Comments on: Bad news http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/ by Jeff Jarvis Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:19:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: De oude media zijn dood, leve de nieuwe MEdia - Frankwatching http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-232276 De oude media zijn dood, leve de nieuwe MEdia - Frankwatching Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:06:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-232276 [...] Een nieuw signaal komt uit de hoek van de dagbladuitgevers, uit de VS komt er nieuws over het in elkaar zakken van de advertentiemarkt voor kranten. Niet meer dan een voorbode van wat de traditionele tv-zenders nog te wachten staat. Ondertussen groeien de advertentieinkomsten van Google explosief en is het alleen nog wachten op de AdSense voor audio en video. [...] [...] Een nieuw signaal komt uit de hoek van de dagbladuitgevers, uit de VS komt er nieuws over het in elkaar zakken van de advertentiemarkt voor kranten. Niet meer dan een voorbode van wat de traditionele tv-zenders nog te wachten staat. Ondertussen groeien de advertentieinkomsten van Google explosief en is het alleen nog wachten op de AdSense voor audio en video. [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 Newspapers » Newspapers: Bad News Pile-Ups, Plus Hope Via Recommendations http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-174834 Web 2.0 Newspapers » Newspapers: Bad News Pile-Ups, Plus Hope Via Recommendations Fri, 27 Oct 2006 00:12:58 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-174834 [...] Mathew Ingram, who links to Buzzmachine's bad news post and indicates Editor and Publisher's article on continuously falling circulation in his own list of bad news for the newspaper biz from last week, links to another take on the Rob Curley article in Fast Company. Ingram summarizes the input from his friend and colleague Mark Evans this way: My friend and former National Post journalist Mark Evans has some of his own thoughts about how to reinvent the newspaper business, having spent the past couple of decades (give or take a few years) working for one. A few of his suggestions: experiment, focus on context rather than the quick hit, and hire younger staff who are willing to take more risks. Good advice. [...] [...] Mathew Ingram, who links to Buzzmachine's bad news post and indicates Editor and Publisher's article on continuously falling circulation in his own list of bad news for the newspaper biz from last week, links to another take on the Rob Curley article in Fast Company. Ingram summarizes the input from his friend and colleague Mark Evans this way: My friend and former National Post journalist Mark Evans has some of his own thoughts about how to reinvent the newspaper business, having spent the past couple of decades (give or take a few years) working for one. A few of his suggestions: experiment, focus on context rather than the quick hit, and hire younger staff who are willing to take more risks. Good advice. [...]

]]> By: MX Blog » De oude media zijn dood, leve de nieuwe MEdia http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-174390 MX Blog » De oude media zijn dood, leve de nieuwe MEdia Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:31:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-174390 [...] Een nieuw signaal komt uit de hoek van de dagbladuitgevers, uit de VS komt er nieuws over het in elkaar zakken van de advertentiemarkt voor kranten. Niet meer dan een voorbode van wat de traditionele tv-zenders nog te wachten staat. Ondertussen groeien de advertentieinkomsten van Google explosief en is het alleen nog wachten op de AdSense voor audio en video. [...] [...] Een nieuw signaal komt uit de hoek van de dagbladuitgevers, uit de VS komt er nieuws over het in elkaar zakken van de advertentiemarkt voor kranten. Niet meer dan een voorbode van wat de traditionele tv-zenders nog te wachten staat. Ondertussen groeien de advertentieinkomsten van Google explosief en is het alleen nog wachten op de AdSense voor audio en video. [...]

]]> By: slashpix http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-173508 slashpix Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:43:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-173508 Finally I've found out the source of all those articles about News 2, Media 2 and other New Newspaper generation. And I agree with all web 2.0 popularity and the need of establishment of new media and newspapers. Which would be submitted and rated by users, therefore only popular news would be on a the main page. There is a News 2 website (www.news2.ca), which has almost all concepts that were mentioned previously. Finally I’ve found out the source of all those articles about News 2, Media 2 and other New Newspaper generation.

And I agree with all web 2.0 popularity and the need of establishment of new media and newspapers. Which would be submitted and rated by users, therefore only popular news would be on a the main page. There is a News 2 website (www.news2.ca), which has almost all concepts that were mentioned previously.

]]> By: J.R.N. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-172355 J.R.N. Tue, 24 Oct 2006 20:21:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-172355 Newpapers need to change their mind-set about how they do buisness. A newspaper needs to be more than just a source information, it needs to be a bonding source for the community it serves. This means incorporating technology that brings companies and consumers together. At the NAA convention in Oklahoma this month there was a new solution called MyAdSource that could help with circulation and advertising. It is a partnership between several companies including: Matchbin.com, Arcasearch, Adify, and Fake Brains. They are geared toward helping gain back advertising that is lost to the internet and such sites as craiglist. There are some amazing products that they offer to help newpapers overcome this "gloom" everyone is feeling. One amazing product is the first statewide print classified search, which means people will actually see all the print ads when they search online. Also, they have this technology to create web communities that incorporate many features to submit ads for products and services. They may be the answer problems print newspapers are facing. The way papers are declining it is time to look at any solutions that can help. Newpapers need to change their mind-set about how they do buisness. A newspaper needs to be more than just a source information, it needs to be a bonding source for the community it serves. This means incorporating technology that brings companies and consumers together. At the NAA convention in Oklahoma this month there was a new solution called MyAdSource that could help with circulation and advertising. It is a partnership between several companies including: Matchbin.com, Arcasearch, Adify, and Fake Brains. They are geared toward helping gain back advertising that is lost to the internet and such sites as craiglist. There are some amazing products that they offer to help newpapers overcome this “gloom” everyone is feeling. One amazing product is the first statewide print classified search, which means people will actually see all the print ads when they search online. Also, they have this technology to create web communities that incorporate many features to submit ads for products and services. They may be the answer problems print newspapers are facing. The way papers are declining it is time to look at any solutions that can help.

]]> By: Safran Media Group: Digital Consulting » One week in media troubles http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-169900 Safran Media Group: Digital Consulting » One week in media troubles Mon, 23 Oct 2006 02:39:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-169900 [...] Jeff Jarvis summarizes all the cutbacks and bad news at big media companies - in just the past week. advertising, newspapers, television [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis summarizes all the cutbacks and bad news at big media companies – in just the past week. advertising, newspapers, television [...]

]]> By: everybuddy.org » Media is dead http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-169808 everybuddy.org » Media is dead Mon, 23 Oct 2006 01:35:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-169808 [...] Something has been bothering me since Adam Curry talked about media vs. technology on the Gillmor Gang. And I’m also left wondering why Jason Calacanis pumps up AdSense and yet gets labeled a “media guy”, or even calls himself such. I think it’s a dis-credit to himself. He’s much more than that. He’s an “Attention” guy. You see, media by it’s very nature can be disintermediated, and I don’t think any strategy that could fall prey to that is a good one. Is Google a media company. No. Media companies aggregate content makers and act as mediaries between the advertisers and the media consumers.(sorry to Doc, i don’t like the word consumer either) Google is doing more than that. They are an Attention clearing house. It’s what Jason might call an enabler, and it’s why the successful new companies we adore all seem to be doing just that. del.icio.us, grazr, edgio, top ten sourcesetc. Enabling an attention transaction to occur. Think eBay or Craigslist. OPML, not HTML. Tom Morris, not Morris, the cat. There is no enabling happening here, just intermediation. Jason’s latest venture is about enablement, so I think he’s on the right track. Paying people doesn’t change that, as long as a service is open. Attention enablers can’t be disintermediated. They can be replaced, but not disintermediated. I don’t come from the software industry. I much more relate to what Dave Winer calls a himself, a “media hacker”. And that’s what he calls Scoble too. It’s not really about technology. That is a means, not an end. Technology itself can be disintermediated or commodified. Soon, we will plug into technology like we do into electrical outlets. It’s happening now. So I say that the winning companies are not media companies or technology companies, but Attention companies. And if PodShow is a media company, it may succeed in the short run. But to last and grow, it will have to transform to an Attention company. So will Tribune, New York Times, Microsoft, Podosphere.com and the whole lot. Oct 22 2006 09:34 pm | RSS and gillmor and jarvis and newspapers and media and buzzmachine and winer and cluetrain and searls and stevegillmor and davewiner and jeffjarvis and OPML and microsoft and oldmediadoomsday and web2.0 and whathehellisallthisabout and Attention and scoble and blogging and del.icio.us and wordpress and grazr and myspace and arrington and mikearrington and gestures and gesturebank and tv and edgeio and sethgoldstein and tommorris and advertising and Halley Suitt and TopTenSources and calacanis and jasoncalacanis and adamcurry | [...] [...] Something has been bothering me since Adam Curry talked about media vs. technology on the Gillmor Gang. And I’m also left wondering why Jason Calacanis pumps up AdSense and yet gets labeled a “media guy”, or even calls himself such. I think it’s a dis-credit to himself. He’s much more than that. He’s an “Attention” guy. You see, media by it’s very nature can be disintermediated, and I don’t think any strategy that could fall prey to that is a good one. Is Google a media company. No. Media companies aggregate content makers and act as mediaries between the advertisers and the media consumers.(sorry to Doc, i don’t like the word consumer either) Google is doing more than that. They are an Attention clearing house. It’s what Jason might call an enabler, and it’s why the successful new companies we adore all seem to be doing just that. del.icio.us, grazr, edgio, top ten sourcesetc. Enabling an attention transaction to occur. Think eBay or Craigslist. OPML, not HTML. Tom Morris, not Morris, the cat. There is no enabling happening here, just intermediation. Jason’s latest venture is about enablement, so I think he’s on the right track. Paying people doesn’t change that, as long as a service is open. Attention enablers can’t be disintermediated. They can be replaced, but not disintermediated. I don’t come from the software industry. I much more relate to what Dave Winer calls a himself, a “media hacker”. And that’s what he calls Scoble too. It’s not really about technology. That is a means, not an end. Technology itself can be disintermediated or commodified. Soon, we will plug into technology like we do into electrical outlets. It’s happening now. So I say that the winning companies are not media companies or technology companies, but Attention companies. And if PodShow is a media company, it may succeed in the short run. But to last and grow, it will have to transform to an Attention company. So will Tribune, New York Times, Microsoft, Podosphere.com and the whole lot. Oct 22 2006 09:34 pm | RSS and gillmor and jarvis and newspapers and media and buzzmachine and winer and cluetrain and searls and stevegillmor and davewiner and jeffjarvis and OPML and microsoft and oldmediadoomsday and web2.0 and whathehellisallthisabout and Attention and scoble and blogging and del.icio.us and wordpress and grazr and myspace and arrington and mikearrington and gestures and gesturebank and tv and edgeio and sethgoldstein and tommorris and advertising and Halley Suitt and TopTenSources and calacanis and jasoncalacanis and adamcurry | [...]

]]> By: Howard Owens http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-169415 Howard Owens Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:44:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-169415 Isn't it interesting that all of the former KR papers McClatchy unloaded are struggling, some horribly so (such as Philly), yet boosted by its KR acquisition, McClatchy revenue is up significantly? Isn’t it interesting that all of the former KR papers McClatchy unloaded are struggling, some horribly so (such as Philly), yet boosted by its KR acquisition, McClatchy revenue is up significantly?

]]> By: mark evans http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-169385 mark evans Sun, 22 Oct 2006 20:20:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-169385 as a former journalist (as of last week) and a newspaper fan, it's troubling to see how the industry is struggling to get on the web bandwagon. as a "pubilc service", i a 5 "W"s post. cheers, mark as a former journalist (as of last week) and a newspaper fan, it’s troubling to see how the industry is struggling to get on the web bandwagon. as a “pubilc service”, i a 5 “W”s post.

cheers, mark

]]> By: mathewingram.com/media » A bad week for the newspaper biz http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/22/bad-news-2/#comment-169257 mathewingram.com/media » A bad week for the newspaper biz Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:03:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/?p=2129#comment-169257 [...] As Jeff Jarvis notes in a post on Buzzmachine, it has been a pretty bad week for newspapers — just part of what has been a pretty bad year or two for the paper-based media business. Among the bad omens: [...] [...] As Jeff Jarvis notes in a post on Buzzmachine, it has been a pretty bad week for newspapers — just part of what has been a pretty bad year or two for the paper-based media business. Among the bad omens: [...]

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