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	<title>Comments on: Dell&#8217;s angels</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: JustAThought</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-354533</link>
		<dc:creator>JustAThought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't have a problem with Dell protecting their Sales processes and internal tactics.  Why is it a first amendment right to learn about a company's processes and then post them out on the web for everyone to see.  It was pretty easy for Dell to drop the issue since most of the tips were not really company secrets (who really pays retail for anything?) but I am interested to see what happens in the future when other disgruntled employees decide to extend the blog rights.  Should companies have to loose trade secrets because a person has a right to Blog?

The Dell lawyer action was a little much but so was the Economist action in trying to gear up a boycott when nothing really happened but a threatening email.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with Dell protecting their Sales processes and internal tactics.  Why is it a first amendment right to learn about a company&#8217;s processes and then post them out on the web for everyone to see.  It was pretty easy for Dell to drop the issue since most of the tips were not really company secrets (who really pays retail for anything?) but I am interested to see what happens in the future when other disgruntled employees decide to extend the blog rights.  Should companies have to loose trade secrets because a person has a right to Blog?</p>
<p>The Dell lawyer action was a little much but so was the Economist action in trying to gear up a boycott when nothing really happened but a threatening email.</p>
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		<title>By: RichardatDELL</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-351936</link>
		<dc:creator>RichardatDELL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 19:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Appreciate the feedback across the web, both before and after....Jeff, as you know we responded on Friday to customers at Dell's Ideastorm...another indicator about how all this works in terms of the voice of customers.

We live and learn, and have some gaffes and some successes....we are listening and learning so thank you to all.

As for the 23, not bbeing defensive....understand we all have out own tak on these issues.  Just so you know we thought we would try and poke some fun at ourselves and be light....sorry some didnt see it that way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Appreciate the feedback across the web, both before and after&#8230;.Jeff, as you know we responded on Friday to customers at Dell&#8217;s Ideastorm&#8230;another indicator about how all this works in terms of the voice of customers.</p>
<p>We live and learn, and have some gaffes and some successes&#8230;.we are listening and learning so thank you to all.</p>
<p>As for the 23, not bbeing defensive&#8230;.understand we all have out own tak on these issues.  Just so you know we thought we would try and poke some fun at ourselves and be light&#8230;.sorry some didnt see it that way</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Sernovitz's Damn, I Wish I'd Thought of That!</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-351647</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Sernovitz's Damn, I Wish I'd Thought of That!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 15:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;My day at Dell, part 2...&lt;/strong&gt;

One of the highlights is talking with Lionel Menchaca and his team. They have cool jobs and they are totally into it. They surf the web, they find conversation about Dell, and they join in. They talk to a lot...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>My day at Dell, part 2&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>One of the highlights is talking with Lionel Menchaca and his team. They have cool jobs and they are totally into it. They surf the web, they find conversation about Dell, and they join in. They talk to a lot&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-351639</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree about the sales pitch.

The letter from the Dell attorney and Gawker Media's &lt;a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/backend/dell-demands-takedown-of-our-22-confessions-of-a-former-dell-sales-manager-269127.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;response&lt;/a&gt; are Internet law classics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree about the sales pitch.</p>
<p>The letter from the Dell attorney and Gawker Media&#8217;s <a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/backend/dell-demands-takedown-of-our-22-confessions-of-a-former-dell-sales-manager-269127.php" rel="nofollow">response</a> are Internet law classics.</p>
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		<title>By: Dwight Silverman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-351574</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwight Silverman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 04:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admire Lionel for his mea culpa. That needed to be done. 

But what didn't need to be done was the 22 other items, which essentially amounts to a sales pitch. "Now that I have your attention, let me sell you something . . . "

I have to take exception with Jeff's characterization of the rest of the post. Lionel would have been a lot better off just saying, "Yeah, we blew it" and walking off stage. Instead, we got an infomercial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admire Lionel for his mea culpa. That needed to be done. </p>
<p>But what didn&#8217;t need to be done was the 22 other items, which essentially amounts to a sales pitch. &#8220;Now that I have your attention, let me sell you something . . . &#8221;</p>
<p>I have to take exception with Jeff&#8217;s characterization of the rest of the post. Lionel would have been a lot better off just saying, &#8220;Yeah, we blew it&#8221; and walking off stage. Instead, we got an infomercial.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/06/17/dells-angels/#comment-351571</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 03:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A blog is a first amendment machine.

What stands out for me is that Lionel Menchaca followed the logic of what he was doing as Dell's blogger to that conclusion.  I &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; to speak out about this.  Let's get real: we blew it.

He then reverse company course all by himself, in his post.

"I believe in the customer voiceâ€”thatâ€™s why I signed up for this job in the first place."  In order to keep that belief he had to use his own voice and tell Dell.

You say "throws himself on his sword."  I say he's testing what free speech means to Dell, how much they need it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blog is a first amendment machine.</p>
<p>What stands out for me is that Lionel Menchaca followed the logic of what he was doing as Dell&#8217;s blogger to that conclusion.  I <i>have</i> to speak out about this.  Let&#8217;s get real: we blew it.</p>
<p>He then reverse company course all by himself, in his post.</p>
<p>&#8220;I believe in the customer voiceâ€”thatâ€™s why I signed up for this job in the first place.&#8221;  In order to keep that belief he had to use his own voice and tell Dell.</p>
<p>You say &#8220;throws himself on his sword.&#8221;  I say he&#8217;s testing what free speech means to Dell, how much they need it.</p>
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