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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-354522</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got off the phone with Dell.  About two hours of confusion.  A few years ago, my retired mom decided that she would buy my family a couple of computers from Dell with her good credit.  Enter headaches.  The PC sits with a blue screen under a desk no longer used and the notebook is currently lost in another state after Dell shipped it to the wrong address after its 4th major repair since it was purchased.

I am currently waiting for a return phone call from the shipping company to tell me if Dell has faxed them an approval letter to ship my notebook to the correct address - the same address they picked it up from!  I was supposed to have this machine days ago, but now am being told it might be a few more days!

I could go on and on about all the continued nightmare with Dell over the last few years, climaxing with them lying to me on the phone today, but I just don't have the energy at the moment.

I am just wishing that my mom wasn't still paying for junk computers, or that Dell would make things right.  

But they never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got off the phone with Dell.  About two hours of confusion.  A few years ago, my retired mom decided that she would buy my family a couple of computers from Dell with her good credit.  Enter headaches.  The PC sits with a blue screen under a desk no longer used and the notebook is currently lost in another state after Dell shipped it to the wrong address after its 4th major repair since it was purchased.</p>
<p>I am currently waiting for a return phone call from the shipping company to tell me if Dell has faxed them an approval letter to ship my notebook to the correct address - the same address they picked it up from!  I was supposed to have this machine days ago, but now am being told it might be a few more days!</p>
<p>I could go on and on about all the continued nightmare with Dell over the last few years, climaxing with them lying to me on the phone today, but I just don&#8217;t have the energy at the moment.</p>
<p>I am just wishing that my mom wasn&#8217;t still paying for junk computers, or that Dell would make things right.  </p>
<p>But they never will.</p>
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		<title>By: George Girton</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-205731</link>
		<dc:creator>George Girton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm sure this blog posting is not viral marketing for the forthcoming DELL INC blogs, because...

1. Jeff's mom taught him not to lie
2. Jeff wonders why the Dell announcement is so important, and then writes a lot about it.
3. Comments in his blog, written by other people I don't know, say he has criticised Dell in the past
4. he looks forward to linking to Michael Dell when the Dell corporate blogs DO appear.
5. Jeff heard the Dell corporate line in the press conference call, but he asked some tough questions.
6. He followed up on those questions by digging up some more facts on the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure this blog posting is not viral marketing for the forthcoming DELL INC blogs, because&#8230;</p>
<p>1. Jeff&#8217;s mom taught him not to lie<br />
2. Jeff wonders why the Dell announcement is so important, and then writes a lot about it.<br />
3. Comments in his blog, written by other people I don&#8217;t know, say he has criticised Dell in the past<br />
4. he looks forward to linking to Michael Dell when the Dell corporate blogs DO appear.<br />
5. Jeff heard the Dell corporate line in the press conference call, but he asked some tough questions.<br />
6. He followed up on those questions by digging up some more facts on the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Technews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; an electronic dialogue with dell</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-197482</link>
		<dc:creator>Technews &#187; Blog Archive &#187; an electronic dialogue with dell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Original post by Jeff Jarvis and software by Elliott Back [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lionel Menchaca</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-196011</link>
		<dc:creator>Lionel Menchaca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 16:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff:

In a lot of ways, youâ€™re rightâ€”the basics are pretty easy in theory. Be transparent. Tell the truth. Discuss negative topics in a meaningful way. Admit your mistakes, and learn from them publicly. For companies of any size, some of these things donâ€™t come naturally. In practice, it becomes even more difficult when thereâ€™s a legion of folks ready to dissect and potentially criticize every word.

Are these new standards a change for the better? Yes, they are. Is it a good thing for consumers that more companies and their employees want to proceed down this path? Of course.  If we want more of our employees to enter more conversations, we want them to do it the right way.  Because some of those basics donâ€™t come naturally, an education process has to take place. These guidelines serve as part of that process.

Sincerely,

Lionel Menchaca
Digital Media Manager, Direct2Dell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff:</p>
<p>In a lot of ways, youâ€™re rightâ€”the basics are pretty easy in theory. Be transparent. Tell the truth. Discuss negative topics in a meaningful way. Admit your mistakes, and learn from them publicly. For companies of any size, some of these things donâ€™t come naturally. In practice, it becomes even more difficult when thereâ€™s a legion of folks ready to dissect and potentially criticize every word.</p>
<p>Are these new standards a change for the better? Yes, they are. Is it a good thing for consumers that more companies and their employees want to proceed down this path? Of course.  If we want more of our employees to enter more conversations, we want them to do it the right way.  Because some of those basics donâ€™t come naturally, an education process has to take place. These guidelines serve as part of that process.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Lionel Menchaca<br />
Digital Media Manager, Direct2Dell</p>
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		<title>By: Anna Haynes</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-193545</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Haynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; &lt;i&gt;executives would not acknowledge that past or any lessons in any way. &lt;/i&gt;

How did that make you feel?  Did it increase or decrease your faith in their "we'll be ethical now" message?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; <i>executives would not acknowledge that past or any lessons in any way. </i></p>
<p>How did that make you feel?  Did it increase or decrease your faith in their &#8220;we&#8217;ll be ethical now&#8221; message?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-193347</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 20:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this Off Topic?  Wouldn't it be nice if the US Government did abide by the Sarbanesâ€“Oxley Act of 2002 and wrote a well intentioned "Code of Ethics" for it's employees, contractors and associates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this Off Topic?  Wouldn&#8217;t it be nice if the US Government did abide by the Sarbanesâ€“Oxley Act of 2002 and wrote a well intentioned &#8220;Code of Ethics&#8221; for it&#8217;s employees, contractors and associates?</p>
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		<title>By: sports fan</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-192398</link>
		<dc:creator>sports fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 03:09:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never had good dealings with Dell on any level from my desktop to my laptop and more. I guess what I am saying is I don't buy it and it's not new news. Great article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never had good dealings with Dell on any level from my desktop to my laptop and more. I guess what I am saying is I don&#8217;t buy it and it&#8217;s not new news. Great article!</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-190728</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 21:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgive my cynicism, but I wonder how loudly Jeff yells "tell the truth" at the NYT when he is taking their consulting fees?

It's one thing to "lie" about a laptop, but quite another to lie about everything else under the sun.

Oops.  I forgot the NYT lies about solar warming as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgive my cynicism, but I wonder how loudly Jeff yells &#8220;tell the truth&#8221; at the NYT when he is taking their consulting fees?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s one thing to &#8220;lie&#8221; about a laptop, but quite another to lie about everything else under the sun.</p>
<p>Oops.  I forgot the NYT lies about solar warming as well.</p>
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		<title>By: The Jeff Beckham Weblog &#187; Dell Establishes External Blog Policy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-190702</link>
		<dc:creator>The Jeff Beckham Weblog &#187; Dell Establishes External Blog Policy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis, who has been a vocal critic of Dell, listened in to the conference call and wondered what the big deal was. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis, who has been a vocal critic of Dell, listened in to the conference call and wondered what the big deal was. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Basic Thinking Blog &#187; Dell fÃ¼hrt Blog-Policy an: wie spreche ich Blogger an?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-190698</link>
		<dc:creator>Basic Thinking Blog &#187; Dell fÃ¼hrt Blog-Policy an: wie spreche ich Blogger an?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Nun kommentiert Jeff Jarvis, medienweit wie ein bunter Hund bekannt durch die DELL-Hell Story (wochenlang DELL auf seinem Blog fertiggemacht, weil sein Notebook nicht 100% funktionierte und der Support sich nicht sonderlich geschickt angestellt hatte) ganz gen&#252;sslich: I sensed that the reporters on the call found it as curious as I did that Dell thinks this is new and worthy of a big announcement. Isnâ€™t it always a companyâ€™s policy, in any interaction â€” by blog, telephone, or letter â€” to be open and honest? They try to argue that blogs are new and they need to teach employees how to be ethical in their interaction with them. Said the leader of WOMMA: â€œWeâ€™re making it easy to be ethical.â€ I think my mother made that easy when she told me not to lie. And she didnâ€™t belong to any Association of Ethical Moms. In fact, I think itâ€™s possibly dangerous to put up this elaborate construct of policies and guidelines and toolkits and announcements. The message to employees should be as simple as this: Tell the truth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Nun kommentiert Jeff Jarvis, medienweit wie ein bunter Hund bekannt durch die DELL-Hell Story (wochenlang DELL auf seinem Blog fertiggemacht, weil sein Notebook nicht 100% funktionierte und der Support sich nicht sonderlich geschickt angestellt hatte) ganz gen&#252;sslich: I sensed that the reporters on the call found it as curious as I did that Dell thinks this is new and worthy of a big announcement. Isnâ€™t it always a companyâ€™s policy, in any interaction â€” by blog, telephone, or letter â€” to be open and honest? They try to argue that blogs are new and they need to teach employees how to be ethical in their interaction with them. Said the leader of WOMMA: â€œWeâ€™re making it easy to be ethical.â€ I think my mother made that easy when she told me not to lie. And she didnâ€™t belong to any Association of Ethical Moms. In fact, I think itâ€™s possibly dangerous to put up this elaborate construct of policies and guidelines and toolkits and announcements. The message to employees should be as simple as this: Tell the truth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Krempasky Strikes Out for Wal-Mart</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-190656</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Krempasky Strikes Out for Wal-Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pretty simple. He also suggests to forget about guidelines and policies and just Tell the truth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pretty simple. He also suggests to forget about guidelines and policies and just Tell the truth. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Krempasky Strikes Out for Wal-Mart</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/09/an-electronic-dialogue-with-dell/#comment-190657</link>
		<dc:creator>The Writing On The Wal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Krempasky Strikes Out for Wal-Mart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pretty simple. He also suggests to forget about guidelines and policies and just Tell the truth. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pretty simple. He also suggests to forget about guidelines and policies and just Tell the truth. [...]</p>
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