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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Roundup Oct. 25: Responding to Job Cuts at Newspapers, Online News Updates, the &#8216;Rsstroom&#8217; and More</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-173688</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Roundup Oct. 25: Responding to Job Cuts at Newspapers, Online News Updates, the &#8216;Rsstroom&#8217; and More</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, the Poynter Institute, which has opened its online career center, features a centerpiece by a young reporter Liam Dillon on surviving the j-job hunt. Not only should newspaper editors hiring young journos read this, but Jeff Jarvis&#39; insights &#8212; &#34;when will they learn: the young are smart&#34; &#8212; are worth a look, too. Remember, young people comprise an audience, but audiences are becoming the editors. Also, Jarvis&#39; reacts to a great Q &#38; A with Rob Curley on all things hyperlocal.     &#160;&#124;&#160; &#160;&#124;&#160; &#160;&#124;&#160; &#160;&#124;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, the Poynter Institute, which has opened its online career center, features a centerpiece by a young reporter Liam Dillon on surviving the j-job hunt. Not only should newspaper editors hiring young journos read this, but Jeff Jarvis&#39; insights &#8212; &quot;when will they learn: the young are smart&quot; &#8212; are worth a look, too. Remember, young people comprise an audience, but audiences are becoming the editors. Also, Jarvis&#39; reacts to a great Q &amp; A with Rob Curley on all things hyperlocal.     &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; &nbsp;|&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Hatters - Impartial and (mostly) Unbiased opinions on Medicine Hat &#187; The Future of newspapers</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-170415</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Hatters - Impartial and (mostly) Unbiased opinions on Medicine Hat &#187; The Future of newspapers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WhatÂ must newspapers do?: Experiment, innovate, focus on and engage the community. Clearly, newspapers need to embrace the Web, but it&#8217;s not just a matter ofÂ migrating stories from paper to the digital world. They need to encourage interaction with readers by soliciting comments about stories, providing links to external resources, launching blogs, podcasts and video blogs, and driving traffic between the newspaper and the Web site. There also needs to be more focus on the local community given national and international news is a commodity available in a wide variety of places. Fast Company, for example, has an excellentÂ profile on the Naples Daily News, which has become the poster-child for localÂ coverage with a Web site that offers news, including a daily video blogcast, and tools such as the ability to compareÂ house prices, and receive text alerts about the weather. (Hat tip to Jeff Jarvis) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WhatÂ must newspapers do?: Experiment, innovate, focus on and engage the community. Clearly, newspapers need to embrace the Web, but it&#8217;s not just a matter ofÂ migrating stories from paper to the digital world. They need to encourage interaction with readers by soliciting comments about stories, providing links to external resources, launching blogs, podcasts and video blogs, and driving traffic between the newspaper and the Web site. There also needs to be more focus on the local community given national and international news is a commodity available in a wide variety of places. Fast Company, for example, has an excellentÂ profile on the Naples Daily News, which has become the poster-child for localÂ coverage with a Web site that offers news, including a daily video blogcast, and tools such as the ability to compareÂ house prices, and receive text alerts about the weather. (Hat tip to Jeff Jarvis) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Crisp</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-169681</link>
		<dc:creator>David Crisp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Oct 2006 00:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Old Grouch said, more or less. The problem with hyperlocal is that it takes lots of time and space -- people may care what their kid's soccer team did, but they probably don't care what your kid's team did, so papers have to have enough space for both results. As ad revenues decline, spaces declines. As space declines, reporting staffs decline. You end up with a bunch of clerks chasing down soccer scores (and printing them in ever tinier print) that readers already are getting on myspace.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What Old Grouch said, more or less. The problem with hyperlocal is that it takes lots of time and space &#8212; people may care what their kid&#8217;s soccer team did, but they probably don&#8217;t care what your kid&#8217;s team did, so papers have to have enough space for both results. As ad revenues decline, spaces declines. As space declines, reporting staffs decline. You end up with a bunch of clerks chasing down soccer scores (and printing them in ever tinier print) that readers already are getting on myspace.com.</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Lerten</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-168004</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Lerten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hear hear, Old Grouch - my issue is the "either/or" mentality, "this is the newsroom of the future" with guys in no shoes stumbling around what sounds like a dorm room after hours.

Maybe I'm an old grouch (reporter of 30 years, in all mediums) too, but we darn well better look at ways to extend what we do, not shift toward the Craze of the Day, or we'll look like a 60-something groovy hipster in polyester trying pathetically to "get down with it."

Create a platform for hyper-local, neighborhood coverage? Sure, as long as it doesn't keep you from covering that boring ol' city council meeting. Because one without the other won't be a news-gathering enterprise any more, it'll be a diversion, not a key part of one's day.

Folks, we have to do BOTH - and while I love what Jeff says, I think the wave of "citizen journalism" can only go so far to truly inform. Ya gotta have folks who get paid to write and report well, get paid to write and report well. Believing that's "yesterday's form of news" (and yes, I do believe in "news as conversation") will just be a sad turn of events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear, Old Grouch - my issue is the &#8220;either/or&#8221; mentality, &#8220;this is the newsroom of the future&#8221; with guys in no shoes stumbling around what sounds like a dorm room after hours.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m an old grouch (reporter of 30 years, in all mediums) too, but we darn well better look at ways to extend what we do, not shift toward the Craze of the Day, or we&#8217;ll look like a 60-something groovy hipster in polyester trying pathetically to &#8220;get down with it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Create a platform for hyper-local, neighborhood coverage? Sure, as long as it doesn&#8217;t keep you from covering that boring ol&#8217; city council meeting. Because one without the other won&#8217;t be a news-gathering enterprise any more, it&#8217;ll be a diversion, not a key part of one&#8217;s day.</p>
<p>Folks, we have to do BOTH - and while I love what Jeff says, I think the wave of &#8220;citizen journalism&#8221; can only go so far to truly inform. Ya gotta have folks who get paid to write and report well, get paid to write and report well. Believing that&#8217;s &#8220;yesterday&#8217;s form of news&#8221; (and yes, I do believe in &#8220;news as conversation&#8221;) will just be a sad turn of events.</p>
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		<title>By: Old Grouch</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-167915</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Grouch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 17:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me if I don't get it, but how does one reconcile "become a local paper again" with cutting the newsroom staff by 20 percent?  Does "becoming local" mean running more paid obituaries, rewritten press releases, and reader-submitted pet pictures?  Or maybe the newsroom staff have been spending their time playing solitare on their terminals because the news hole is so shrunken that there's only room for &lt;a href="http://ruthholladay.com/index.php?blog=1&#38;title=the_death_star_1&#38;more=1&#38;c=1&#38;tb=1&#38;pb=1#c1762" rel="nofollow"&gt;25 local stories a week&lt;/a&gt;?

Newspapers have (had?) important advantages over bloggers and other amateurs in the changing-media battle:  Employees paid to make reporting a full-time job, and institutional memory.  Owners trying to rely on their readers to "tell them what's important" will fail, because (old cliche) "the public interest" isn't just "what the public is interested in."

I need my news sources to watch for and make me aware of the "unknown unknowns;" to tell me that the water utility is trying to sneak a $1200/house "new construction infrastructure impact fee" past the Public Service Commission.  If my newspaper fails at this, it's less useful to me.  If it drops the ball enough times, I won't bother reading it (or visiting its website), no matter how many kitten photos it runs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me if I don&#8217;t get it, but how does one reconcile &#8220;become a local paper again&#8221; with cutting the newsroom staff by 20 percent?  Does &#8220;becoming local&#8221; mean running more paid obituaries, rewritten press releases, and reader-submitted pet pictures?  Or maybe the newsroom staff have been spending their time playing solitare on their terminals because the news hole is so shrunken that there&#8217;s only room for <a href="http://ruthholladay.com/index.php?blog=1&amp;title=the_death_star_1&amp;more=1&amp;c=1&amp;tb=1&amp;pb=1#c1762" rel="nofollow">25 local stories a week</a>?</p>
<p>Newspapers have (had?) important advantages over bloggers and other amateurs in the changing-media battle:  Employees paid to make reporting a full-time job, and institutional memory.  Owners trying to rely on their readers to &#8220;tell them what&#8217;s important&#8221; will fail, because (old cliche) &#8220;the public interest&#8221; isn&#8217;t just &#8220;what the public is interested in.&#8221;</p>
<p>I need my news sources to watch for and make me aware of the &#8220;unknown unknowns;&#8221; to tell me that the water utility is trying to sneak a $1200/house &#8220;new construction infrastructure impact fee&#8221; past the Public Service Commission.  If my newspaper fails at this, it&#8217;s less useful to me.  If it drops the ball enough times, I won&#8217;t bother reading it (or visiting its website), no matter how many kitten photos it runs.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/20/curley-q-a/#comment-167143</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 01:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all the big media execs jumping on the hyperlocal bandwagon, I say, "Welcome aboard. Where you been for the past 11 years?"

But I wonder if they really undersant what hyperlocal means? Do they understand it the way Curley does?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the big media execs jumping on the hyperlocal bandwagon, I say, &#8220;Welcome aboard. Where you been for the past 11 years?&#8221;</p>
<p>But I wonder if they really undersant what hyperlocal means? Do they understand it the way Curley does?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Oct 2006 00:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Local, huh? What a wondeful idea for local newspapers to consider. What was the LA Times thinking that anyone in New York of Chicago or Boise ever thought that the LA Times had the mojo to cover Athens? It was the worst case of poor marketing and audience insight in the business (and all the while other LA papers were building their neighborhood business.) 

Jeff, as you know, its 80% local -- we shop, eat, think local. For local newspapers, its 100%. National is, well, loco.

As Marty Bartner, late publisher of the NJ Star-Ledger said... if you want a local audience, put pictures of people's kids palying sports in the paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Local, huh? What a wondeful idea for local newspapers to consider. What was the LA Times thinking that anyone in New York of Chicago or Boise ever thought that the LA Times had the mojo to cover Athens? It was the worst case of poor marketing and audience insight in the business (and all the while other LA papers were building their neighborhood business.) </p>
<p>Jeff, as you know, its 80% local &#8212; we shop, eat, think local. For local newspapers, its 100%. National is, well, loco.</p>
<p>As Marty Bartner, late publisher of the NJ Star-Ledger said&#8230; if you want a local audience, put pictures of people&#8217;s kids palying sports in the paper.</p>
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