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Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2006-11-29 — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:19:39 +0000

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By: Criticise Me at twopointouch: web 2.0, blogs and social media

Criticise Me at twopointouch: web 2.0, blogs and social media — Sun, 19 Nov 2006 14:06:59 +0000

[...] Earlier this month, Jeff Jarvis noted that Guardian Online has taken similar steps with its arts and entertainment coverage, throwing its columnists into a conversation with other critics - the former audience. Filed under: opinions, social news, newspapers | Tags: blogs, journalism, newspapers. [...]

By: Kevin Anderson

Kevin Anderson — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 11:30:32 +0000

Lism, yeah, sorry about not having those RSS feeds ready at launch. They’re working now. Movable Type wasn’t doing the several of the million and one things that we were asking it to do at launch, including making lots of the content, not to mention the RSS feeds, invisible. Stealth technology is not really useful for a website.

We’ve got the feeds back up now. Sorry for the delay. Hopefully, they’ll find a place in your feeds.

(Full disclosure: I’m the Guardian’s Blogs editor.)

By: Esther

Esther — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 12:06:55 +0000

I have to second Dave Hinton’s comment. It may be because the topics I am interested in are so controversial anyway– (iran, islam, other religions, middle east…)– but I find the comments on CiF so disheartening and so extreme (I had a whole list, but disheartening and extreme seem to sum the list up just fine) that I have lost respect for the Guardian as a whole. There is no conversation in the comments on the posts I read, just vitriol and sloganeering. What is the solution? How can real debate and argument be fostered? That is the real question.

The whole thing makes me long for a letters section instead. Could it be that the Guardian should consider actual moderation?

By: Steve Busfield

Steve Busfield — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 14:45:41 +0000

Dave Hinton,
You are right that the writers should engage in conversation with the commenters. Some do, and I certainly encourage my team to do so.
(Full disclosure: I am editor of MediaGuardian.co.uk)

By: Patrizia Broghammer

Patrizia Broghammer — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:22:04 +0000

I find your blog very interesting, and this is just the reflection of what I think.
The Internet taught us a big lesson, taught us that it was possible to substitute the monologue of the written paper into a dialogue, a discussion, an exchange of ideas, that also a piece of virtual paper could speak.
The Internet became the landscape of the mind, the worldwide living room.
And the new actors of this new world MUST adapt to it.
“I suggested that instead of concentrating on the bad guys, they concentrate on the good guys ” the bad guys are the ones who transform a conversation in animated discussion and there is where most people come in.
News get more “personal”, because people comment them:
many tongues, many eyes, one big discussion…I love that

By: Dave Hinton

Dave Hinton — Fri, 03 Nov 2006 11:25:04 +0000

The Guardian have been presenting their sports columns (and other columns when that post happens to refer to sport) in a CiF format for a while. It doesn’t work for the same reasons CiF doesn’t work — most of the comments are dross and there’s no way I can hide them from my view, and most columnists don’t respond to comments in the comments.

By: lism.

lism. — Thu, 02 Nov 2006 23:01:24 +0000

If only the RSS feed would work, since I have no intention of refreshing the site every half hour when I’m at work.