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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Joxvn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-363930</link>
		<dc:creator>Joxvn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IT Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell&#8217;s Mea Culpa</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-362373</link>
		<dc:creator>IT Management &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell&#8217;s Mea Culpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this case, I agree with what Jeff Jarvis had to say: instead of trying to control information that was made public, we should have simply [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dell Admit&#8217;s Mistakes &#171; Kevin Burton&#8217;s NEW FeedBlog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-353287</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell Admit&#8217;s Mistakes &#171; Kevin Burton&#8217;s NEW FeedBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 21:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this case, I agree with what Jeff Jarvis had to say: instead of trying to control information that was made public, we should have simply [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sum Yung Gai</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-353057</link>
		<dc:creator>Sum Yung Gai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jun 2007 04:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, there are alternatives to Dell.  I offer two:

ZaReason (http://www.zareason.com)
System76 (http://www.system76.com)

Both of these companies offer and support preinstalled Ubuntu systems and make this their business.  If you don't like or trust Dell (or HP), then check these two out.  I learned about them from the Blog of Helios (http://www.lobby4linux.com).

Another alternative is to simply head to your local computer store and have them build you one.  Yes, such shops continue to exist and even thrive.  The benefit is that, if you wish, you actually get to choose your specific hardware components (motherboard, NIC, etc.).  You can also choose your OS; you can have them install it, or you can do so yourself.

--SYG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, there are alternatives to Dell.  I offer two:</p>
<p>ZaReason (http://www.zareason.com)<br />
System76 (http://www.system76.com)</p>
<p>Both of these companies offer and support preinstalled Ubuntu systems and make this their business.  If you don&#8217;t like or trust Dell (or HP), then check these two out.  I learned about them from the Blog of Helios (http://www.lobby4linux.com).</p>
<p>Another alternative is to simply head to your local computer store and have them build you one.  Yes, such shops continue to exist and even thrive.  The benefit is that, if you wish, you actually get to choose your specific hardware components (motherboard, NIC, etc.).  You can also choose your OS; you can have them install it, or you can do so yourself.</p>
<p>&#8211;SYG</p>
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		<title>By: TFM</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-352356</link>
		<dc:creator>TFM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell may be trying to improve, but what about the people that need reliable computers NOW? What about us "loyal customers" who need fast working and relaible laptops, but we can't get the proper service or technology from the precious "Dell" company? I think you are giving Dell way to much credit. If they can't promise reliability and they can't promise what they offer, they should go down in flames. Company's like Toshiba, Gateway, and HP are alot better all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell may be trying to improve, but what about the people that need reliable computers NOW? What about us &#8220;loyal customers&#8221; who need fast working and relaible laptops, but we can&#8217;t get the proper service or technology from the precious &#8220;Dell&#8221; company? I think you are giving Dell way to much credit. If they can&#8217;t promise reliability and they can&#8217;t promise what they offer, they should go down in flames. Company&#8217;s like Toshiba, Gateway, and HP are alot better all around.</p>
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		<title>By: Le Blogueur &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell gaffe en menacant un blog puis s'excuse</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351889</link>
		<dc:creator>Le Blogueur &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell gaffe en menacant un blog puis s'excuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] lies. Dell sucks), attirant l&#8217;attention de CNN et d&#8217;autres grands mÃ©dias, ne peut que regretter cette nouvelle [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Namita Arora</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351583</link>
		<dc:creator>Namita Arora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been using a Dell Latitude c600 for three years now. This is a second hand laptop, meaning it had already been through the wear and tear cycle before..Despite all this, it has never caused me any grief. 

The problem may not even be product centric but may have more to do with the brands perception in the consumers mind..Having been in the eye of the storm one too many times, Dell is susceptible to attacks even for the minutest errors and not to forget, negative news makes good headlines.
 
In this era of social media, the consumer is unforgiving and brands have to work that extra bit to build and maintain traction. While Dell has, to its credit already adopted a slew of consumer centric properties, it may still need to realise that adoption of social media implies a paradigm shift in a company's communication policies. Ability to chew the bitter sweet pill with grace is a part of the parcel. Dell would have built more credit for itself if it had chosen to positively participate or steer clear from the conversation, rather than seek removal of the post. In this networked era, word gets out rapidly and there is no real delete button. It seems they probably hit the panic button before understanding the impact of its actions. 

On the other hand, this case raises another concern. If ex-employees, having been in positions of power and knowledge begin to openly provide insider information in public domain, how are companies going to manage in the future? While in the case of Dell, the info may not have been sensitive, in other cases, such a thing could amount to holding a company at ransom. Possibly, growing adoption and dependance on social media could also give rise to a set of users whose only agenda is to malign and degrade brands..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been using a Dell Latitude c600 for three years now. This is a second hand laptop, meaning it had already been through the wear and tear cycle before..Despite all this, it has never caused me any grief. </p>
<p>The problem may not even be product centric but may have more to do with the brands perception in the consumers mind..Having been in the eye of the storm one too many times, Dell is susceptible to attacks even for the minutest errors and not to forget, negative news makes good headlines.</p>
<p>In this era of social media, the consumer is unforgiving and brands have to work that extra bit to build and maintain traction. While Dell has, to its credit already adopted a slew of consumer centric properties, it may still need to realise that adoption of social media implies a paradigm shift in a company&#8217;s communication policies. Ability to chew the bitter sweet pill with grace is a part of the parcel. Dell would have built more credit for itself if it had chosen to positively participate or steer clear from the conversation, rather than seek removal of the post. In this networked era, word gets out rapidly and there is no real delete button. It seems they probably hit the panic button before understanding the impact of its actions. </p>
<p>On the other hand, this case raises another concern. If ex-employees, having been in positions of power and knowledge begin to openly provide insider information in public domain, how are companies going to manage in the future? While in the case of Dell, the info may not have been sensitive, in other cases, such a thing could amount to holding a company at ransom. Possibly, growing adoption and dependance on social media could also give rise to a set of users whose only agenda is to malign and degrade brands..</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351581</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell's learning.  Change is slow and painful.  Gota give them points for listening &#38; improving.

Major points to Dell for not imposing the "Windows Tax" on everyone.  U.S. customers who opt for Ubuntu Linux (3 models) or FreeDOS (a few more models) don't have to pay for Microsoft Windows that they won't use.  Choice; what a concept!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell&#8217;s learning.  Change is slow and painful.  Gota give them points for listening &amp; improving.</p>
<p>Major points to Dell for not imposing the &#8220;Windows Tax&#8221; on everyone.  U.S. customers who opt for Ubuntu Linux (3 models) or FreeDOS (a few more models) don&#8217;t have to pay for Microsoft Windows that they won&#8217;t use.  Choice; what a concept!</p>
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		<title>By: Sue&#8217;s Place - Controlled chaos &#187; Social Dell Coupons</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351580</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue&#8217;s Place - Controlled chaos &#187; Social Dell Coupons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at the Direct2Dell blog, the first of which is, &#8220;&#8230;we blew it&#8230;&#8221;) Even Jeff Jarvis felt sorry for Dell.   This entry is filed under blogging, computers. You can follow any responses to this entry [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at the Direct2Dell blog, the first of which is, &#8220;&#8230;we blew it&#8230;&#8221;) Even Jeff Jarvis felt sorry for Dell.   This entry is filed under blogging, computers. You can follow any responses to this entry [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A worthwhile example of corporate transparency: Dell&#8230; &#171; Community Group Therapy</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351572</link>
		<dc:creator>A worthwhile example of corporate transparency: Dell&#8230; &#171; Community Group Therapy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other bloggers posts on the topic (Jeff Jarvis)&#160;- this says they did some [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mohamad</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351570</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats what I put up on that crappy direct2dell blog</description>
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		<title>By: Mohamad</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351569</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 02:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought my first Dell in 1996 after working all summer, not playing with my friends, and saving everything I earned when I was 14 years old. It was a Dell Dimension XPS P200s- it was beautiful and it was worth every penny.  Just like many of your other customers I became a Dell salesman to other members of my family because of the QUALITY of your products. I probably made you tens of thousands of dollars.
Sadly, Dell became a greedy Fortune 500 corporation and lost its way. 
My biggest complaint: You outsourced AMERICAN jobs to INDIA (At a time when Americans need new [non-minimum wage] jobs). As a result you screwed your loyal customers just to save a few bucks. You delivered an INFERIOR product - and look what it cost you, you are now number two behind HP (I started buying HP around the time you started to suck hardcore). 
When I call Nintendo (you know, the Japanese Corporation, Nintendo) the tech support is polite, well spoken AMERICANS. They donâ€™t mind paying Americans 20 dollars an hour, because they respect their customers. Can I just ask what the hell is wrong with you people? 
Let me digress briefly - your greedy and deceitful policies speak to a larger problem in this country:
I grew up in Dearborn, Michigan; as you may all know, the once almighty Ford Motor Corporation is centered here. The Rouge plant was once the largest factory on the planet. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Rouge_Plant. 
It was a testament to American ingenuity and vision. Ford invented the 5 dollar day and invented the American middle class. The same American middle class that is now under siege.
I am aware that the poor management of the Big Three after WW II is responsible for their fortunes. However, let me say that every other greedy corporation that outsourced hard working American labor and EXPLOITS the impoverished people of INDIA AND CHINA, erodes the American middle class. Why? All so that Michael Dell can be worth 15.8 billion rather than what? 12 billion? 10 billion? How many billions does he need? How many millions of loyal Americans must he RIP-OFF? How many thousands of Dell employees must he LAYOFF? 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18967391/
When we call tech support and can't understand the person we are being robbed; we are not receiving the quality of service that we paid our hard earned money for. All potential Dell customers should remember that. Dell management including Lionel Menchaca, Digital Media Manager is just a bunch of thieves in suits. Digital Media Manager = Minister of Propaganda 
PS I doubt that fat pig Michael Dell ever considers anything that doesnâ€™t make him a profit. And before you talk about all the millions he donates to charityâ€¦THATâ€™S A TAX WRITE OFF.
Iâ€™m not a very good writer, but I hope people can see my point of view</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought my first Dell in 1996 after working all summer, not playing with my friends, and saving everything I earned when I was 14 years old. It was a Dell Dimension XPS P200s- it was beautiful and it was worth every penny.  Just like many of your other customers I became a Dell salesman to other members of my family because of the QUALITY of your products. I probably made you tens of thousands of dollars.<br />
Sadly, Dell became a greedy Fortune 500 corporation and lost its way.<br />
My biggest complaint: You outsourced AMERICAN jobs to INDIA (At a time when Americans need new [non-minimum wage] jobs). As a result you screwed your loyal customers just to save a few bucks. You delivered an INFERIOR product - and look what it cost you, you are now number two behind HP (I started buying HP around the time you started to suck hardcore).<br />
When I call Nintendo (you know, the Japanese Corporation, Nintendo) the tech support is polite, well spoken AMERICANS. They donâ€™t mind paying Americans 20 dollars an hour, because they respect their customers. Can I just ask what the hell is wrong with you people?<br />
Let me digress briefly - your greedy and deceitful policies speak to a larger problem in this country:<br />
I grew up in Dearborn, Michigan; as you may all know, the once almighty Ford Motor Corporation is centered here. The Rouge plant was once the largest factory on the planet.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Rouge_Plant" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Rouge_Plant</a>.<br />
It was a testament to American ingenuity and vision. Ford invented the 5 dollar day and invented the American middle class. The same American middle class that is now under siege.<br />
I am aware that the poor management of the Big Three after WW II is responsible for their fortunes. However, let me say that every other greedy corporation that outsourced hard working American labor and EXPLOITS the impoverished people of INDIA AND CHINA, erodes the American middle class. Why? All so that Michael Dell can be worth 15.8 billion rather than what? 12 billion? 10 billion? How many billions does he need? How many millions of loyal Americans must he RIP-OFF? How many thousands of Dell employees must he LAYOFF?<br />
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18967391/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18967391/</a><br />
When we call tech support and can&#8217;t understand the person we are being robbed; we are not receiving the quality of service that we paid our hard earned money for. All potential Dell customers should remember that. Dell management including Lionel Menchaca, Digital Media Manager is just a bunch of thieves in suits. Digital Media Manager = Minister of Propaganda<br />
PS I doubt that fat pig Michael Dell ever considers anything that doesnâ€™t make him a profit. And before you talk about all the millions he donates to charityâ€¦THATâ€™S A TAX WRITE OFF.<br />
Iâ€™m not a very good writer, but I hope people can see my point of view</p>
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		<title>By: Dell forgets to think first, thinks last&#8230; forced to apologize &#160;&#187;Technology News &#124; Venture Capital, Startups, Silicon Valley, Web 2.0 Tech</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351553</link>
		<dc:creator>Dell forgets to think first, thinks last&#8230; forced to apologize &#160;&#187;Technology News &#124; Venture Capital, Startups, Silicon Valley, Web 2.0 Tech</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] people here and here seem to think Dell did a good job in apologizing. Ars Technica notes that they receive [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell&#8217;s angels</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351550</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Dell&#8217;s angels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 20:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine by Jeff Jarvis--&#62;      &#171; Poor Dell [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Glenn (Customer Service Experience) Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351547</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn (Customer Service Experience) Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell is getting better, grading on a curve since they're a larger corporation, they're actually improving fairly fast. But as you point out, they still have a way to go. 

I'm with you on the transparancy issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell is getting better, grading on a curve since they&#8217;re a larger corporation, they&#8217;re actually improving fairly fast. But as you point out, they still have a way to go. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with you on the transparancy issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351545</link>
		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have bought 3 used Dell laptops and 5 new desktops off eBay, and have never had a single issue with any of them, unless something really bad happened to them (one was hit by lightning).  The laptop I'm using now, Inspiron 8000, was at least a year old when I got it, and it's still going strong after 5+ years in my ownership.  I'm going to buy a new one this time, because I graduated and now I need a real screamer for my application.

My first one, a Latitude, (Windows 95 machine) worked perfectly until I allowed my then-third-grader to take it to school for a presentation.  He got it home safely, but left it on the edge of the kitchen table, it fell to the tile floor, the CD drive popped out and the ribbon cable looked like it had torn off.  The machine looked mangled.  It wouldn't boot - I thought it was a goner.  I finally realized that I couldn't hurt it, since it was already broken, so I took it apart and looked more closely at the CD tray.  The ribbon cable was not torn, it had just come unplugged from the clamp that holds it.  I reclamped it, then gave a healthy shove to the CD tray to put it back in.  Voila!  Booted up and ran perfectly until I was in a wreck and it went flying.  Even with a cracked screen, it booted fine. I bought a couple of "parts only" Latitudes from eBay to try to fix it.  It started working again.  All the software changes finally made a Win 95 machine obsolete, so I quit using it.  

This is why I'm a die-hard Dell buyer.  If you can drop a Dell laptop on a tile floor, and it keeps on working, you should have a very good reason to buy some other brand.  Of course, since all my used machines have run perfectly, I've never had to deal with any Customer Service reps.  Maybe when I get my new one I'll have the problems everyone else seems to have, but hey, if a machine never has problems, you never have to call Customer Support, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have bought 3 used Dell laptops and 5 new desktops off eBay, and have never had a single issue with any of them, unless something really bad happened to them (one was hit by lightning).  The laptop I&#8217;m using now, Inspiron 8000, was at least a year old when I got it, and it&#8217;s still going strong after 5+ years in my ownership.  I&#8217;m going to buy a new one this time, because I graduated and now I need a real screamer for my application.</p>
<p>My first one, a Latitude, (Windows 95 machine) worked perfectly until I allowed my then-third-grader to take it to school for a presentation.  He got it home safely, but left it on the edge of the kitchen table, it fell to the tile floor, the CD drive popped out and the ribbon cable looked like it had torn off.  The machine looked mangled.  It wouldn&#8217;t boot - I thought it was a goner.  I finally realized that I couldn&#8217;t hurt it, since it was already broken, so I took it apart and looked more closely at the CD tray.  The ribbon cable was not torn, it had just come unplugged from the clamp that holds it.  I reclamped it, then gave a healthy shove to the CD tray to put it back in.  Voila!  Booted up and ran perfectly until I was in a wreck and it went flying.  Even with a cracked screen, it booted fine. I bought a couple of &#8220;parts only&#8221; Latitudes from eBay to try to fix it.  It started working again.  All the software changes finally made a Win 95 machine obsolete, so I quit using it.  </p>
<p>This is why I&#8217;m a die-hard Dell buyer.  If you can drop a Dell laptop on a tile floor, and it keeps on working, you should have a very good reason to buy some other brand.  Of course, since all my used machines have run perfectly, I&#8217;ve never had to deal with any Customer Service reps.  Maybe when I get my new one I&#8217;ll have the problems everyone else seems to have, but hey, if a machine never has problems, you never have to call Customer Support, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: W^L+</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351544</link>
		<dc:creator>W^L+</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 17:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell has a lot more to worry about than trying to get the highest price from those who already want to buy from them.  Just from my own experience, I'd say that their service is so bad that they are driving their customers to competitors like HP and Gateway (which have their own problems, so this indicates that Dell's issues are severe).  Most of the same problems you dealt with are still present today.

Dell is a victim of its own success.  Becoming a big corporation means that the company is likely to view its customers as foes, rather than allies.  Financing was formerly a way to help more people afford Dell's products, but is now a separate profit center.  Their best bet now is to jettison DFS and let the market provide financing.  DFS is driving away repeat business, as people burned by DFS resolve to avoid Dell.

Even Dell's Linux and OpenOffice moves (the things they learned from IdeaStorm) are too tentative for the audience they hope to reach.  In a market that is eagerly seeking alternatives to Vista, Dell is throwing away the chance to be *the* new PC option for non-Vistalistas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell has a lot more to worry about than trying to get the highest price from those who already want to buy from them.  Just from my own experience, I&#8217;d say that their service is so bad that they are driving their customers to competitors like HP and Gateway (which have their own problems, so this indicates that Dell&#8217;s issues are severe).  Most of the same problems you dealt with are still present today.</p>
<p>Dell is a victim of its own success.  Becoming a big corporation means that the company is likely to view its customers as foes, rather than allies.  Financing was formerly a way to help more people afford Dell&#8217;s products, but is now a separate profit center.  Their best bet now is to jettison DFS and let the market provide financing.  DFS is driving away repeat business, as people burned by DFS resolve to avoid Dell.</p>
<p>Even Dell&#8217;s Linux and OpenOffice moves (the things they learned from IdeaStorm) are too tentative for the audience they hope to reach.  In a market that is eagerly seeking alternatives to Vista, Dell is throwing away the chance to be *the* new PC option for non-Vistalistas.</p>
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		<title>By: G Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351541</link>
		<dc:creator>G Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WELL YEAH, SORTA.

I do agree that Dell is taking some steps in the right direction, but at other times, like this newest Consumerist flap, they're still the same ol' Dell.

And I have to say that Lionel Menchaca's mea clupa doesn't ring with sincerity as much as it rings with, uh, thoroughly-vetted spin. 

I'd like to see Dell return to better days and better relations with consumers, but then again I'd like to see Google or Tivo return to being responsible corporate citizens.  I don't think behemoths can be as good as they were in the past, although they may become more influential in appearance management.

And as long as my most effective weapon is my wallet, I intend to use it.  Pay attention Messrs. Menchaca and Dell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL YEAH, SORTA.</p>
<p>I do agree that Dell is taking some steps in the right direction, but at other times, like this newest Consumerist flap, they&#8217;re still the same ol&#8217; Dell.</p>
<p>And I have to say that Lionel Menchaca&#8217;s mea clupa doesn&#8217;t ring with sincerity as much as it rings with, uh, thoroughly-vetted spin. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see Dell return to better days and better relations with consumers, but then again I&#8217;d like to see Google or Tivo return to being responsible corporate citizens.  I don&#8217;t think behemoths can be as good as they were in the past, although they may become more influential in appearance management.</p>
<p>And as long as my most effective weapon is my wallet, I intend to use it.  Pay attention Messrs. Menchaca and Dell.</p>
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		<title>By: Mobility Site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Confessions of a Dell Digital Media Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351535</link>
		<dc:creator>Mobility Site &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Confessions of a Dell Digital Media Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] blogged about it, and even more still after we asked them to remove it.In this case, I agree with what Jeff Jarvis had to say: instead of trying to control information that was made public, we should have simply [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] blogged about it, and even more still after we asked them to remove it.In this case, I agree with what Jeff Jarvis had to say: instead of trying to control information that was made public, we should have simply [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mack Collier</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351532</link>
		<dc:creator>Mack Collier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 06:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to touch on what Philippe mentioned, Dell's Direct2Dell blog was the latest blog I covered in my Company Blog Checkup series.  During my post, I pointed out that Dell should add BuzzMachine to its blogroll.  A Dell rep contacted me later that day to let me know that BuzzMachine had been added, after they read my post.

I think Dell is like many companies, in that the balance of power has just been violently shoved in the customer's direction, and they didn't get the memo.  So they are struggling to come to grips with this new reality, while wanting to cling to the old. 

But you mentioned that "If other companies are smart, theyâ€™re sitting back and watching..."  

I think the smart companies are the ones that are in these waters and making smallish missteps now, as those errors will be whoppers if they sit back watching long enough.

I think Dell deserves criticism when they make missteps with social media, as does any other company.  But I think we also owe it to them, ourselves, and this medium, to make sure that the criticism is constructive, and tempered with the knowledge that that are at least in these waters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to touch on what Philippe mentioned, Dell&#8217;s Direct2Dell blog was the latest blog I covered in my Company Blog Checkup series.  During my post, I pointed out that Dell should add BuzzMachine to its blogroll.  A Dell rep contacted me later that day to let me know that BuzzMachine had been added, after they read my post.</p>
<p>I think Dell is like many companies, in that the balance of power has just been violently shoved in the customer&#8217;s direction, and they didn&#8217;t get the memo.  So they are struggling to come to grips with this new reality, while wanting to cling to the old. </p>
<p>But you mentioned that &#8220;If other companies are smart, theyâ€™re sitting back and watching&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>I think the smart companies are the ones that are in these waters and making smallish missteps now, as those errors will be whoppers if they sit back watching long enough.</p>
<p>I think Dell deserves criticism when they make missteps with social media, as does any other company.  But I think we also owe it to them, ourselves, and this medium, to make sure that the criticism is constructive, and tempered with the knowledge that that are at least in these waters.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351528</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 03:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am typing this on a Dell 640m laptop, that I love (in spite of Vista).  However, I waited and waited to buy because I was never sure I was getting the best price - and I wanted the best price.  Between the myriad websites touting Dell deals and Dell's multiple badging of the same hardware, it's tough to know what's what on any given day.

I found Dell's website, which should make the experience easier, made it more difficult!  Choices of configurations were often arbitrary.  This machine could have any Vista - except Home Premium... the one I wanted.

I'm a stockholder.  I want Dell to do better.  i don't want customers to think of them as putzes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am typing this on a Dell 640m laptop, that I love (in spite of Vista).  However, I waited and waited to buy because I was never sure I was getting the best price - and I wanted the best price.  Between the myriad websites touting Dell deals and Dell&#8217;s multiple badging of the same hardware, it&#8217;s tough to know what&#8217;s what on any given day.</p>
<p>I found Dell&#8217;s website, which should make the experience easier, made it more difficult!  Choices of configurations were often arbitrary.  This machine could have any Vista - except Home Premium&#8230; the one I wanted.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a stockholder.  I want Dell to do better.  i don&#8217;t want customers to think of them as putzes</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Owyang</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351524</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Owyang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 01:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dell has come a looong way.  I'm sure this will be corrected.  Looks like they're taking some corrective action, as you know from meeting Lionel a few weeks ago, he's a customer advocate.

http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/06/16/18397.aspx


I'm tracking the whole saga (or at least the highlights) from this post

http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/02/25/social-media-saga-continues-as-company-advances-towards-dell-swell/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dell has come a looong way.  I&#8217;m sure this will be corrected.  Looks like they&#8217;re taking some corrective action, as you know from meeting Lionel a few weeks ago, he&#8217;s a customer advocate.</p>
<p><a href="http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/06/16/18397.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/06/16/18397.aspx</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m tracking the whole saga (or at least the highlights) from this post</p>
<p><a href="http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/02/25/social-media-saga-continues-as-company-advances-towards-dell-swell/" rel="nofollow">http://www.web-strategist.com/blog/2007/02/25/social-media-saga-continues-as-company-advances-towards-dell-swell/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Philippe</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/16/poor-dell/#comment-351514</link>
		<dc:creator>Philippe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Dell deserves credit and respect.

To give another example of Dell's responsiveness, have a look at Mack Collier's post about Dell's blog (and again, the comments by the Dell reps): http://moblogsmoproblems.blogspot.com/2007/06/company-blog-checkup-dell.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Dell deserves credit and respect.</p>
<p>To give another example of Dell&#8217;s responsiveness, have a look at Mack Collier&#8217;s post about Dell&#8217;s blog (and again, the comments by the Dell reps): <a href="http://moblogsmoproblems.blogspot.com/2007/06/company-blog-checkup-dell.html" rel="nofollow">http://moblogsmoproblems.blogspot.com/2007/06/company-blog-checkup-dell.html</a></p>
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