Comments on: Killing the crap to save the news http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/ by Jeff Jarvis Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:24:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Newspapers: Find your essence http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-203817 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Newspapers: Find your essence Sun, 19 Nov 2006 13:49:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-203817 [...] Here are a few posts where I’ve been pushing newspapers to boil themselves to their essence. But Lucas Grindley is right: This is about making shifts and investments now, before it’s too late. [...] [...] Here are a few posts where I’ve been pushing newspapers to boil themselves to their essence. But Lucas Grindley is right: This is about making shifts and investments now, before it’s too late. [...]

]]> By: Wordblog » Blog Archive » ‘Journopopulists’ for job cuts http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-180841 Wordblog » Blog Archive » ‘Journopopulists’ for job cuts Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:55:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-180841 [...] Jarvis had a different perspective writing under the heading Killing the crap to save the news about Kurtz”s comment: I think what he should lament is the refusal of newspaper editors to wake up and smell the latte: all the wasted froth that squanderes their budgets. [...] [...] Jarvis had a different perspective writing under the heading Killing the crap to save the news about Kurtz”s comment: I think what he should lament is the refusal of newspaper editors to wake up and smell the latte: all the wasted froth that squanderes their budgets. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Trimming newspaper fat v. meat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-180205 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Trimming newspaper fat v. meat Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:36:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-180205 [...] After Howard Kurtz issued what I characterized as the common, kneejerk newsroom response to threats of cutbacks — oh, woe is journalism; ah, what will become of investigative reporting? — many of us piled on to say that newsrooms are bloated and need cutting — or more to the point, need to cut the crap so they can focus on what matters. Kurtz responds , quoting Jack Shafer and me and saying: Not to spoil a good food fight, but I don’t disagree with any of that. Some newspapers are overstaffed. Not all budget cuts are bad. Not every newspaper in America needs to have a reporter covering the White House, or London, or attending political conventions and writing the same pap as everyone else. What’s more, lest they suffer the fate of General Motors by churning out gas-guzzlers, they need to move more boldly into the digital age, which probably requires smaller newsrooms than in the past as print circulations decline. [...] [...] After Howard Kurtz issued what I characterized as the common, kneejerk newsroom response to threats of cutbacks — oh, woe is journalism; ah, what will become of investigative reporting? — many of us piled on to say that newsrooms are bloated and need cutting — or more to the point, need to cut the crap so they can focus on what matters. Kurtz responds , quoting Jack Shafer and me and saying: Not to spoil a good food fight, but I don’t disagree with any of that. Some newspapers are overstaffed. Not all budget cuts are bad. Not every newspaper in America needs to have a reporter covering the White House, or London, or attending political conventions and writing the same pap as everyone else. What’s more, lest they suffer the fate of General Motors by churning out gas-guzzlers, they need to move more boldly into the digital age, which probably requires smaller newsrooms than in the past as print circulations decline. [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 Newspapers » Roundup Oct. 25: Responding to Job Cuts at Newspapers, Online News Updates, the ‘Rsstroom’ and More http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-173671 Web 2.0 Newspapers » Roundup Oct. 25: Responding to Job Cuts at Newspapers, Online News Updates, the ‘Rsstroom’ and More Wed, 25 Oct 2006 23:10:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-173671 [...] Buzzmachine: "Kurtz — and most of the newspaper industry — is getting it wrong. Kurtz laments cutbacks at newspapers, fearing it will cut investigative reporting. I think what he should lament is the refusal of newspaper editors to wake up and smell the latte: all the wasted froth that squanderes their budgets. The newspaper has to learn what its real value is and that is, indeed, reporting and its editors have to stop defending raw numbers of bodies." [...] [...] Buzzmachine: "Kurtz — and most of the newspaper industry — is getting it wrong. Kurtz laments cutbacks at newspapers, fearing it will cut investigative reporting. I think what he should lament is the refusal of newspaper editors to wake up and smell the latte: all the wasted froth that squanderes their budgets. The newspaper has to learn what its real value is and that is, indeed, reporting and its editors have to stop defending raw numbers of bodies." [...]

]]> By: Patrizia Broghammer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172980 Patrizia Broghammer Wed, 25 Oct 2006 06:51:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172980 "It is vital — for the survival of news(papers) that we have guts enough to rediscover our real value and essence and build from there." It is much simpler: just follow what the consumers want. In a fast changing society the communication means HAVE to change FAST. Or to die. "Everything must change in order to be always the same" Do newspaper want to attract customers as they used to? They have to understand that life has changed and so the consumers' needs. When TV appeared Hollywood slowly adapted to the new reality and came to people's home. Now the Internet has revolutioned the way people buy, entertain and inform themselves. So that stores, entertainments and information HAS to come to them or just loose them. This is the choice to do. And it won't be painless, because gone are also the big revenues. In a virtual world everything has got very cheap, because there is no paper, no printing, not even few almost monopolistic newspaper, and many which recooked the same news. There is a huge world which is slowly opening, which could mean huge revenues because of the number. Yes, in today's world what makes good revenues is the huge number. What about a newspaper on line for a 10 dollars yearly fee? Or even less. It looks very cheap, but it could be profitable. What about a newspaper made by many selected articles, to suit the tastes of the people. What about many niche markets? What about real news in real time? What about a newspaper which is international and in the same time has local news? What about the end of "the same size fits all?" This is the beautiful of the Internet and the virtual THING: everything is cheaply possible. And the one who will have the best ideas in the shortest time, HE will be the winner. No, the newspaper time is not over, it just began... “It is vital — for the survival of news(papers) that we have guts enough to rediscover our real value and essence and build from there.”

It is much simpler: just follow what the consumers want.
In a fast changing society the communication means HAVE to change FAST.
Or to die.
“Everything must change in order to be always the same”
Do newspaper want to attract customers as they used to?
They have to understand that life has changed and so the consumers’ needs.
When TV appeared Hollywood slowly adapted to the new reality and came to people’s home.
Now the Internet has revolutioned the way people buy, entertain and inform themselves.
So that stores, entertainments and information HAS to come to them or just loose them.
This is the choice to do.
And it won’t be painless, because gone are also the big revenues.
In a virtual world everything has got very cheap, because there is no paper, no printing, not even few almost monopolistic newspaper, and many which recooked the same news.
There is a huge world which is slowly opening, which could mean huge revenues because of the number.
Yes, in today’s world what makes good revenues is the huge number.
What about a newspaper on line for a 10 dollars yearly fee?
Or even less.
It looks very cheap, but it could be profitable.
What about a newspaper made by many selected articles, to suit the tastes of the people.
What about many niche markets?
What about real news in real time?
What about a newspaper which is international and in the same time has local news?
What about the end of “the same size fits all?”
This is the beautiful of the Internet and the virtual THING: everything is cheaply possible.
And the one who will have the best ideas in the shortest time, HE will be the winner.
No, the newspaper time is not over, it just began…

]]> By: mathewingram.com/media » Will cost cuts imperil journalism? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172834 mathewingram.com/media » Will cost cuts imperil journalism? Wed, 25 Oct 2006 03:18:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172834 [...] with del.icio.us   |   Email this entry   |   TrackBack URI   |   Digg it   |   Track with co.mments   |     |   Cosmos Click here forcopyright permissions! Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...] [...] with del.icio.us   |   Email this entry   |   TrackBack URI   |   Digg it   |   Track with co.mments   |     |   Cosmos Click here forcopyright permissions! Copyright 2006 Mathew Ingram [...]

]]> By: Dave Grace http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172643 Dave Grace Wed, 25 Oct 2006 00:32:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172643 I agree with you that there is a revolution on, and it's time we start to think positivley about it. Established news organizations are now having to deal with heavy competition from online sources, which is starting a processes of evolution in those newsrooms. I think its great that people are starting to think in fresh ways about news and making changes happen, the only way to keep anything alive, let alone the press, is to adapt as the environment changes. This is a great topic of discusion, thanks. I agree with you that there is a revolution on, and it’s time we start to think positivley about it. Established news organizations are now having to deal with heavy competition from online sources, which is starting a processes of evolution in those newsrooms. I think its great that people are starting to think in fresh ways about news and making changes happen, the only way to keep anything alive, let alone the press, is to adapt as the environment changes.
This is a great topic of discusion, thanks.

]]> By: Vulgorilla http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172559 Vulgorilla Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:32:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172559 What I want from a newspaper is just that ... the news. I want it reported as accurately as possible, and with nothing intentionally omitted, or fabricated, to support some internal political agenda or bias. I cancelled my newspaper subscription, as well as my news magazine subscriptions because I could not obtain what I just wrote I wanted above. I refuse to pay for propaganda, so the Internet is my sole source of news. Yes it takes a while to compile it from a number of different sources, but I get what I can't get from a newspaper/news magazine. Good luck! What I want from a newspaper is just that … the news. I want it reported as accurately as possible, and with nothing intentionally omitted, or fabricated, to support some internal political agenda or bias. I cancelled my newspaper subscription, as well as my news magazine subscriptions because I could not obtain what I just wrote I wanted above.

I refuse to pay for propaganda, so the Internet is my sole source of news. Yes it takes a while to compile it from a number of different sources, but I get what I can’t get from a newspaper/news magazine. Good luck!

]]> By: Juan Giner http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172431 Juan Giner Tue, 24 Oct 2006 21:02:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172431 Jeff, You will excuse my "flight-by-night, hole-in-the-wall, NY-taxi-driver-English", and please find here the corrected last paragraph of my quote: I am not worried about the people that leave (many of them with great early retirement packages) but about the people that stay in our newsrooms to work under the same conditions. If blogger needs something is first class and reliable spelling and grammar tools. Said that, mea culpa. Jeff,

You will excuse my “flight-by-night, hole-in-the-wall, NY-taxi-driver-English”, and please find here the corrected last paragraph of my quote:

I am not worried about the people that leave (many of them with great early retirement packages) but about the people that stay in our newsrooms to work under the same conditions.

If blogger needs something is first class and reliable spelling and grammar tools.

Said that, mea culpa.

]]> By: Raise bar for newspaper design investments : Small Initiatives - Sensible Internet Design http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172261 Raise bar for newspaper design investments : Small Initiatives - Sensible Internet Design Tue, 24 Oct 2006 19:23:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/10/24/killing-the-crap-to-save-the-news/#comment-172261 [...] As I read through the whistle-stops in yet another depressing conversation about newspapers cutting back, I'm reminded of where I like to go to see some of the most creative work coming out of all those "dinosaur" newsrooms. [...] [...] As I read through the whistle-stops in yet another depressing conversation about newspapers cutting back, I’m reminded of where I like to go to see some of the most creative work coming out of all those “dinosaur” newsrooms. [...]

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