses social, ethical and environmental issues for the paper. I&#39;m certainly glad the latter is among the issues being addressed, though that section doesn&#39;t mention anything about switching to vegetable-based inks (link 1, link 2) &#8212; but I&#39;m not disappointed so much as offering another green tip.&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-162767</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As we talk about transparency of the press and excercising our first ammendment rights, what are the parallels in a very restricted area of &quot;free speech&quot; -- campaign finance? Many people criticize the freedom of the press as completely unregulated compared to other freedoms that are almost too regulated.

Read more on this issue or write your own take:
http://jenerationwhy.blogspot.com/2006/10/cato-institute-forum-fallacy-of.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we talk about transparency of the press and excercising our first ammendment rights, what are the parallels in a very restricted area of &#8220;free speech&#8221; &#8212; campaign finance? Many people criticize the freedom of the press as completely unregulated compared to other freedoms that are almost too regulated.</p>
<p>Read more on this issue or write your own take:<br />
<a href="http://jenerationwhy.blogspot.com/2006/10/cato-institute-forum-fallacy-of.html" rel="nofollow">http://jenerationwhy.blogspot.com/2006/10/cato-institute-forum-fallacy-of.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: haydn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-162742</link>
		<dc:creator>haydn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - do you know do they pay their freelancers a fee that can add up to a living wage? And respect their intellectual property?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; do you know do they pay their freelancers a fee that can add up to a living wage? And respect their intellectual property?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Feinman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/16/the-transparent-guardian/#comment-162726</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Feinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transparency is an interesting issue in terms of the US newspaper business. This diary on dailyKos complains about the Seattle Time&#039;s endorsement of conservative Republican Reichert. His support of the estate tax repeal coincides with the efforts of the owning Blethen family. They are part of the effort of 18 super rich families to have the tax eliminated. Their efforts have been documented in this summary report:
http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf

&lt;blockquote&gt;the [Blethen] family would save approximately 253.9 million if the tax were repealed&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now it&#039;s their newspaper so, they can support any position they wish (especially on the editorial page), but should they reveal their self-interest in the matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transparency is an interesting issue in terms of the US newspaper business. This diary on dailyKos complains about the Seattle Time&#8217;s endorsement of conservative Republican Reichert. His support of the estate tax repeal coincides with the efforts of the owning Blethen family. They are part of the effort of 18 super rich families to have the tax eliminated. Their efforts have been documented in this summary report:<br />
<a href="http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.citizen.org/documents/EstateTaxFinal.pdf</a></p>
<blockquote><p>the [Blethen] family would save approximately 253.9 million if the tax were repealed</p></blockquote>
<p>Now it&#8217;s their newspaper so, they can support any position they wish (especially on the editorial page), but should they reveal their self-interest in the matter?</p>
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