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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Television &#187; Roundup Oct. 27: Orlando Talkback, Plymouth Headcams, &#8216;Reach Out Online&#8217;:WaPost&#8217;s Brady, Plus The L.A.Times&#8217; &#8216;Manhattan Project&#8217;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Television &#187; Roundup Oct. 27: Orlando Talkback, Plymouth Headcams, &#8216;Reach Out Online&#8217;:WaPost&#8217;s Brady, Plus The L.A.Times&#8217; &#8216;Manhattan Project&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 17:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, if Jeff Jarvis wants suggestions for the fascinating ongoing &quot;parlour game&quot; he calls &#8220;What would you do with ____ [fill in media organization here]?&#8221;&#8211; in this case let&#039;s say the much-reported and woeful L.A. Times &#8212; well, Rory Safran at Editors Weblog seems to have an answer. From the section on improving the Web site: In addition to enriching its commitment to Los Angeles, the L.A. Times must improve its website and make this L.A.-centric information a worldwide commodity.&#160; As the international authority on one of the world&#8217;s most relevant cities, LATimes.com needs to be the West Coast equivalent of washingtonpost.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, if Jeff Jarvis wants suggestions for the fascinating ongoing &quot;parlour game&quot; he calls &ldquo;What would you do with ____ [fill in media organization here]?&rdquo;&#8211; in this case let&#39;s say the much-reported and woeful L.A. Times &#8212; well, Rory Safran at Editors Weblog seems to have an answer. From the section on improving the Web site: In addition to enriching its commitment to Los Angeles, the L.A. Times must improve its website and make this L.A.-centric information a worldwide commodity.&nbsp; As the international authority on one of the world&rsquo;s most relevant cities, LATimes.com needs to be the West Coast equivalent of washingtonpost.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: medienlese &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Google eilt Zeitungen zu Hilfe</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-187352</link>
		<dc:creator>medienlese &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Google eilt Zeitungen zu Hilfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Nov 2006 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Aber zum &#220;berlegen bleibt der Papierpresse wohl keine Zeit mehr. Journalismus-Uberblogger Jeff Jarvis hat in seiner inoffiziellen Umfrage  nur noch drei Ratschl&#228;ge an Verlage f&#252;r den Umgang mit Zeitungen zu h&#246;ren gekriegt: Schnellstm&#246;glich verkaufen/umbauen/verschenken.    Drucken del.icio.us digg! Trackback URL [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Aber zum &#220;berlegen bleibt der Papierpresse wohl keine Zeit mehr. Journalismus-Uberblogger Jeff Jarvis hat in seiner inoffiziellen Umfrage  nur noch drei Ratschl&#228;ge an Verlage f&#252;r den Umgang mit Zeitungen zu h&#246;ren gekriegt: Schnellstm&#246;glich verkaufen/umbauen/verschenken.    Drucken del.icio.us digg! Trackback URL [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trimming newspaper fat v. meat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-180243</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Trimming newspaper fat v. meat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] After Howard Kurtz issued what I characterized as the common, kneejerk newsroom response to threats of cutbacks &#8212; oh, woe is journalism; ah, what will become of investigative reporting? &#8212; many of us piled on to say that newsrooms are bloated and need cutting &#8212; or more to the point, need to cut the crap so they can focus on what matters. Kurtz responds , quoting Jack Shafer and me and saying: Not to spoil a good food fight, but I don&#8217;t disagree with any of that. Some newspapers are overstaffed. Not all budget cuts are bad. Not every newspaper in America needs to have a reporter covering the White House, or London, or attending political conventions and writing the same pap as everyone else. What&#8217;s more, lest they suffer the fate of General Motors by churning out gas-guzzlers, they need to move more boldly into the digital age, which probably requires smaller newsrooms than in the past as print circulations decline. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] After Howard Kurtz issued what I characterized as the common, kneejerk newsroom response to threats of cutbacks &#8212; oh, woe is journalism; ah, what will become of investigative reporting? &#8212; many of us piled on to say that newsrooms are bloated and need cutting &#8212; or more to the point, need to cut the crap so they can focus on what matters. Kurtz responds , quoting Jack Shafer and me and saying: Not to spoil a good food fight, but I don&#8217;t disagree with any of that. Some newspapers are overstaffed. Not all budget cuts are bad. Not every newspaper in America needs to have a reporter covering the White House, or London, or attending political conventions and writing the same pap as everyone else. What&#8217;s more, lest they suffer the fate of General Motors by churning out gas-guzzlers, they need to move more boldly into the digital age, which probably requires smaller newsrooms than in the past as print circulations decline. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger News Network &#187; The End of the World as The Newspapers Know It</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-179504</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger News Network &#187; The End of the World as The Newspapers Know It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eh, at least the major dailies are not as far behind the curve as the weekly news magazines. Talk about old news; by the time one reads the latest in Time and Newsweek, the events whereof they write are a week to ten days old. Thatâ€™s almost ancient history, to someone used to getting internet news. Blogger Jeff Jarvis had this recent advice for newspaper publishers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eh, at least the major dailies are not as far behind the curve as the weekly news magazines. Talk about old news; by the time one reads the latest in Time and Newsweek, the events whereof they write are a week to ten days old. Thatâ€™s almost ancient history, to someone used to getting internet news. Blogger Jeff Jarvis had this recent advice for newspaper publishers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-177705</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not worthwhile to try to keep history from repeating itself, for man&#039;s character will always make the preventing of the repetitions impossible.
- Mark Twain in Eruption

During the years 1870 to 1900, daily newspapers quadrupled in number from 489 to 1,967.  Circulation (aggregated) rose from 2.6 million to 15 million copies.  Weeklies grew from approximately 4,000 to 12,000 in number, mostly in rural areas.
The US population doubled during that period.  The enormous growth of publications signaled something else going on: as Arthur Schlesinger, Sr. called it &quot;the rise of the city&quot;.  And that condition was accelerated principally due to mechanization, industrialism and a greatly expanded communications network that included:
Widespread use of electricity fueling industry and light bulbs (helps in the convenience to read).
Invention of the telephone by Bell (reached one phone per 100 households by 1900) and intercity lines covered the country.
Western Union quadrupled its telegraph lines between 1880 and 1900.
Railroads expanded its miles of track from 93,000 to 193,000 miles.
And probably most important for publications, the federal postal service&#039;s expansion of services combined with the Postal Act of 1885 (provided a 1-cent-a-pound rate for newspapers and magazines) paved the way for low-cost delivery of publications.
Introduction of the typewriter and adding machine facilitated the faster pace needed to handle the complexity of correspondence and record keeping.
The socio-economic life of the US greatly changed and thus brought incredible growth and opportunity for journalism, which was seized by the publishing world.
As an example, Pulitzer&#039;s New York enterprise (NY World in the mid-1890&#039;s) showed a $10 million valuation and $1 million net profit.  Translated into 2005 dollars as a percent of GDP, that&#039;s $8.2 billion and considering that the World was just operating in the NY market, it makes Google look like retail shoe store.  As the winds of change would have it, even from that lofty perch the World was defunct by the 1930&#039;s.
Newspaper and magazine share of market for ad dollars decreased by nearly 36% (from 1935 to 1980) after the introduction of radio and television.  The fact that newspapers remained strong profit centers reflected the rapid growth in advertising expenditures that outstripped their loss of market share.
Newspapers have been profit harvesting for the past thirty years.  That practice is over and the plight of the Inquirer and Daily News is emblematic of that.
Socio-economic change similar in scope to the latter part of the 19th century is upon us again.  Print publishing is, after all, a manufacturing enterprise and prospered during the industrial evolution as a result.  Anyone foolish enough to buy a newspaper today with the notion that the profit harvesting will continue or that you can tweak the product to meet the socio-economic challenges of this period will suffer great disappointment.
The market share for printed products in their current form will diminish greatly over the next decade.  Again, technology merely facilitates and influences the socio-economic trends and is not the cause.  Newspapers have lost touch with their readers and failed to represent the context of a complex society within which news reporting must operate.  Journalists can restore it insofar as they relinquish their bias for the format and embrace the call of society for context and meaning and deliver it in the ways available to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not worthwhile to try to keep history from repeating itself, for man&#8217;s character will always make the preventing of the repetitions impossible.<br />
- Mark Twain in Eruption</p>
<p>During the years 1870 to 1900, daily newspapers quadrupled in number from 489 to 1,967.  Circulation (aggregated) rose from 2.6 million to 15 million copies.  Weeklies grew from approximately 4,000 to 12,000 in number, mostly in rural areas.<br />
The US population doubled during that period.  The enormous growth of publications signaled something else going on: as Arthur Schlesinger, Sr. called it &#8220;the rise of the city&#8221;.  And that condition was accelerated principally due to mechanization, industrialism and a greatly expanded communications network that included:<br />
Widespread use of electricity fueling industry and light bulbs (helps in the convenience to read).<br />
Invention of the telephone by Bell (reached one phone per 100 households by 1900) and intercity lines covered the country.<br />
Western Union quadrupled its telegraph lines between 1880 and 1900.<br />
Railroads expanded its miles of track from 93,000 to 193,000 miles.<br />
And probably most important for publications, the federal postal service&#8217;s expansion of services combined with the Postal Act of 1885 (provided a 1-cent-a-pound rate for newspapers and magazines) paved the way for low-cost delivery of publications.<br />
Introduction of the typewriter and adding machine facilitated the faster pace needed to handle the complexity of correspondence and record keeping.<br />
The socio-economic life of the US greatly changed and thus brought incredible growth and opportunity for journalism, which was seized by the publishing world.<br />
As an example, Pulitzer&#8217;s New York enterprise (NY World in the mid-1890&#8217;s) showed a $10 million valuation and $1 million net profit.  Translated into 2005 dollars as a percent of GDP, that&#8217;s $8.2 billion and considering that the World was just operating in the NY market, it makes Google look like retail shoe store.  As the winds of change would have it, even from that lofty perch the World was defunct by the 1930&#8217;s.<br />
Newspaper and magazine share of market for ad dollars decreased by nearly 36% (from 1935 to 1980) after the introduction of radio and television.  The fact that newspapers remained strong profit centers reflected the rapid growth in advertising expenditures that outstripped their loss of market share.<br />
Newspapers have been profit harvesting for the past thirty years.  That practice is over and the plight of the Inquirer and Daily News is emblematic of that.<br />
Socio-economic change similar in scope to the latter part of the 19th century is upon us again.  Print publishing is, after all, a manufacturing enterprise and prospered during the industrial evolution as a result.  Anyone foolish enough to buy a newspaper today with the notion that the profit harvesting will continue or that you can tweak the product to meet the socio-economic challenges of this period will suffer great disappointment.<br />
The market share for printed products in their current form will diminish greatly over the next decade.  Again, technology merely facilitates and influences the socio-economic trends and is not the cause.  Newspapers have lost touch with their readers and failed to represent the context of a complex society within which news reporting must operate.  Journalists can restore it insofar as they relinquish their bias for the format and embrace the call of society for context and meaning and deliver it in the ways available to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Roundup Oct. 27: Orlando Talkback, Plymouth Headcams, &#8216;Reach Out Online&#8217;:WaPost&#8217;s Brady, Plus The L.A.Times&#8217; &#8216;Manhattan Project&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-175622</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 Newspapers &#187; Roundup Oct. 27: Orlando Talkback, Plymouth Headcams, &#8216;Reach Out Online&#8217;:WaPost&#8217;s Brady, Plus The L.A.Times&#8217; &#8216;Manhattan Project&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Finally, if Jeff Jarvis wants suggestions for the fascinating ongoing &quot;parlour game&quot; he calls &#8220;What would you do with ____ [fill in media organization here]?&#8221;&#8211; in this case let&#039;s say the much-reported and woeful L.A. Times &#8212; well, Rory Safran at Editors Weblog seems to have an answer. From the section on improving the Web site: In addition to enriching its commitment to Los Angeles, the L.A. Times must improve its website and make this L.A.-centric information a worldwide commodity.&#160; As the international authority on one of the world&#8217;s most relevant cities, LATimes.com needs to be the West Coast equivalent of washingtonpost.com. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Finally, if Jeff Jarvis wants suggestions for the fascinating ongoing &quot;parlour game&quot; he calls &ldquo;What would you do with ____ [fill in media organization here]?&rdquo;&#8211; in this case let&#39;s say the much-reported and woeful L.A. Times &#8212; well, Rory Safran at Editors Weblog seems to have an answer. From the section on improving the Web site: In addition to enriching its commitment to Los Angeles, the L.A. Times must improve its website and make this L.A.-centric information a worldwide commodity.&nbsp; As the international authority on one of the world&rsquo;s most relevant cities, LATimes.com needs to be the West Coast equivalent of washingtonpost.com. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: everybuddy.org &#187; Advertising is dead</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-175466</link>
		<dc:creator>everybuddy.org &#187; Advertising is dead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] From the BuzzMachine comments, in response to Hugh Macleod, I say: Once you realize you can be disintermediated, it becomes clear that the old advertising model doesnâ€™t work as well as it used to, so you find you must provide and extract value in another way. Oct 27 2006 11:18 am &#124; gillmor and newspapers and media and buzzmachine and cluetrain and advertising and hughmacleod &#124; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From the BuzzMachine comments, in response to Hugh Macleod, I say: Once you realize you can be disintermediated, it becomes clear that the old advertising model doesnâ€™t work as well as it used to, so you find you must provide and extract value in another way. Oct 27 2006 11:18 am | gillmor and newspapers and media and buzzmachine and cluetrain and advertising and hughmacleod | [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Terenzio</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-175461</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Terenzio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hugh,

Since paid circulation is just a small percentage of a newspaper&#039;s revenue, I&#039;d say it&#039;s more than &quot;defending a paid model&quot; that is causing the ship to sink.
It&#039;s more about defending a controlled distribution model, when it&#039;s obvious that distribution of information is now free for anyone to pursue, like yourself.

Once you realize you can be disintermediated, it becomes clear that the old advertising model doesn&#039;t work as well as it used to, so you find you must provide and extract value in another way.

Which is what you do. You leverage your relationships in order both give and get value.

So advertising now looks a lot more like a gesture exchange than an interruption.

Just ask our friend Steve. ; )

P.S. The only way newspapers will win is to move from the big advertising one to many relationship, to the small attention one to one relationship.
They don&#039;t need to turn the ship, they need a fleet of smaller boats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hugh,</p>
<p>Since paid circulation is just a small percentage of a newspaper&#8217;s revenue, I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s more than &#8220;defending a paid model&#8221; that is causing the ship to sink.<br />
It&#8217;s more about defending a controlled distribution model, when it&#8217;s obvious that distribution of information is now free for anyone to pursue, like yourself.</p>
<p>Once you realize you can be disintermediated, it becomes clear that the old advertising model doesn&#8217;t work as well as it used to, so you find you must provide and extract value in another way.</p>
<p>Which is what you do. You leverage your relationships in order both give and get value.</p>
<p>So advertising now looks a lot more like a gesture exchange than an interruption.</p>
<p>Just ask our friend Steve. ; )</p>
<p>P.S. The only way newspapers will win is to move from the big advertising one to many relationship, to the small attention one to one relationship.<br />
They don&#8217;t need to turn the ship, they need a fleet of smaller boats.</p>
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		<title>By: hugh macleod</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-175207</link>
		<dc:creator>hugh macleod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only time I read the printed paper is when I am riding the subway [The Tube], when I&#039;m in in London every two weeks or so.

Usually I get The Times, even if I do prefer The Guardian, becasue the Time&#039;s tabloid format is far more commuter-friendly than the Guardian&#039;s &quot;French&quot; format. These things matter.

More and more I&#039;m just picking up the free papers- Metro etc- than paying money for The Times. I can get rich, informed news and commentary online.... more and more I realise the point of reading a newspaper on the train is just to make the journey less unpleasant.

As someone who makes a good of his living via the distribution of free content, I have no sympathy for people who are having their life sucked out of them from defending their paid models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only time I read the printed paper is when I am riding the subway [The Tube], when I&#8217;m in in London every two weeks or so.</p>
<p>Usually I get The Times, even if I do prefer The Guardian, becasue the Time&#8217;s tabloid format is far more commuter-friendly than the Guardian&#8217;s &#8220;French&#8221; format. These things matter.</p>
<p>More and more I&#8217;m just picking up the free papers- Metro etc- than paying money for The Times. I can get rich, informed news and commentary online&#8230;. more and more I realise the point of reading a newspaper on the train is just to make the journey less unpleasant.</p>
<p>As someone who makes a good of his living via the distribution of free content, I have no sympathy for people who are having their life sucked out of them from defending their paid models.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/26/sell/#comment-174406</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Iâ€™ll bet no one will have the balls to do it&lt;/i&gt;

What Associated Newspapers have done in London isn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;quite&lt;/i&gt; what you describe, but one might argue that launching a free paper (Metro) in a city where you operate the only paid for title (Evening Standard), then launching a free version of that paid-for title (Standard Lite), then turning that free version into a stand-alone free paper (London Lite) is pretty close in terms of cajones...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Iâ€™ll bet no one will have the balls to do it</i></p>
<p>What Associated Newspapers have done in London isn&#8217;t <i>quite</i> what you describe, but one might argue that launching a free paper (Metro) in a city where you operate the only paid for title (Evening Standard), then launching a free version of that paid-for title (Standard Lite), then turning that free version into a stand-alone free paper (London Lite) is pretty close in terms of cajones&#8230;</p>
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