Comments on: Bye-bye now

By: rich Kapl

rich Kapl — Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:42:56 +0000

Lot of mean-spirited people on this blog, which I am going to rename “No Tears.” Sure, one needs to try and capture an audience in all ways possible, but why suck up to corporations. Rutten said it so forcefully in the very pages of the Times: In this country, our press rises and falls depending on how it can hack a profit for its owners. That surely can’t be the best way to ensure a powerful inclusive press that reaches a broad audince. That same corporate press accepted a massive fall in readers since the 1950s, as long as it retained the majroity of advertsing revenues.

By: Radio Upheaval « Lines from Lee

Radio Upheaval « Lines from Lee — Fri, 17 Nov 2006 18:24:29 +0000

[...] Jeff Jarvis and others have suggested that for “old” media to stay relevant, they need to, among other things, get “hyperlocal.” That goes against the Clear Channel model of buying up large numbers of stations, putting them on the same basic format, and automating as much as possible to cut costs. If debt leads to more automation and homogeneity, this will continue the decline of radio. But if getting stations in different hands leads some owners to experiment more with returning the local voice to radio, it may be the start of something good. [...]

By: Wordblog » Blog Archive » Dangers of isolationism in US papers’ cuts

Fri, 10 Nov 2006 08:55:02 +0000

[...] Yelvington was picking up on a post by Jeff Jarvis which was supportive of the Daily Express in the UK which is outsourcing City coverage to the Press Association. Commenting on Baquet’s departure, Jarvis had written that he “should have been investing in networked journalism to take the paper hyperlocal and in online and audio and video to take the paper past paper.” [...]

By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The stewardship of journalism’s future

Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:56:31 +0000

[...] The LA Times and the Philadelphia Inquirer get rid of their editors but bring in more editors like them. No offense to any of these editors, fine journalists, all, I’m sure. But if you want to change, don’t you want to bring in new people to do new things? That’s what Mark Potts wonders. That’s what I shrieked about here. [...]

By: Frank

Frank — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:51:15 +0000

How about free color Peter Max spreads in the Sunday Edition? It worked for the Daily News in the 60’s…

By: Right Angles » Blog Archive » Advice to dying newspapers: Herald-Sun, are you listening?

Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:14:25 +0000

[...] Media blogger Jeff Jarvis gives some advice to dying newspapers. And speaking of dying newspapers, The Herald-Sun, which, under Paxton rule, has abandoned the internet except for the most perfunctory presence while its print circulation plummets, should listen up: LA Times Editor Dean Baquet has been forced out. Well, Iâ€™m crying no tears. Someone in the news business pushed me yesterday with the idea that Baquet was doing Godâ€™s work and I went ballistic. Quite the contrary, I said, rather than pushing to preserve the past, he should have been pushing his bosses to be investing in the future. He should have been investing in networked journalism to take the paper hyperlocal and in online and audio and video to take the paper past paper. He should have made his own cuts in the old newsroom to pay for those investments. He should have had a vision and strategy for the future. Whining at corporate is no damned strategy at all. Dean Baquet was dangerous for journalism because he was defending the past rather than fighting for the future. Bye-bye now. [...]

By: Lou Phelps

Lou Phelps — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 15:06:01 +0000

The old guard of our newsrooms is what is wrong with the newspaper industry at many papers. I had to remove an editor last May who did not get it — was not adapting to the fact that we should be publishing 24/7/365 when we’ve got the story ready…and that we also just happen to put out a print product each morning, or every week if your newspaper is a weekly community newspaper or regional business journal. That has to be the mindset of the entire org. What is exciting is that so many news(papers) DO get it and are pushing their quality local journalism on the web every day, in new ways to attract readers. Google, et al, can never replace or match our local knowledge. The web is the best thing that has happened to the newspaper industry because we can publish more often, at less cost, and build our local brand dominance.

By: Neil Sanderson / LA Times editor quits on principle

Neil Sanderson / LA Times editor quits on principle — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:00:23 +0000

[...] But blogger Jeff Jarvis is “crying no tears“, accusing Baquet of failing to have a vision of a networked, online, multimedia, hyperlocal future. And of failing to make cuts in “the old newsroom” in order to invest in areas of future growth. [...]

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:53:12 +0000

I work in the newspaper business and give this post a standing O. The reaction (Editor and Publisher represented it as “Anger across the industry”) to this departure is stunning in its reactionary blindness to the challenges the news industry faces.

So many are acting like the president has been shot or something. They’re mourning a man whose bold idea for the future was to assign a team of — yes this is true — investigative reporters to research what would bring readers back!

Gosh, anybody wanna bet their report would have said more long-form coverage of institutions and the developing world is just what the doctor ordered?

That’s it! Let’s ask REPORTERS! Because they’re so open-minded and accept that change is good! Whatever.

If editors follow his model and refuse to change, and continue the push for Pulitzers as opposed to a push for information in a multitude of forms from a multitude of sources on a multitude of subjects, then their news organizations are doomed.

There is a small core of people in the industry who struggle for necessary change. Unfortunately, they’re losing the war that’s currently going on in the newsroom between baby boomers focused on their Luddite proclivities and retirement and those of us who love this business and want to do what it will take to make it survive.

Wish us luck.

By: Grayson

Grayson — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 20:40:36 +0000

Ooops. And there goes Philly. And Akron. Starting to look like the Bush Admin out there in newspaper land.

By: Grayson

Grayson — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:40:40 +0000

Well, I feel for the dude. Kinda sorta. Now he’ll be forced to shut-up and blog just like the rest of us.

By: daveinboca

daveinboca — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:31:44 +0000

“Dean Baquet was dangerous for journalism because he was defending the past rather than fighting for the future. ”

The LAT is hemorrhaging circulation, has no coverage of Orange County or its own metro area worthy of the name, and poses as a highbrow version of the SF Chronicle or a Left Coast NYT. Baquet was an empty suit plumping for Pulitzers when he should have been growing the business.

By: Hugh MacLeod

Hugh MacLeod — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 11:30:52 +0000

Jeff, I drew a cartoon about this VERY SAME subject:

http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/003292.html

Keep fighting the good fight, Jeffers!

By: Wordblog » Blog Archive » Who would want to be a print editor today?

Wordblog » Blog Archive » Who would want to be a print editor today? — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:46:13 +0000

[...] I am with Jeff Jarvis at Buzzmachine when he says of Baquet: “Rather than pushing to preserve the past, he should have been pushing his bosses to be investing in the future.” [...]

By: Tawcan

Tawcan — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:40:46 +0000

The election results are pretty interesting. Looks like it’s going to be a fun 2 years ahead for Bush.

By: Franky

Franky — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:22:25 +0000

Democrats are winning.
So, Jeff, bye-bye now. You come back, you hear?

By: Juan Giner

Juan Giner — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 05:10:35 +0000

Jeff, Amen.

By: Andrew Wood

Andrew Wood — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 04:48:26 +0000

What business indeed?

The problem is that editors, especially US editors, somehow believe they are not involved in business. They need to get real, or at least get an MBA.

By: JD

JD — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:02:08 +0000

Indeed — what business in its right mind suffers a significant fall-off in customers and yet has the same number of factory workers. Baquet had the perfect scapegoat (”those damn beancounters at corporate”) to institute the major changes that Jeff recommends without having to justify the underlying reasons why, but he decided instead to tweak the nose of his boss and ride out in a blaze of bullshit. Now if Pinch would consider this strategy to reform the other Times…