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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Are Private Conversations History?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-456045</link>
		<dc:creator>Are Private Conversations History?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the weekend, several bloggers, in light of a posting from Digitas&#8217; Greg Verdino, asked why the recent Nielsen BuzzMetrics client-only &quot;CGM Summit&quot; wasn&#8217;t open to public [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the weekend, several bloggers, in light of a posting from Digitas&rsquo; Greg Verdino, asked why the recent Nielsen BuzzMetrics client-only &quot;CGM Summit&quot; wasn&#8217;t open to public [...]</p>
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		<title>By: dini videolar</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-444030</link>
		<dc:creator>dini videolar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much!like your site and your comments. Comment too perfect. I recommend your site to buddylist. wep here to enjoy the site as a quote to write reviews of your site. I hope to publish an excerpt with your signature that does not mind. thank you admin 25-2-2011_3_7_59</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much!like your site and your comments. Comment too perfect. I recommend your site to buddylist. wep here to enjoy the site as a quote to write reviews of your site. I hope to publish an excerpt with your signature that does not mind. thank you admin 25-2-2011_3_7_59</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-180948</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2006 02:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verdino&#039;s a bright guy.  The conversation needed to be had and I&#039;m proud of him for having the stones to initiate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Verdino&#8217;s a bright guy.  The conversation needed to be had and I&#8217;m proud of him for having the stones to initiate it.</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Consumer generated argument</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-180241</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Consumer generated argument</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 12:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] href=&#8221;http://gregverdino.typepad.com/greg_verdinos_blog/2006/10/social_media_fi.html&#8221;&gt;won&#8217;t allow blogging. Can Nielsen perhaps measure the high irony and low IQ in that? [via Rubel] Some followup on the kerfuffle about Nielsen closing a conference about &#8220;consumer generated media&#8221; to blogging: See a very reasonable suggestion from Greg Verdino, whose post started all this. This was what I&#8217;d hoped we&#8217;d hear from the Nielsen folks, instead of back-up-against-the-wall argument. But as a CGM Summit attendee, I still believe that there was plenty of non-proprietary content that could be shared by bloggers without adversely impacting BuzzMetrics, its clients or other event participants. And it is possible to balance on-the-record and off &#8212; it didn&#8217;t have to be all or nothing. . . . [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] href=&#8221;http://gregverdino.typepad.com/greg_verdinos_blog/2006/10/social_media_fi.html&#8221;&gt;won&#8217;t allow blogging. Can Nielsen perhaps measure the high irony and low IQ in that? [via Rubel] Some followup on the kerfuffle about Nielsen closing a conference about &#8220;consumer generated media&#8221; to blogging: See a very reasonable suggestion from Greg Verdino, whose post started all this. This was what I&#8217;d hoped we&#8217;d hear from the Nielsen folks, instead of back-up-against-the-wall argument. But as a CGM Summit attendee, I still believe that there was plenty of non-proprietary content that could be shared by bloggers without adversely impacting BuzzMetrics, its clients or other event participants. And it is possible to balance on-the-record and off &#8212; it didn&#8217;t have to be all or nothing. . . . [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 100+ vs. the world - Nielsen BuzzMetrics &#171; Kempton&#8217;s blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-179879</link>
		<dc:creator>100+ vs. the world - Nielsen BuzzMetrics &#171; Kempton&#8217;s blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 06:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The mindless NBC/Global new show 1 vs. 100 is a fun show to watch. Whereas it is plainly sad to watch the controversy created by Nielsen BuzzMetrics&#8216; decision to ban the &#8220;consumer generated media&#8221; conference attendees from blogging. As an unintended consequence, Nielsen has successfully created its show entitled &#8220;100+ vs. the world of bloggers&#8221;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The mindless NBC/Global new show 1 vs. 100 is a fun show to watch. Whereas it is plainly sad to watch the controversy created by Nielsen BuzzMetrics&#8216; decision to ban the &#8220;consumer generated media&#8221; conference attendees from blogging. As an unintended consequence, Nielsen has successfully created its show entitled &#8220;100+ vs. the world of bloggers&#8221;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Dowdell</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-179683</link>
		<dc:creator>John Dowdell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2006 01:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see the person you&#039;re writing about has provided motivating info already.... ;-)

Just because a conference is about user-generated content, doesn&#039;t mean that the conference needs to be public info itself. Most books about baking aren&#039;t printed on dough, for instance.

Jeff, I think you were led by the nose to outrage here. We need to question the authority of *whatever* media figures tell us, whether corporate or casual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see the person you&#8217;re writing about has provided motivating info already&#8230;. <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just because a conference is about user-generated content, doesn&#8217;t mean that the conference needs to be public info itself. Most books about baking aren&#8217;t printed on dough, for instance.</p>
<p>Jeff, I think you were led by the nose to outrage here. We need to question the authority of *whatever* media figures tell us, whether corporate or casual.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Chapel</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-177916</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Chapel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And who do they think they are charging for the conference?  Actually we should do away with money!!  And property... how outmoded is that?

Jeff,

Teasing you, of course.  

- Amanda

PS  As I see it, you&#039;ve got boundary issues.  Also, &quot;control&quot; seems to haunt you.  I am guessing you had an overbearing mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who do they think they are charging for the conference?  Actually we should do away with money!!  And property&#8230; how outmoded is that?</p>
<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Teasing you, of course.  </p>
<p>- Amanda</p>
<p>PS  As I see it, you&#8217;ve got boundary issues.  Also, &#8220;control&#8221; seems to haunt you.  I am guessing you had an overbearing mother.</p>
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		<title>By: Can I Please Blog Your Private Meeting? &#187; Publishing 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-177614</link>
		<dc:creator>Can I Please Blog Your Private Meeting? &#187; Publishing 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Sanctimonious-sphere is all up in arms because Nielsen BuzzMetrics asked attendees of their CGM summit this week not to blog. I attended the summit, and I respected their request not to blog &#8212; and I think the request was perfectly reasonable. Why? Because it wasn&#8217;t an open &#8220;conference&#8221; &#8212; it was a private client user group for heaven sake! Every day thousands of companies hold private meetings with groups of their clients and nobody expects them to broadcast a live feed. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Sanctimonious-sphere is all up in arms because Nielsen BuzzMetrics asked attendees of their CGM summit this week not to blog. I attended the summit, and I respected their request not to blog &#8212; and I think the request was perfectly reasonable. Why? Because it wasn&#8217;t an open &#8220;conference&#8221; &#8212; it was a private client user group for heaven sake! Every day thousands of companies hold private meetings with groups of their clients and nobody expects them to broadcast a live feed. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Carson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-177429</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Carson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 15:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://nielsenbuzzmetrics.com/mouthpiece/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I posted a detailed comment&lt;/a&gt; about this on my own blog, and invite you to check it out.  In summary: this particular event was primarily our customers sharing their case studies with one another, and that level of openness from the clients required an &quot;off the record&quot; forum. 

We do appreciate the feedback (here and your thoughtful comment on Hurst&#039;s blog) and are actively working to find the right approach for all our events and activities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, </p>
<p><a href="http://nielsenbuzzmetrics.com/mouthpiece/index.html" rel="nofollow">I posted a detailed comment</a> about this on my own blog, and invite you to check it out.  In summary: this particular event was primarily our customers sharing their case studies with one another, and that level of openness from the clients required an &#8220;off the record&#8221; forum. </p>
<p>We do appreciate the feedback (here and your thoughtful comment on Hurst&#8217;s blog) and are actively working to find the right approach for all our events and activities.</p>
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		<title>By: aycon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-176868</link>
		<dc:creator>aycon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2006 00:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s easier to collect from a couple of big nuts than a million little ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s easier to collect from a couple of big nuts than a million little ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Alka</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/10/28/numbnuts/#comment-176754</link>
		<dc:creator>Alka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Can Nielsen perhaps measure the high irony and low IQ in that?&quot; Measuring THAT will be a tough and unsavory! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can Nielsen perhaps measure the high irony and low IQ in that?&#8221; Measuring THAT will be a tough and unsavory! <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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