Comments on: Brit twit wants to regulate conversation http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/ by Jeff Jarvis Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:21:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: 注册公司 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-354881 注册公司 Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:16:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-354881 good morning. good morning.

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Guardian column: Making mistakes http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-239506 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Guardian column: Making mistakes Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:15:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-239506 [...] Consider the experience of Tim Toulmin, director of the Press Complaints Commission, when the BBC reported online that he thought bloggers should subscribe to a voluntary code of conduct, or else there is no redress for errors. I was one of many bloggers who responded tartly. On my site and on the MediaGuardian podcast, I called Toulmin - with apologies, dear readers - a “Brit twit” for thinking that one could regulate this vast conversation, which is what blogs really are. [...] [...] Consider the experience of Tim Toulmin, director of the Press Complaints Commission, when the BBC reported online that he thought bloggers should subscribe to a voluntary code of conduct, or else there is no redress for errors. I was one of many bloggers who responded tartly. On my site and on the MediaGuardian podcast, I called Toulmin - with apologies, dear readers - a “Brit twit” for thinking that one could regulate this vast conversation, which is what blogs really are. [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Twit no more http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-231884 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Twit no more Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:30:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-231884 [...] See Tim Toulmin, head of the U.K. Press Complaints Commission, responding to the dustup created when he was misquoted as wanting to regulate bloggers. I was among those stirring dust but I corrected that when Toulmin properly complained. Says Toulmin: Last week I read on one of the political websites about some twit who had said that a voluntary code of practice for blogs was needed. How absurd, I thought. Bloggers are hardly a homogenous profession; they operate in a naturally self-regulatory environment where inaccuracies can quickly be corrected by other posters; they have (sometimes) transnational followings, yet different countries have different cultural standards; it would be a bureaucratic nightmare to enforce; there is no proven need for one and so on. [...] [...] See Tim Toulmin, head of the U.K. Press Complaints Commission, responding to the dustup created when he was misquoted as wanting to regulate bloggers. I was among those stirring dust but I corrected that when Toulmin properly complained. Says Toulmin: Last week I read on one of the political websites about some twit who had said that a voluntary code of practice for blogs was needed. How absurd, I thought. Bloggers are hardly a homogenous profession; they operate in a naturally self-regulatory environment where inaccuracies can quickly be corrected by other posters; they have (sometimes) transnational followings, yet different countries have different cultural standards; it would be a bureaucratic nightmare to enforce; there is no proven need for one and so on. [...]

]]> By: Ethan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-219813 Ethan Fri, 01 Dec 2006 18:40:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-219813 Yes, I'll have to lose a few more brain cells before I understand the logic here. Yes, I’ll have to lose a few more brain cells before I understand the logic here.

]]> By: Alan Kellogg http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218955 Alan Kellogg Fri, 01 Dec 2006 04:11:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218955 Ethan, you'll understand when you're older. Ethan, you’ll understand when you’re older.

]]> By: Ethan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218936 Ethan Fri, 01 Dec 2006 03:50:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218936 To Jeff: what? English, please. To Jeff: what? English, please.

]]> By: DVH http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218305 DVH Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:51:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-218305 "The PCC is not a state institution. It’s the UK newspaper industry’s self-regulatory mechanism." This is correct. And it's interesting that a body funded by the newspapers should be seeking to regulate one of its new competitors... “The PCC is not a state institution. It’s the UK newspaper industry’s self-regulatory mechanism.”

This is correct. And it’s interesting that a body funded by the newspapers should be seeking to regulate one of its new competitors…

]]> By: Martin Stabe » links for 2006-11-30 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217789 Martin Stabe » links for 2006-11-30 Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:26:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217789 [...] BuzzMachine: Brit twit wants to regulate conversation Jeff Jarvis lays into Tim Toulmin’s suggestion for a blogger code of ethics. (tags: pcc blogs bloggers) [...] [...] BuzzMachine: Brit twit wants to regulate conversation Jeff Jarvis lays into Tim Toulmin’s suggestion for a blogger code of ethics. (tags: pcc blogs bloggers) [...]

]]> By: Martin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217288 Martin Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:06:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217288 Folks, relax. The PCC is not a state institution. It's the UK newspaper industry's self-regulatory mechanism. Folks, relax. The PCC is not a state institution. It’s the UK newspaper industry’s self-regulatory mechanism.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217188 Jeff Jarvis Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:59:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217188 Well, Ethan, there is no code of conduct for my dealing with my neighbors. I need no regulation for that. Do you? Perhaps you do, calling people morons. Bloody rude, eh? Delete you? No, I leave you there in all your regulatory glory. Well, Ethan, there is no code of conduct for my dealing with my neighbors. I need no regulation for that. Do you? Perhaps you do, calling people morons. Bloody rude, eh? Delete you? No, I leave you there in all your regulatory glory.

]]> By: Ethan http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217155 Ethan Wed, 29 Nov 2006 23:35:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217155 Stop the presses! Jeff Jarvis thinks that the British are trying to REGULATE conversation! Or, uh, wait...Jeff, have you ever heard of etiquette? Manners? That kind of thing? You know, voluntary codes of conduct for conversation? If anything, you prove that it pays to be a moron in this country. And, please, if you're going to delete me, don't do it because it's your "house" or something like that. After all, you wouldn't want to regulate conversation now, would you? Stop the presses! Jeff Jarvis thinks that the British are trying to REGULATE conversation!

Or, uh, wait…Jeff, have you ever heard of etiquette? Manners? That kind of thing? You know, voluntary codes of conduct for conversation?

If anything, you prove that it pays to be a moron in this country.

And, please, if you’re going to delete me, don’t do it because it’s your “house” or something like that. After all, you wouldn’t want to regulate conversation now, would you?

]]> By: David 2 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217075 David 2 Wed, 29 Nov 2006 21:58:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-217075 Actually the correct response is... BLOODY HELL! Actually the correct response is…

BLOODY HELL!

]]> By: Sports Guy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216891 Sports Guy Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:53:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216891 This is just sad. Big Brother is trying to grow... This is just sad. Big Brother is trying to grow…

]]> By: beloml http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216782 beloml Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:57:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216782 Jeff, you're talking about a dying nanny state. OF COURSE they want to regulate the speech of people over the phone, on the street, in bed, etc. Jeff, you’re talking about a dying nanny state. OF COURSE they want to regulate the speech of people over the phone, on the street, in bed, etc.

]]> By: Rob http://www.buzzmachine.com/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216772 Rob Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:40:52 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/index.php/2006/11/29/brit-twit-wants-to-regulate-conversation/#comment-216772 If a blog is really just speech, like conversation on the street corner or in bed, then it seems unreasonable to ask the courts to protect anonymous sources. Are bloggers asking to have it both ways? If a blog is really just speech, like conversation on the street corner or in bed, then it seems unreasonable to ask the courts to protect anonymous sources.

Are bloggers asking to have it both ways?

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