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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: howardowens.com: media blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Major newspaper going online only in 2007</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-355583</link>
		<dc:creator>howardowens.com: media blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Major newspaper going online only in 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was skeptical. Jeff Javis backed me up. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Quoi9 &#187; Signs of life after print</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-268169</link>
		<dc:creator>Quoi9 &#187; Signs of life after print</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 04:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The first week of 2007 was the week that saw the world&#8217;s oldest newspaper (361 years) cease to exist&#8230;in print that is. That&#8217;s right, the Swedish daily - Post-och Inrikes Tidningar,Â  lives on&#8230;on-line. This was posted by Jeff Jarvis on his popular media blog Buzzmachine whose b&#38;w header photo of rolling mill-type machinery from the industrial age fits this story well Jarvis cites Media Culpa a Swedish blog, as his source; who in turn link to the WAN - World Association of Newspapers website showing a list of the oldest newspapers still in print. An Internet Hits list? One duck down? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The first week of 2007 was the week that saw the world&#8217;s oldest newspaper (361 years) cease to exist&#8230;in print that is. That&#8217;s right, the Swedish daily - Post-och Inrikes Tidningar,Â  lives on&#8230;on-line. This was posted by Jeff Jarvis on his popular media blog Buzzmachine whose b&#38;w header photo of rolling mill-type machinery from the industrial age fits this story well Jarvis cites Media Culpa a Swedish blog, as his source; who in turn link to the WAN - World Association of Newspapers website showing a list of the oldest newspapers still in print. An Internet Hits list? One duck down? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-268066</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jan 2007 02:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd have to add that this move wasn't initiated by the editor but by the new conservative government of Sweden. It is propably more of a political move than economic necessity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to add that this move wasn&#8217;t initiated by the editor but by the new conservative government of Sweden. It is propably more of a political move than economic necessity.</p>
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		<title>By: The Print WSJ Is Only A Shadow Of Its Former Self &#187; Publishing 2.0</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-267591</link>
		<dc:creator>The Print WSJ Is Only A Shadow Of Its Former Self &#187; Publishing 2.0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 18:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So much of old media is engaged in a thinly veiled effort to keep up appearances, because they can&#8217;t simply replace the old with the new. As Jeff Jarvis observed, in disagreeing with my prediction that a major print publication would move to web-only publishing this year:  It will come, but not yet, for there is still profit to be made in print and sluggish advertisers still arenâ€™t ready to support the new medium â€” even if thatâ€™s where their customers are â€” and shut-down costs remain high. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So much of old media is engaged in a thinly veiled effort to keep up appearances, because they can&#8217;t simply replace the old with the new. As Jeff Jarvis observed, in disagreeing with my prediction that a major print publication would move to web-only publishing this year:  It will come, but not yet, for there is still profit to be made in print and sluggish advertisers still arenâ€™t ready to support the new medium â€” even if thatâ€™s where their customers are â€” and shut-down costs remain high. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Blog de PurÃ©e &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-och Inrikes Tidningar takes the plunge to Web-only news</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-265122</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog de PurÃ©e &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Post-och Inrikes Tidningar takes the plunge to Web-only news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On his blog, Buzz Machine, Jeff Jarvis cautions online publishing folks not to get too worked up about this turn of events because it is not a &#8220;major&#8221; newspaper. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On his blog, Buzz Machine, Jeff Jarvis cautions online publishing folks not to get too worked up about this turn of events because it is not a &#8220;major&#8221; newspaper. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-264943</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 14:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pinky and the Brain people are now kicking themselves that they didn't get www.poit.org first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pinky and the Brain people are now kicking themselves that they didn&#8217;t get <a href="http://www.poit.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.poit.org</a> first.</p>
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		<title>By: Lotta HolmstrÃ¶m</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-264903</link>
		<dc:creator>Lotta HolmstrÃ¶m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are quite correct that Post &#38; Inrikes Tidningar is very marginal indeed in Sweden. But sure, there are hard times ahead for the print editions of Sweden's large dailies. At Aftonbladet I hope and think we'll do fine, but for the smaller ones this will be tough. As anywhere, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are quite correct that Post &amp; Inrikes Tidningar is very marginal indeed in Sweden. But sure, there are hard times ahead for the print editions of Sweden&#8217;s large dailies. At Aftonbladet I hope and think we&#8217;ll do fine, but for the smaller ones this will be tough. As anywhere, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-264141</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 05:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Jeff.

I saw a European publish on Charlie Rose the other night (sorry, blanking out on his name -- he's Irish) and the views readership decline, pretty much, and an American thing.  It isn't happening in other parts of the world. Interesting ... 

I think the biggest threat to newspapers is blogs ... nibbled to death  ... more and more bloggers are making money, more and more are doing original reporting, more and more are entering the local markets.  That should be more of a concern than investors putting together a concerted effort in a local market (though LA is ripe for it).  I'm not talking, btw, about the straw man of blogs that MSM reporters like to dismiss and ignore, but blogs of substance, and there are many, that MSM journalists ignore to their own detriment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Jeff.</p>
<p>I saw a European publish on Charlie Rose the other night (sorry, blanking out on his name &#8212; he&#8217;s Irish) and the views readership decline, pretty much, and an American thing.  It isn&#8217;t happening in other parts of the world. Interesting &#8230; </p>
<p>I think the biggest threat to newspapers is blogs &#8230; nibbled to death  &#8230; more and more bloggers are making money, more and more are doing original reporting, more and more are entering the local markets.  That should be more of a concern than investors putting together a concerted effort in a local market (though LA is ripe for it).  I&#8217;m not talking, btw, about the straw man of blogs that MSM reporters like to dismiss and ignore, but blogs of substance, and there are many, that MSM journalists ignore to their own detriment.</p>
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		<title>By: Hasan Jafri</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-264026</link>
		<dc:creator>Hasan Jafri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like Rhea I am a print journalist but had stopped reading print newspapers altogether. Then I came to Hong Kong from Seattle a few months ago and noticed Asia is stuck in time. It will be really interesting to see how the "death of newspapers" pans out here in the "Orient," where  dead tree paper still rule the roost.

Hong Kong not only reads the South China Morning Post (SCMP) which claims to be the world's most profitable newspaper per capita (they've come up with a statistic to measure Hong Kong's per capita ad revenue) the Post's ownership also is all-powerful.  

It sequesters virtually ALL SCMP web content behind a pay wall bigger than the Great Wall of China.  Last month, a personnel dispute between Mark Clifford, the Woodwardian-era American-brand of print journalist who has become the  paper's editor, and the polyglot (think Chinese, Indian, Australian, Sri Lankan) editorial staff went pretty much unreported by the local media. Clifford summarily fired some senior journalists and and his actions would have remained unknown to the larger world were it not for the IHT, which covers the Hong Kong beat thoroughly and called the incident a "clash of cultures" in the newsroom. 

My favorite SCMP moment, though, came a couple of weeks ago when one of Hong Kong's leading internet providers, Netvigator, whose owner has ties with the paper's owner, started blocking access to Not The South China Morning Post (NTSCMP.com) a rival site that lampoons the SCMP. Charges of censorship flew across the Hong Kong blogosphere, and soon Netvigator -- which also happens to be my internet provider -- was obliged to stop censoring NTSCMP.com

A small victory for freedom of the press in a place where that freedom is first and foremost oppressed by media dinosaurs like the SCMP. Watch Asia for some real fisticuffs between old and new media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Rhea I am a print journalist but had stopped reading print newspapers altogether. Then I came to Hong Kong from Seattle a few months ago and noticed Asia is stuck in time. It will be really interesting to see how the &#8220;death of newspapers&#8221; pans out here in the &#8220;Orient,&#8221; where  dead tree paper still rule the roost.</p>
<p>Hong Kong not only reads the South China Morning Post (SCMP) which claims to be the world&#8217;s most profitable newspaper per capita (they&#8217;ve come up with a statistic to measure Hong Kong&#8217;s per capita ad revenue) the Post&#8217;s ownership also is all-powerful.  </p>
<p>It sequesters virtually ALL SCMP web content behind a pay wall bigger than the Great Wall of China.  Last month, a personnel dispute between Mark Clifford, the Woodwardian-era American-brand of print journalist who has become the  paper&#8217;s editor, and the polyglot (think Chinese, Indian, Australian, Sri Lankan) editorial staff went pretty much unreported by the local media. Clifford summarily fired some senior journalists and and his actions would have remained unknown to the larger world were it not for the IHT, which covers the Hong Kong beat thoroughly and called the incident a &#8220;clash of cultures&#8221; in the newsroom. </p>
<p>My favorite SCMP moment, though, came a couple of weeks ago when one of Hong Kong&#8217;s leading internet providers, Netvigator, whose owner has ties with the paper&#8217;s owner, started blocking access to Not The South China Morning Post (NTSCMP.com) a rival site that lampoons the SCMP. Charges of censorship flew across the Hong Kong blogosphere, and soon Netvigator &#8212; which also happens to be my internet provider &#8212; was obliged to stop censoring NTSCMP.com</p>
<p>A small victory for freedom of the press in a place where that freedom is first and foremost oppressed by media dinosaurs like the SCMP. Watch Asia for some real fisticuffs between old and new media.</p>
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		<title>By: SmartChristian.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-264007</link>
		<dc:creator>SmartChristian.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The world&#8217;s oldest still-published newspaper, Swedenâ€™s Post- och Inrikes Tidningar, founded in 1645, is going out of print and moving to the web.Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The world&#8217;s oldest still-published newspaper, Swedenâ€™s Post- och Inrikes Tidningar, founded in 1645, is going out of print and moving to the web.Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ol' BC</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-263999</link>
		<dc:creator>Ol' BC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real sad.</description>
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		<title>By: Rhea</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/01/01/a-newspaper-resurrection/#comment-263874</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jan 2007 18:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a longtime print journalist, I was very interested to hear about the Swedish paper. I do believe that newspapers' days are numbered but I still think the demise of a major paper is a few years off. Although I am online a lot, I still like reading a paper. I'm 48. My colleague at the publication I now edit is 33. He almost exclusively reads his news online. Very telling....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a longtime print journalist, I was very interested to hear about the Swedish paper. I do believe that newspapers&#8217; days are numbered but I still think the demise of a major paper is a few years off. Although I am online a lot, I still like reading a paper. I&#8217;m 48. My colleague at the publication I now edit is 33. He almost exclusively reads his news online. Very telling&#8230;.</p>
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