Comments on: The dark cloud inside the silver lining of the dark cloud http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:06:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Modernize the Law to Mirror Culture « Copyrightings http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-243743 Modernize the Law to Mirror Culture « Copyrightings Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:36:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-243743 [...] Out With the Old… Traditional forms of media are suffering – newspapers cannot hold an audience, YouTube holds more sway than the networks and the masses are acting faster and faster. [...] [...] Out With the Old… Traditional forms of media are suffering – newspapers cannot hold an audience, YouTube holds more sway than the networks and the masses are acting faster and faster. [...]

]]> By: The dark cloud inside the silver lining of the dark cloud :: Newstack http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-227386 The dark cloud inside the silver lining of the dark cloud :: Newstack Thu, 07 Dec 2006 10:39:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-227386 [...] Read more: here [...] [...] Read more: here [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 Television » More Web2.0Newspaper Links Than Anyone Could Ever Want http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-188325 Web 2.0 Television » More Web2.0Newspaper Links Than Anyone Could Ever Want Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:17:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-188325 [...] Mathew Ingram and Jeff Jarvis's points about the circulation decline agree that for most newspapers, a print redesign won't change much. Ingram: "most of the newspapers … have continued to slide." Jarvis (who plays a little bait-and-switch game with duelling columnists): "… redesigns are no cure for what ails papers. … The lipstick ain’t doing it." Cool charts, dudes. [...] [...] Mathew Ingram and Jeff Jarvis's points about the circulation decline agree that for most newspapers, a print redesign won't change much. Ingram: "most of the newspapers … have continued to slide." Jarvis (who plays a little bait-and-switch game with duelling columnists): "… redesigns are no cure for what ails papers. … The lipstick ain’t doing it." Cool charts, dudes. [...]

]]> By: Sheila Taylor http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-187463 Sheila Taylor Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:15:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-187463 The NY Times as well as many other papers are not giving us the news but their own ideology as Patricia stated above. It is so slanted to the left that even the good news (i.e. about the economy), the heading is something like "mixed reports on the country's economy"--really?...when the economy is stronger than it has been since Clinton's admministration, lowest unemployment, best stock market scenerio, etc. Why won't the NY TImes admit that the President was right (cutting taxes, etc.)?...AND this is the economy despite 9/11, the hurricanes, and the war on terror! I don't have much respect for any media who does not tell it like it is and never gives President Bush credit no matter what. They will find the dark cloud in any of this administration's silver lining. 'Even if he "saved the world," they would find fault!' is how I put it. Bottom line--newspaper sales are dropping because most newspapers and especially the NY Times are spinning the news to suit their agenda that is radical left! Wake up and smell the coffee, NY Times! The NY Times as well as many other papers are not giving us the news but their own ideology as Patricia stated above. It is so slanted to the left that even the good news (i.e. about the economy), the heading is something like “mixed reports on the country’s economy”–really?…when the economy is stronger than it has been since Clinton’s admministration, lowest unemployment, best stock market scenerio, etc. Why won’t the NY TImes admit that the President was right (cutting taxes, etc.)?…AND this is the economy despite 9/11, the hurricanes, and the war on terror! I don’t have much respect for any media who does not tell it like it is and never gives President Bush credit no matter what. They will find the dark cloud in any of this administration’s silver lining. ‘Even if he “saved the world,” they would find fault!’ is how I put it. Bottom line–newspaper sales are dropping because most newspapers and especially the NY Times are spinning the news to suit their agenda that is radical left! Wake up and smell the coffee, NY Times!

]]> By: Lost Remote TV Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-187078 Lost Remote TV Blog Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:23:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-187078 [...] Newspaper redesigns are a huge waste of time and money. It’s now about getting your information out there via the web. (And website overdesign is a waste, too. Simplicity and ease of distribution rule.) Newsdesigner.com graphs the fortunes of 10 newspapers that have redesigned within the past two years. The result? Circulation down across the board. I feel the same way about the expensive TV news set redesigns. Does anyone decide to change to another newscast when they see some new shiny fake balcony? (Via Jarvis) [...] [...] Newspaper redesigns are a huge waste of time and money. It’s now about getting your information out there via the web. (And website overdesign is a waste, too. Simplicity and ease of distribution rule.) Newsdesigner.com graphs the fortunes of 10 newspapers that have redesigned within the past two years. The result? Circulation down across the board. I feel the same way about the expensive TV news set redesigns. Does anyone decide to change to another newscast when they see some new shiny fake balcony? (Via Jarvis) [...]

]]> By: mathewingram.com/media » Maybe redesigning isn’t the solution http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-186230 mathewingram.com/media » Maybe redesigning isn’t the solution Sun, 05 Nov 2006 22:54:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-186230 [...] With the exception of some of the British papers that switched to a smaller “Berliner” format (which is kind of a tabloid but slightly larger) from a broadsheet, most of the newspapers Mark looked at have continued to slide. In the comments, more than one person says that this is because newspapers are cutting back on unprofitable low-quality circulation such as penny-per-copy stuff, which a New York Times story also gave as the explanation. But even if you exclude the under-50 per cent stuff, circulation is still declining, as Jeff Jarvis notes here. [...] [...] With the exception of some of the British papers that switched to a smaller “Berliner” format (which is kind of a tabloid but slightly larger) from a broadsheet, most of the newspapers Mark looked at have continued to slide. In the comments, more than one person says that this is because newspapers are cutting back on unprofitable low-quality circulation such as penny-per-copy stuff, which a New York Times story also gave as the explanation. But even if you exclude the under-50 per cent stuff, circulation is still declining, as Jeff Jarvis notes here. [...]

]]> By: chuck http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185869 chuck Sun, 05 Nov 2006 18:47:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185869 <i>The New York Times tries to find some good news in the newspaper industry’s dreadful circulation report...</i> Isn't declining circulation good news? I really don't see how you can spin this otherwise. The New York Times tries to find some good news in the newspaper industry’s dreadful circulation report…

Isn’t declining circulation good news? I really don’t see how you can spin this otherwise.

]]> By: Patricia http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185192 Patricia Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:24:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185192 I noted, happily, in the report that our local paper, which reprints articles from the NYT and AP to fuel its open borders, liberal, anti-war, anti-Bush indoctrination, especially now, to swing votes before this upcoming election, has lost as much circulation as the NYT. I guess they want to go down with the mothership. I noted, happily, in the report that our local paper, which reprints articles from the NYT and AP to fuel its open borders, liberal, anti-war, anti-Bush indoctrination, especially now, to swing votes before this upcoming election, has lost as much circulation as the NYT. I guess they want to go down with the mothership.

]]> By: Rick McCharles » Blog Archive » waiting on the last obit - newspapers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185019 Rick McCharles » Blog Archive » waiting on the last obit - newspapers Sun, 05 Nov 2006 03:51:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-185019 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The dark cloud inside the silver lining of the dark cloud [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The dark cloud inside the silver lining of the dark cloud [...]

]]> By: Mumblix Grumph http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184788 Mumblix Grumph Sat, 04 Nov 2006 23:44:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184788 Good news, readers! We're saving paper! Good news, readers!

We’re saving paper!

]]> By: J.J. @ slugged http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184622 J.J. @ slugged Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:57:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184622 Re-design for the sake of re-design doesn't work. When we re-designed our paper, we made the A section all local, and made the former "Region" section into a Nation & World wire cover with exploded AP graphics instead of stories, analysis instead of "first day two days later" and speed-reads of other stories. When we made the change, our circulation starting going up: Subscribers, single-copy and Web (we have a paid site ... I know, I know). There is still much more that we can do, but any change we make is to make us stronger on the stuff we do best (local). Re-design for the sake of re-design doesn’t work.

When we re-designed our paper, we made the A section all local, and made the former “Region” section into a Nation & World wire cover with exploded AP graphics instead of stories, analysis instead of “first day two days later” and speed-reads of other stories.

When we made the change, our circulation starting going up: Subscribers, single-copy and Web (we have a paid site … I know, I know).

There is still much more that we can do, but any change we make is to make us stronger on the stuff we do best (local).

]]> By: Media Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184483 Media Blog Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:00:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/04/the-dark-cloud-inside-the-silver-lining-of-the-dark-cloud/#comment-184483 I did <a href="http://www.howardowens.com/2006/circ-slips-and-online-gains/" rel="nofollow">a post earlier</a> challenging Rick's article. You can't simply take the past-30-day number and divide by 30. Site usage isn't that smoothly distributed. Hidden within that number is some percentage of loyal audience who visits habitually. That said, the loyal audience number for any single newspaper.com is dreadfully low, so Rick is half right. I did a post earlier challenging Rick’s article. You can’t simply take the past-30-day number and divide by 30. Site usage isn’t that smoothly distributed. Hidden within that number is some percentage of loyal audience who visits habitually.

That said, the loyal audience number for any single newspaper.com is dreadfully low, so Rick is half right.

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