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	<title>Comments on: For shame, NBC News: Stealing the debate</title>
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		<title>By: greenship</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-373454</link>
		<dc:creator>greenship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does it really matter whether it is posted on the net or not? the real matter is whether any and all american citizens have the ability to view and take part in a debate,  CaptiousNut said it best. Read his commentary. Here is the reality folks, we are a representative republic NOT a democracy, so? So, don't hedge your bets on being included on anything that our government decides to do, even if you do vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does it really matter whether it is posted on the net or not? the real matter is whether any and all american citizens have the ability to view and take part in a debate,  CaptiousNut said it best. Read his commentary. Here is the reality folks, we are a representative republic NOT a democracy, so? So, don&#8217;t hedge your bets on being included on anything that our government decides to do, even if you do vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-359244</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 00:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If not government sponsored through checkoff, or military and government sponsored by taxes, no free public debate except by FCC licensed (and paid) broadcasting without using the internet can only be described as preferential politics.

No candidate should be elected who is willing to endorse and support "closed door" access to government, or to elections by which selective politics can be accomplished.

Today's technology allows free broadcast of porn, but not of politics.

Internet is the least expensive method of providing full service access, both domestically and internationally, since surely there are many outside the nation who would also want to view the broadcasts.
What good is public television is the nation's most essential processes occur behind closed doors?

It is disgraceful not to use available technology to share American government with its citizens without requiring them to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If not government sponsored through checkoff, or military and government sponsored by taxes, no free public debate except by FCC licensed (and paid) broadcasting without using the internet can only be described as preferential politics.</p>
<p>No candidate should be elected who is willing to endorse and support &#8220;closed door&#8221; access to government, or to elections by which selective politics can be accomplished.</p>
<p>Today&#8217;s technology allows free broadcast of porn, but not of politics.</p>
<p>Internet is the least expensive method of providing full service access, both domestically and internationally, since surely there are many outside the nation who would also want to view the broadcasts.<br />
What good is public television is the nation&#8217;s most essential processes occur behind closed doors?</p>
<p>It is disgraceful not to use available technology to share American government with its citizens without requiring them to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: Burdman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349908</link>
		<dc:creator>Burdman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only thing worse is FOX news' treatment of the second debate. That was not even simulcast on CSPAN.

In a democracy, this should work the other way around. For example. Say the establishment that controls the debate rules wants to axe Ron Paul from the next debate. The media should arrange a boycott amongst themselves so no one can watch the insider love fest. To have something 180 degrees from correct shows that this debate system needs redone from a clean slate.

Some complain about too many 'third tier' candidates in the debates. But it was Ron Paul that made the last one worth watching. As H. Ross Perot did before. Once the third tier stop showing up, you may as well plug your ears to election coverage until the polling data comes out a week before the primary.

Do you really think the budget would have been balanced if it were not for Perot getting into double digits in the '92 election? It is really the third tier that makes the difference at this stage. If they broke the debates into a debate amongst the top three, and another for all the others. If you would choose to watch the top three debate? I bet you like to watch paint dry too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing worse is FOX news&#8217; treatment of the second debate. That was not even simulcast on CSPAN.</p>
<p>In a democracy, this should work the other way around. For example. Say the establishment that controls the debate rules wants to axe Ron Paul from the next debate. The media should arrange a boycott amongst themselves so no one can watch the insider love fest. To have something 180 degrees from correct shows that this debate system needs redone from a clean slate.</p>
<p>Some complain about too many &#8216;third tier&#8217; candidates in the debates. But it was Ron Paul that made the last one worth watching. As H. Ross Perot did before. Once the third tier stop showing up, you may as well plug your ears to election coverage until the polling data comes out a week before the primary.</p>
<p>Do you really think the budget would have been balanced if it were not for Perot getting into double digits in the &#8216;92 election? It is really the third tier that makes the difference at this stage. If they broke the debates into a debate amongst the top three, and another for all the others. If you would choose to watch the top three debate? I bet you like to watch paint dry too.</p>
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		<title>By: Personal notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Democratic content and political debates</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349691</link>
		<dc:creator>Personal notes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Democratic content and political debates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2007 02:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] example MSNBC put harsh restrictions on the Presidential Primary Debates broadcast. This mean the debate of a political event is no more public. Someone will not be able to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: See What&#8217;s Out There &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mixing and Matching Debate Footage - Fair Use Yet Again</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349481</link>
		<dc:creator>See What&#8217;s Out There &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Mixing and Matching Debate Footage - Fair Use Yet Again</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up by other stations, some of the important discourse concerning the election of our next President will remain locked up by big media companies. Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up by other stations, some of the important discourse concerning the election of our next President will remain locked up by big media companies. Share and Enjoy:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Center for Citizen Media: Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Using the Web, and Openness, to Improve Political Debates</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349441</link>
		<dc:creator>Center for Citizen Media: Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Using the Web, and Openness, to Improve Political Debates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 15:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Carolina, the network insisted on odiously stringent restrictions, as media critic Jeff Jarvis noted after getting a copy of the &#8220;Usage Rules&#8221; from a source at [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rolf Ernst</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349199</link>
		<dc:creator>Rolf Ernst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the comments on CSPAN. This should be a publicly funded and public domain service.

On the other hand I would like to make the point that while the American public has a right to the presidential debates, true debates between all candidates are not carried on any network or station. A debate between Democrats or Republicans or both vs. each other represents such a narrow political spectrum that I do not believe it is worth watching in the first place (alebit, I do). It is predictable rhetoric of an elite financed by special interest. In a twisted sense, these parties have bought their own airtime.

What is needed is what you will find in most European countries: Free debates with time for all candidates from all parties on a public network.

As long as commercial interest is intertwined with the prevalent politertainment, the American people are neither being informed nor given the opportunity to make a choice. The last thing those candidates want you to hear is discourse outside the parameters they and the network producers have hatched. Why else do you think do you never hear a really hard-hitting question?

It's just one of the countless ways that the public has been conspicuously disenfranchised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the comments on CSPAN. This should be a publicly funded and public domain service.</p>
<p>On the other hand I would like to make the point that while the American public has a right to the presidential debates, true debates between all candidates are not carried on any network or station. A debate between Democrats or Republicans or both vs. each other represents such a narrow political spectrum that I do not believe it is worth watching in the first place (alebit, I do). It is predictable rhetoric of an elite financed by special interest. In a twisted sense, these parties have bought their own airtime.</p>
<p>What is needed is what you will find in most European countries: Free debates with time for all candidates from all parties on a public network.</p>
<p>As long as commercial interest is intertwined with the prevalent politertainment, the American people are neither being informed nor given the opportunity to make a choice. The last thing those candidates want you to hear is discourse outside the parameters they and the network producers have hatched. Why else do you think do you never hear a really hard-hitting question?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just one of the countless ways that the public has been conspicuously disenfranchised.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Perlberg</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349197</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Perlberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related topic, my company operates a web site with a webcam that overlooks Fifth Avenue in New York City.  One of the most popular days for this webcam is St. Patrick's Day when people from all over the world log on to watch the St. Patricks Day parade.  Several years ago we got a nasty letter from NBC saying we had to turn the webcam off during the parade.  So now NBC apparently thinks they have the exclusive rights to what goes on on a public street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related topic, my company operates a web site with a webcam that overlooks Fifth Avenue in New York City.  One of the most popular days for this webcam is St. Patrick&#8217;s Day when people from all over the world log on to watch the St. Patricks Day parade.  Several years ago we got a nasty letter from NBC saying we had to turn the webcam off during the parade.  So now NBC apparently thinks they have the exclusive rights to what goes on on a public street.</p>
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		<title>By: David Sutherland</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349166</link>
		<dc:creator>David Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 11:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been trying to get footage from HOUSE PUBLIC FLOOR DEBATES regarding abortion -- just to get the issue out there... 

Guess who owns the footage from government proceedings??? 

CSPAN is a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION and COPYRIGHTS their material.    You are not allowed to rebroadcast, or edit and show C-Span footage.

C'mon guys -- write your congress and senate reps -- this is absurd.  They are very frightened with what will happen if we start editing together their footage and make them look bad.  It's time we move past the glamor and tricks of television and "the people" start taking advantage of modern communications media to further discussion debate and progress in this country.

The Government Printing Office (GPO) has been around for years for a reason -- it's time (and I say this as a "small government" Republican) -- it's time for the feds to record and release publicly all public government proceedings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to get footage from HOUSE PUBLIC FLOOR DEBATES regarding abortion &#8212; just to get the issue out there&#8230; </p>
<p>Guess who owns the footage from government proceedings??? </p>
<p>CSPAN is a PRIVATE ORGANIZATION and COPYRIGHTS their material.    You are not allowed to rebroadcast, or edit and show C-Span footage.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon guys &#8212; write your congress and senate reps &#8212; this is absurd.  They are very frightened with what will happen if we start editing together their footage and make them look bad.  It&#8217;s time we move past the glamor and tricks of television and &#8220;the people&#8221; start taking advantage of modern communications media to further discussion debate and progress in this country.</p>
<p>The Government Printing Office (GPO) has been around for years for a reason &#8212; it&#8217;s time (and I say this as a &#8220;small government&#8221; Republican) &#8212; it&#8217;s time for the feds to record and release publicly all public government proceedings.</p>
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		<title>By: steer</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349148</link>
		<dc:creator>steer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't see what the fuss is about.  The full debate is available at MSNBC.com, so anyone can see it at any time, and bloggers can link to it to their heart's content.  Where's the burden on bloggers?

As to whether the "public" or MSNBC owns this televised debate:

I think it promotes democracy for TV channels to carry the debates because TV is still the most pervasive media.  However, due to the low ratings of debates, advertisers don't pay squat for time during a debate.  Thus, carrying a debate in prime time costs a TV channel plenty.   To ensure that MSNBC and other channels that do money-losing broadcasts of political debates, and thus promote democracy, the channels should have a right to find other ways to monetize the broadcast.  One way is through the pre-roll advertisements on the internet streams of the debates.  

Again, where's the harm if the debate has been made freely available on the Internet, as in this case?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see what the fuss is about.  The full debate is available at MSNBC.com, so anyone can see it at any time, and bloggers can link to it to their heart&#8217;s content.  Where&#8217;s the burden on bloggers?</p>
<p>As to whether the &#8220;public&#8221; or MSNBC owns this televised debate:</p>
<p>I think it promotes democracy for TV channels to carry the debates because TV is still the most pervasive media.  However, due to the low ratings of debates, advertisers don&#8217;t pay squat for time during a debate.  Thus, carrying a debate in prime time costs a TV channel plenty.   To ensure that MSNBC and other channels that do money-losing broadcasts of political debates, and thus promote democracy, the channels should have a right to find other ways to monetize the broadcast.  One way is through the pre-roll advertisements on the internet streams of the debates.  </p>
<p>Again, where&#8217;s the harm if the debate has been made freely available on the Internet, as in this case?</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;Internet Usage is Not Permitted&#8221; at Blog the Campaign in 08</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349121</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;Internet Usage is Not Permitted&#8221; at Blog the Campaign in 08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 15:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] href=&#8221;http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/&#8221;&#62;Jeff Jarvis has every right to be pissed at MSNBC&#60;/a&#62; for the network&#8217;s decision to severely [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] href=&#8221;http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/&#8221;&gt;Jeff Jarvis has every right to be pissed at MSNBC&lt;/a&gt; for the network&#8217;s decision to severely [...]</p>
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		<title>By: purple motes</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349045</link>
		<dc:creator>purple motes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 19:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;COB-10: customer service standards and processes...&lt;/strong&gt;

Nothing is more important to a bureaucracy than customer service standards.  Undoubtedly the customer service metric that should have the greatest weight in a customer service performance index is the human touch.  Steve Portigal offers an insightful p...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>COB-10: customer service standards and processes&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Nothing is more important to a bureaucracy than customer service standards.  Undoubtedly the customer service metric that should have the greatest weight in a customer service performance index is the human touch.  Steve Portigal offers an insightful p&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: awry</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349019</link>
		<dc:creator>awry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;MSNBC Hijacking Democratic Primary Debate...&lt;/strong&gt;

As Jeff Jarvis points out over at the Buzz Machine, MSNBC has placed a very restrictive license on their video coverage of tonight's Democratic primary debate.
Regardless of your opinion on the usefulness of political debates (especially at this early...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>MSNBC Hijacking Democratic Primary Debate&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As Jeff Jarvis points out over at the Buzz Machine, MSNBC has placed a very restrictive license on their video coverage of tonight&#8217;s Democratic primary debate.<br />
Regardless of your opinion on the usefulness of political debates (especially at this early&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-349017</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a couple ideas
Saturate youtube et. al. with clips in which the 'credit' "MSNBC thinks it owns this debate" appears prominently
Make a list of all companies who sponsor the broadcast, and let them know you are going to forego purchasing anything from them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a couple ideas<br />
Saturate youtube et. al. with clips in which the &#8216;credit&#8217; &#8220;MSNBC thinks it owns this debate&#8221; appears prominently<br />
Make a list of all companies who sponsor the broadcast, and let them know you are going to forego purchasing anything from them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiago DÃ³ria Website &#187; Mais dois lados</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348989</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiago DÃ³ria Website &#187; Mais dois lados</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] o uso na internet de imagens do debate dos candidatos democratas Ã  presidÃªncia nos EUA. Motivo de revolta nos blogs de mÃ­dia, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348978</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW:

They are on YouTube... for now, eh?

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bigpebble47

Three clips:
Response to terroris attack
Abortion
Is the War Lost

I'm sure more will be up there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW:</p>
<p>They are on YouTube&#8230; for now, eh?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bigpebble47" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=bigpebble47</a></p>
<p>Three clips:<br />
Response to terroris attack<br />
Abortion<br />
Is the War Lost</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure more will be up there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348975</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;What happened to â€œFair Use?â€</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Hergenrather</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348964</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Hergenrather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348964</guid>
		<description>What happened to "Fair Use?"</description>
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		<title>By: TV Networks Don&#8217;t Get it - Democratic Debate Not on TV? &#124; Personal Insights on Web 2.0, Blogging, and Business</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348960</link>
		<dc:creator>TV Networks Don&#8217;t Get it - Democratic Debate Not on TV? &#124; Personal Insights on Web 2.0, Blogging, and Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] democratic debate was tonight &#8212; but it was not on broadcast television. Why not? I thought this was a great take on the situation from Jeff Jarvis&#8217; post: A properly [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] democratic debate was tonight &#8212; but it was not on broadcast television. Why not? I thought this was a great take on the situation from Jeff Jarvis&#8217; post: A properly [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348943</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that NBC is being a little anal about coverage of this South Carolina Democratic debate.  It would serve NBC right to allow viewers to use clips online for more traffic to their sites.  It would also help get the debates out there and get people interested in the election.  Also, who is coming up the questions?  Is there someone at NBC writing up the questions?  With the rise of online debates that allow viewers to post questions, I think each debate should have user questions.  I don't like the fact that NBC is controlling everything, they should open up some more, or at least give us a better excuse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that NBC is being a little anal about coverage of this South Carolina Democratic debate.  It would serve NBC right to allow viewers to use clips online for more traffic to their sites.  It would also help get the debates out there and get people interested in the election.  Also, who is coming up the questions?  Is there someone at NBC writing up the questions?  With the rise of online debates that allow viewers to post questions, I think each debate should have user questions.  I don&#8217;t like the fact that NBC is controlling everything, they should open up some more, or at least give us a better excuse.</p>
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		<title>By: The Live Video Revolution &#124; Verge New Media</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348942</link>
		<dc:creator>The Live Video Revolution &#124; Verge New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] during the South Carolina Democratic Debates. So while Jeff Jarvis is miffed at NBC for &#8220;stealing&#8221; tonight&#8217;s debate, at least one of the candidates will provide a unique, behind-the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] during the South Carolina Democratic Debates. So while Jeff Jarvis is miffed at NBC for &#8220;stealing&#8221; tonight&#8217;s debate, at least one of the candidates will provide a unique, behind-the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348935</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly I'm not surprised by what MSNBC is doing.  The networks long ago ceased thinking of the airwaves as belonging to the public.  I guess it's a ridiculous though logical extension that they own public debate as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly I&#8217;m not surprised by what MSNBC is doing.  The networks long ago ceased thinking of the airwaves as belonging to the public.  I guess it&#8217;s a ridiculous though logical extension that they own public debate as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348934</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrifying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrifying.</p>
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		<title>By: James Barger</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348932</link>
		<dc:creator>James Barger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best idea ever!.................Do Not Use Any of the AUDIO OR VIDEO OF MSNBC MATERIAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best idea ever!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Do Not Use Any of the AUDIO OR VIDEO OF MSNBC MATERIAL.</p>
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		<title>By: James Barger</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/04/26/for-shame-nbc-news-stealing-the-debate/#comment-348931</link>
		<dc:creator>James Barger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best idea ever!.................Do Not Use Any of the AUDIO OR VIDEO OF MSNBC MATERIAL. 

An unobstructed onscreen credit â€œMSNBCâ€ must appear during each debate excerpt and remain on screen for the entire excerpt.

MSNBC... NBC...stand for we learn slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best idea ever!&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..Do Not Use Any of the AUDIO OR VIDEO OF MSNBC MATERIAL. </p>
<p>An unobstructed onscreen credit â€œMSNBCâ€ must appear during each debate excerpt and remain on screen for the entire excerpt.</p>
<p>MSNBC&#8230; NBC&#8230;stand for we learn slow.</p>
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