Comments on: The condescending interactivity of network news http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: David Coltrane Jr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-209843 David Coltrane Jr Fri, 24 Nov 2006 04:08:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-209843 Great piece. Video looks good, I won't echo the sound comments. I have little hope for corporate news shows, however. They won't change until viewers either demand real news (something besides "Its the day after Thanksgiving and the stores are crowded!" Sadly, most TV junkies have forgotten how to think for themselves; to question what they are being fed. Corporate America is working hard, in sophisticated ways, to maintain that status quo. Great piece. Video looks good, I won’t echo the sound comments.

I have little hope for corporate news shows, however. They won’t change until viewers either demand real news (something besides “Its the day after Thanksgiving and the stores are crowded!” Sadly, most TV junkies have forgotten how to think for themselves; to question what they are being fed.

Corporate America is working hard, in sophisticated ways, to maintain that status quo.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » My video education http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-205111 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » My video education Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:00:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-205111 [...] I bought a lighting kit for my house (obnoxious but true) and it greatly improved the image in the video I put up yesterday (versus this rushed job in Daylife’s offices, in front of a very red wall). But if there’s more I should be doing, please tell me. [...] [...] I bought a lighting kit for my house (obnoxious but true) and it greatly improved the image in the video I put up yesterday (versus this rushed job in Daylife’s offices, in front of a very red wall). But if there’s more I should be doing, please tell me. [...]

]]> By: A Note to Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine « Lines from Lee http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204755 A Note to Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine « Lines from Lee Mon, 20 Nov 2006 05:00:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204755 [...] I tried to leave a comment on this excellent post from Jeff Jarvis on Buzz Machine. For some reason I got an error message the first time I posted, and then got a duplicate comment warning when I tried again. [...] [...] I tried to leave a comment on this excellent post from Jeff Jarvis on Buzz Machine. For some reason I got an error message the first time I posted, and then got a duplicate comment warning when I tried again. [...]

]]> By: williamP http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204688 williamP Mon, 20 Nov 2006 04:02:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204688 Great to hear you're going to fix this. Unfortunately, I have no specific mic tip for you, as I'm not doing this myself right now. No doubt your upcoming post will yield abundant good advice. I'd suggest taking advantage of your media acquaintances to get a little help augmenting your home media setup. Maybe pick up a cheap umbrella/bounce light gizmo at B&H. A modest boost in production value should be a real "force multiplier" in citizens' media. It's not rocket science -- and not expensive -- to look and sound pretty much like the big guys. And one more differentiator goes away... For the moment, the main thing is you don't want to sound worse than lonelygirl15 ;-) Great to hear you’re going to fix this. Unfortunately, I have no specific mic tip for you, as I’m not doing this myself right now. No doubt your upcoming post will yield abundant good advice.

I’d suggest taking advantage of your media acquaintances to get a little help augmenting your home media setup. Maybe pick up a cheap umbrella/bounce light gizmo at B&H.

A modest boost in production value should be a real “force multiplier” in citizens’ media. It’s not rocket science — and not expensive — to look and sound pretty much like the big guys. And one more differentiator goes away…

For the moment, the main thing is you don’t want to sound worse than lonelygirl15 ;-)

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204594 Jeff Jarvis Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:08:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204594 william: what kind? what specs? i'll ask for a bunch more advice on all this in a post tomorrow. thanks william:
what kind? what specs? i’ll ask for a bunch more advice on all this in a post tomorrow.
thanks

]]> By: williamP http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204589 williamP Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:04:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204589 Jeff- Get a lapel mic -- please! Bad audio does not have to be part of this revolution. Jeff-

Get a lapel mic — please!

Bad audio does not have to be part of this revolution.

]]> By: Richard Bennett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204586 Richard Bennett Mon, 20 Nov 2006 03:00:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204586 Nice bookcases - are they singles or doubles? Nice bookcases – are they singles or doubles?

]]> By: Michael Rosenblum http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204476 Michael Rosenblum Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:56:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204476 I think there's a TV show in this. DId you ever see 'Tarant on TV' on the BBC? I think there’s a TV show in this. DId you ever see ‘Tarant on TV’ on the BBC?

]]> By: Josh http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204473 Josh Mon, 20 Nov 2006 01:53:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204473 I just want to hear you spit the word "fools" at them. Other than that, pretty excellent. I'd love for you to do some commentary like this on British TV. I just want to hear you spit the word “fools” at them.
Other than that, pretty excellent. I’d love for you to do some commentary like this on British TV.

]]> By: Mike Hudack http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204269 Mike Hudack Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:15:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204269 Great stuff, Jeff! Thanks very much for using blip.tv, by the way. I hope you enjoyed the experience. Please drop me a line at mike@blip.tv if there's anything at all we can do to make using blip.tv a better experience for you. Yours, Mike CEO, blip.tv Great stuff, Jeff!

Thanks very much for using blip.tv, by the way. I hope you enjoyed the experience. Please drop me a line at mike@blip.tv if there’s anything at all we can do to make using blip.tv a better experience for you.

Yours,

Mike
CEO, blip.tv

]]> By: Andi http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204211 Andi Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:18:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204211 This Williams fellow looks familiar from somewhere, didn't he have a daytime game show once? This Williams fellow looks familiar from somewhere, didn’t he have a daytime game show once?

]]> By: Terry Heaton http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204136 Terry Heaton Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:41:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204136 Great stuff, Jeff. Your sarcasm comes through even better than when you write. :) Great stuff, Jeff. Your sarcasm comes through even better than when you write. :)

]]> By: Mitch http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204114 Mitch Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:18:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204114 Jeff, Looking great. You're almost there with the audio. Go get some foam and put it on the walls or on pieces of cardboard you can place around the room. You deaden that echo and your pieces are gonna look "network" like. Keep up the good work. Jeff,

Looking great. You’re almost there with the audio. Go get some foam and put it on the walls or on pieces of cardboard you can place around the room. You deaden that echo and your pieces are gonna look “network” like.

Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Robert Feinman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204100 Robert Feinman Sun, 19 Nov 2006 20:00:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204100 Jeff: I think you misunderstand the purpose of network news. It's purpose is to show that 'all's right with the world' (in general) and that the US is the greatest place on earth. The bad things that happen are just minor glitches and shouldn't inspire people to desire change. This is what made the Katrina reports of Williams and Carlson so jarring. For once defenders of the status quo saw for themselves that the national myths were not true. Does anyone really expect that a program on a channel owned by a major corporation would deal honestly with the fundamental distortions in our present plutocratic system? Enron and Abu Ghraib were examples of bad pennies, not of systemic corporate or military problems. The purpose of corporate media is to make money, yes, but more important it is to support the stories that keep people from thinking about changing the status quo. A dialog is the last thing these people want. And opening the airwaves or the "blog waves" to the public without an editorial filter unimaginable. Notice that neither the BBC nor the Guardian are part of conventional corporate institutions. One is funded by a tax and the other by a foundation. So far we have seen very few corporate funded blogs, but that may change if they become profitable. Even dailyKos censors certain topics (like 9/11 conspiracy nuts). As the man said many years ago - you get to say what you want when you own the printing press. Jeff:
I think you misunderstand the purpose of network news. It’s purpose is to show that ‘all’s right with the world’ (in general) and that the US is the greatest place on earth. The bad things that happen are just minor glitches and shouldn’t inspire people to desire change.

This is what made the Katrina reports of Williams and Carlson so jarring. For once defenders of the status quo saw for themselves that the national myths were not true. Does anyone really expect that a program on a channel owned by a major corporation would deal honestly with the fundamental distortions in our present plutocratic system? Enron and Abu Ghraib were examples of bad pennies, not of systemic corporate or military problems. The purpose of corporate media is to make money, yes, but more important it is to support the stories that keep people from thinking about changing the status quo.

A dialog is the last thing these people want. And opening the airwaves or the “blog waves” to the public without an editorial filter unimaginable. Notice that neither the BBC nor the Guardian are part of conventional corporate institutions. One is funded by a tax and the other by a foundation.

So far we have seen very few corporate funded blogs, but that may change if they become profitable. Even dailyKos censors certain topics (like 9/11 conspiracy nuts). As the man said many years ago – you get to say what you want when you own the printing press.

]]> By: Ms. B http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204083 Ms. B Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:40:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204083 Agreed; no hugging. But how to show appreciation for this clever riposte? In the hallowed journo tradition, shall sip away this gray Sunday to honor Prof. Jarvis pulling a Culkin. BTW, much better lighting this go-around. We'll make a glamour-puss of you yet. Agreed; no hugging. But how to show appreciation for this clever riposte? In the hallowed journo tradition, shall sip away this gray Sunday to honor Prof. Jarvis pulling a Culkin.

BTW, much better lighting this go-around. We’ll make a glamour-puss of you yet.

]]> By: Mumblix Grumph http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204074 Mumblix Grumph Sun, 19 Nov 2006 19:37:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/19/the-condescending-interactivity-of-network-news/#comment-204074 Jeff...great piece, but you still need to work on your audio. More volume, less echo. Brian Williams' audio was easy to understand while yours was too quiet and mushy. By the way. It is nearly impossible to grab a good looking frame of video to use for a still picture. Maybe try posing like you would for a photograph and use that. Notice how I toss out criticism while never having produced anything longer than a 5 sentence blog comment post and having a chance in hell of the commentator ever seeing it. You can't do that with Dinosaur media! Jeff…great piece, but you still need to work on your audio.

More volume, less echo.

Brian Williams’ audio was easy to understand while yours was too quiet and mushy.

By the way. It is nearly impossible to grab a good looking frame of video to use for a still picture. Maybe try posing like you would for a photograph and use that.

Notice how I toss out criticism while never having produced anything longer than a 5 sentence blog comment post and having a chance in hell of the commentator ever seeing it.

You can’t do that with Dinosaur media!

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