Comments on: The innovation race http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/ by Jeff Jarvis Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:03:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Press Gazette Blogs - Fleet Street 2.0 » Dennis skunk works get their developer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-345938 Press Gazette Blogs - Fleet Street 2.0 » Dennis skunk works get their developer Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:57:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-345938 [...] interal startup, Project Red Stripe, has already had a fair bit of attention, not least from Jeff Jarvis and the Slashdot [...] [...] interal startup, Project Red Stripe, has already had a fair bit of attention, not least from Jeff Jarvis and the Slashdot [...]

]]> By: Kempton http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-345251 Kempton Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:43:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-345251 I was initially happy to see PRS up and running until I read the March 14th posting “Ideas from the ether” by Stewart Robinson. I have yet seen a crowdsourcing project trying hard to laugh at the crowd. True, some of the comments/suggestions/ideas were abusive and not constructive but why focus of the bad stuff and not share the good stuff. I have a longer post here for those that are interested. I hope my comments are not offensive enough to be deleted from here (like it seemed to have happen at PRS blog site). Thanks for your indulgence. Here is my more detailed critique on the PRS posting "Ideas from the ether”, http://kempton.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/the-economists-project-red-stripe-what-were-they-thinking/ I was initially happy to see PRS up and running until I read the March 14th posting “Ideas from the ether” by Stewart Robinson. I have yet seen a crowdsourcing project trying hard to laugh at the crowd. True, some of the comments/suggestions/ideas were abusive and not constructive but why focus of the bad stuff and not share the good stuff.

I have a longer post here for those that are interested. I hope my comments are not offensive enough to be deleted from here (like it seemed to have happen at PRS blog site).

Thanks for your indulgence. Here is my more detailed critique on the PRS posting “Ideas from the ether”,

http://kempton.wordpress.com/2007/03/17/the-economists-project-red-stripe-what-were-they-thinking/

]]> By: Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2007-03-15 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344881 Framtider.net » Blog Archive » links for 2007-03-15 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 22:21:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344881 [...] BuzzMachine: The innovation race “Project Red Stripe team at the Economist: six people — from editorial, classified, marketing, data sales, technology — who have been given six months, $200,000, and the freedom to use any content from any Economist property to come up with something (tags: economist project_red_stripe innovation journalistik deltagande_kultur jeff_jarvis) [...] [...] BuzzMachine: The innovation race “Project Red Stripe team at the Economist: six people — from editorial, classified, marketing, data sales, technology — who have been given six months, $200,000, and the freedom to use any content from any Economist property to come up with something (tags: economist project_red_stripe innovation journalistik deltagande_kultur jeff_jarvis) [...]

]]> By: Ric http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344694 Ric Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:37:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344694 "I’d suggest that a better way to share is openly on your own blog, which they are free to read and to use as inspiration and should still" ... how about a "redstripe" tag for del.icio.us etc.? - make it easier for them ... “I’d suggest that a better way to share is openly on your own blog, which they are free to read and to use as inspiration and should still” … how about a “redstripe” tag for del.icio.us etc.? - make it easier for them …

]]> By: From Buzz Machine by Jeff Jarvis: Innovation in London… « Identity Unknown http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344674 From Buzz Machine by Jeff Jarvis: Innovation in London… « Identity Unknown Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:27:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344674 [...] From Buzz Machine by Jeff Jarvis: Innovation in London… The innovation race [...] [...] From Buzz Machine by Jeff Jarvis: Innovation in London… The innovation race [...]

]]> By: Ron Shewchuk http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344669 Ron Shewchuk Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:58:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344669 It's interesting that print journalism is going through this now, while in the corporate world so many organizations completely abandoned print years ago, only to find that online channels just don't reach employees as effectively as print publications. If there's anything to learn from the corporate experience is you shouldn't ever completely abandon one medium for another. I hope these publications don't starve their print arms to death while they divert all their energy to enhancing their online activities. The thing that will ultimately kill a publication is not a competing technology, but that the content becomes irrelevant and boring. It’s interesting that print journalism is going through this now, while in the corporate world so many organizations completely abandoned print years ago, only to find that online channels just don’t reach employees as effectively as print publications.

If there’s anything to learn from the corporate experience is you shouldn’t ever completely abandon one medium for another. I hope these publications don’t starve their print arms to death while they divert all their energy to enhancing their online activities. The thing that will ultimately kill a publication is not a competing technology, but that the content becomes irrelevant and boring.

]]> By: Julian On Software » Newspapers 2.0: Project Red Stripe and USA Today’s utter, utter failure http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344666 Julian On Software » Newspapers 2.0: Project Red Stripe and USA Today’s utter, utter failure Fri, 09 Mar 2007 23:02:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344666 [...] Jeff Jarvis highlighted this — saying these guys have $US200k and 6 months to figure it all out. They came to London because apparently this is where the newspaper innovation is. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis highlighted this — saying these guys have $US200k and 6 months to figure it all out. They came to London because apparently this is where the newspaper innovation is. [...]

]]> By: Alex Hammer http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344663 Alex Hammer Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:16:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344663 Investment without sound principles is a waste. Actually, it is only an investment if there is a positive ROI. Otherwise it is only an expenditure. Investment without sound principles is a waste. Actually, it is only an investment if there is a positive ROI. Otherwise it is only an expenditure.

]]> By: David N http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344661 David N Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:23:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344661 I was very happy to see this story, it is well written. Here is a thought: Innovation is the greatest story within journalism today - that's what the news industry people ponder upon and discuss between themselves. But it is the same for all people in all other industries! So why are innovation processes not better covered in news stories? A theory: innovation processes crosses traditional newsbeats, it is a mix of technology, business, politics, legal issues etc. It can be tricky to sort such a story into a news category, and the question is which section editor should handle it. If the story in this blog was to be printed in a newspaper, which editor would be responsible for it, which page would it be published on? Are the news rooms organized to cover innovation issues? Innovation and journalism is something we are addressing in the innovation journalism program: http://www.innovationjournalism.org I was very happy to see this story, it is well written. Here is a thought: Innovation is the greatest story within journalism today - that’s what the news industry people ponder upon and discuss between themselves. But it is the same for all people in all other industries! So why are innovation processes not better covered in news stories? A theory: innovation processes crosses traditional newsbeats, it is a mix of technology, business, politics, legal issues etc. It can be tricky to sort such a story into a news category, and the question is which section editor should handle it. If the story in this blog was to be printed in a newspaper, which editor would be responsible for it, which page would it be published on? Are the news rooms organized to cover innovation issues?

Innovation and journalism is something we are addressing in the innovation journalism program: http://www.innovationjournalism.org

]]> By: Tansley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344660 Tansley Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:41:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344660 opsit: when I can SEE adv. & disadv. to either... opsit: when I can SEE adv. & disadv. to either…

]]> By: Tansley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344659 Tansley Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:39:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344659 The really interesting part of this, to me, was your dance with Nisenholtz regarding centralized architecture vs. distributed structure...probably because of the political implications. The Yahoo model (portal) makes it easy to 'gather all the loose ends' into one venue - a convenience tool for those wishing to put forth an agenda to a fixed demographic. The Google model allows for rapid dissemination of data over a demographic spread - putting the word out quickly to anybody and everybody who might stumble across it. It would be difficult for me to pick which one was preferable, when I can advantages and disadvantages to either... The really interesting part of this, to me, was your dance with Nisenholtz regarding centralized architecture vs. distributed structure…probably because of the political implications. The Yahoo model (portal) makes it easy to ‘gather all the loose ends’ into one venue - a convenience tool for those wishing to put forth an agenda to a fixed demographic. The Google model allows for rapid dissemination of data over a demographic spread - putting the word out quickly to anybody and everybody who might stumble across it. It would be difficult for me to pick which one was preferable, when I can advantages and disadvantages to either…

]]> By: Tom Shelley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344658 Tom Shelley Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:59:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344658 Thanks for that Jeff, now I'm being called the old man of The Economist ;-). Right, next week its going to be nothing but microformat data mashups and extreme behavoural aggregation. I'll only use nouns that begin with hyper and do on the fly abbreviation (OTFA), then I'll PMSMC (prove my social media credentials). Thanks for that Jeff, now I’m being called the old man of The Economist ;-). Right, next week its going to be nothing but microformat data mashups and extreme behavoural aggregation. I’ll only use nouns that begin with hyper and do on the fly abbreviation (OTFA), then I’ll PMSMC (prove my social media credentials).

]]> By: The Economist, cool? Who saw that coming? « Eoin Purcell’s Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344657 The Economist, cool? Who saw that coming? « Eoin Purcell’s Blog Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:46:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344657 [...] They are accepting ideas here and have suggestions and hints here oh and Jeff Jarvis mentions them here. [...] [...] They are accepting ideas here and have suggestions and hints here oh and Jeff Jarvis mentions them here. [...]

]]> By: shawnpetriw http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344653 shawnpetriw Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:24:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344653 "...Rusbridger’s speech about shifting the Guardian to 27/7 preeminent-web journalism..." Wow - 27/7 news - now THAT's innovation! “…Rusbridger’s speech about shifting the Guardian to 27/7 preeminent-web journalism…”

Wow - 27/7 news - now THAT’s innovation!

]]> By: The Economist’s internal start-up « I’m Simon Dickson. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344652 The Economist’s internal start-up « I’m Simon Dickson. Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:44:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/03/09/the-innovation-race/#comment-344652 [...] and a six month deadline. I bet they pull it off, too. Whatever it ends up as. (Thanks to Jeff Jarvis and Antony Mayfield for the [...] [...] and a six month deadline. I bet they pull it off, too. Whatever it ends up as. (Thanks to Jeff Jarvis and Antony Mayfield for the [...]

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