Comments on: And on the seventh day, the presses rested http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Vulgorilla http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-165049 Vulgorilla Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:20:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-165049 Several years ago I switched the money I normally spent on newspapers / news magazines to a high speed Internet connection. I'll never go back. First, all of the stuff that was in the newspaper i.e. classifieds, comics, etc. is available on-line. Second, the newspapers moved the OpEd page to the front page without labeling it as such, which in my book is propaganda, and hence has no value to me, so I don't pay for it anymore. As far as I'm concerned, the newspapers / news magazines can all burn to the ground, and I'd never notice. I crave factual news, and newspapers / news magazines are definitely not the place to obtain it. They tend to print only those facts that support their political agenda, and omit those that don't. They even make some of it up to boot. I want all the facts, so the Internet is where I hang out ... and yes, it takes much longer than reading the newspaper, but at least when I'm done I have a better understanding of what really happened. Several years ago I switched the money I normally spent on newspapers / news magazines to a high speed Internet connection. I’ll never go back.

First, all of the stuff that was in the newspaper i.e. classifieds, comics, etc. is available on-line. Second, the newspapers moved the OpEd page to the front page without labeling it as such, which in my book is propaganda, and hence has no value to me, so I don’t pay for it anymore.

As far as I’m concerned, the newspapers / news magazines can all burn to the ground, and I’d never notice. I crave factual news, and newspapers / news magazines are definitely not the place to obtain it. They tend to print only those facts that support their political agenda, and omit those that don’t. They even make some of it up to boot. I want all the facts, so the Internet is where I hang out … and yes, it takes much longer than reading the newspaper, but at least when I’m done I have a better understanding of what really happened.

]]> By: Newspapers as Media « Digital Lantern http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-164521 Newspapers as Media « Digital Lantern Wed, 18 Oct 2006 11:02:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-164521 [...] Jeff Jarvis sheds his deconstructive light on print media roots by highlighting  newspaper editor CP Snow. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis sheds his deconstructive light on print media roots by highlighting  newspaper editor CP Snow. [...]

]]> By: adslfan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163989 adslfan Wed, 18 Oct 2006 01:02:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163989 you can get rid of mondays to fridays. people are too busy on myspace and youtube to read newspapers. you can get rid of mondays to fridays. people are too busy on myspace and youtube to read newspapers.

]]> By: ronbo http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163778 ronbo Tue, 17 Oct 2006 19:28:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163778 I agree with Jim, James and Peter that the Sunday paper ritual won't easily be replaced. To Jim's list of pub, sofa and breakfast I would only add, "in bed". I disagree with Peter, however, about the additional content (aka "assorted crap") bundled with the paper. I think it's a great strategy. It's another reason for non-subscribers to make an impulse buy at the newsstand, it can provide an additional revenue stream, and it can't readily be duplicated online. Obviously, free crap is still crap, but I've seen it done right. I was in France recently and on successive days got a Tintin book for my son via Le Figaro and a guide to the French real estate market from (of all places) Le Monde. I agree with Jim, James and Peter that the Sunday paper ritual won’t easily be replaced. To Jim’s list of pub, sofa and breakfast I would only add, “in bed”.

I disagree with Peter, however, about the additional content (aka “assorted crap”) bundled with the paper. I think it’s a great strategy. It’s another reason for non-subscribers to make an impulse buy at the newsstand, it can provide an additional revenue stream, and it can’t readily be duplicated online. Obviously, free crap is still crap, but I’ve seen it done right. I was in France recently and on successive days got a Tintin book for my son via Le Figaro and a guide to the French real estate market from (of all places) Le Monde.

]]> By: Rob Hyndman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163692 Rob Hyndman Tue, 17 Oct 2006 16:39:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163692 I'm leaning the other way - Saturday and Sunday are the only days I read in paper anymore, and I guard that time jealously. I’m leaning the other way – Saturday and Sunday are the only days I read in paper anymore, and I guard that time jealously.

]]> By: Jonny Goldstein http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163632 Jonny Goldstein Tue, 17 Oct 2006 15:38:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163632 I rarely read any of the papers in their paper form. Still, there's got to be a huge market among those who have not yet died but probably will in the next 25 years, and though it's declining, it makes sense to milk it while it lasts. I rarely read any of the papers in their paper form. Still, there’s got to be a huge market among those who have not yet died but probably will in the next 25 years, and though it’s declining, it makes sense to milk it while it lasts.

]]> By: Peter Hodder-Williams http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163594 Peter Hodder-Williams Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:53:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163594 Picking up on Jim’s comment on “ritual” – and agreeing with James Cooney: Kill the dailies, and just publish paper on Sunday. I for one only buy a paper on Sunday – the only day I have maintained any kind of “ritual” with a newspaper. I work from home, so no commute etc when I might have bought a paper in the past. Nonetheless, as more and more we look to alternative sources for instant news, isn’t the Sunday paper actually the one edition of the week with space for more in depth reporting, analysis and editorial that might actually justify printing it on paper? And please, no more DVDs, CD-ROMS and other assorted crap with my news. If you can’t sell it without the freebies, then sure – it’s time to stop. Picking up on Jim’s comment on “ritual” – and agreeing with James Cooney: Kill the dailies, and just publish paper on Sunday. I for one only buy a paper on Sunday – the only day I have maintained any kind of “ritual” with a newspaper. I work from home, so no commute etc when I might have bought a paper in the past. Nonetheless, as more and more we look to alternative sources for instant news, isn’t the Sunday paper actually the one edition of the week with space for more in depth reporting, analysis and editorial that might actually justify printing it on paper?

And please, no more DVDs, CD-ROMS and other assorted crap with my news. If you can’t sell it without the freebies, then sure – it’s time to stop.

]]> By: James Cooney http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163579 James Cooney Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:22:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163579 I'm in a bit of agreement with Jim Karna. It seems to me the Sunday paper, at least traditionally in the US, is the only day that really calls for a print product, provided the papers moved away from reporting, and towards more in depth editorial, arts, sports, etc. features for that Sunday edition. At that point, you're really talking about converting daily newspapers into an online news resource coupled with a print weekly magazine. This has often seemed an appealing destination to me. I’m in a bit of agreement with Jim Karna. It seems to me the Sunday paper, at least traditionally in the US, is the only day that really calls for a print product, provided the papers moved away from reporting, and towards more in depth editorial, arts, sports, etc. features for that Sunday edition. At that point, you’re really talking about converting daily newspapers into an online news resource coupled with a print weekly magazine. This has often seemed an appealing destination to me.

]]> By: Jim Karna http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163559 Jim Karna Tue, 17 Oct 2006 14:03:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163559 Or the free DVDs they're increasingly having to turn to... Buenavista Social Club was a nice little bonus in Sunday's Observer. Sunday papers will surely move more away from reporting news per se and more into weightier editorial in not just the news but the sport and review sections. Plus there'll be more specialist magazines like the Observer's sport/ music/ food monthly. Is there not something more ritualistic about The Sunday Paper, whether it's read in the pub, on the sofa, over breakfast? It's more social than checking editorial on line. Perhaps i'm old fashioned. Or the free DVDs they’re increasingly having to turn to… Buenavista Social Club was a nice little bonus in Sunday’s Observer.

Sunday papers will surely move more away from reporting news per se and more into weightier editorial in not just the news but the sport and review sections. Plus there’ll be more specialist magazines like the Observer’s sport/ music/ food monthly.

Is there not something more ritualistic about The Sunday Paper, whether it’s read in the pub, on the sofa, over breakfast? It’s more social than checking editorial on line. Perhaps i’m old fashioned.

]]> By: beloml http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163551 beloml Tue, 17 Oct 2006 13:55:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163551 Increasingly, I turn to the Sunday papers only for the editorials and the coupons. Increasingly, I turn to the Sunday papers only for the editorials and the coupons.

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163485 Terry Heaton Tue, 17 Oct 2006 12:36:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/17/and-on-the-seventh-day-the-presses-rested/#comment-163485 "shriveling like a year-old grape" Nice. “shriveling like a year-old grape”

Nice.

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