Comments on: Facebook is not the new AOL http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/ by Jeff Jarvis Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:57:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Is Facebook the New AOL… or a Universal Velvet Rope? ~ Web Wahala http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-375433 Is Facebook the New AOL… or a Universal Velvet Rope? ~ Web Wahala Thu, 22 May 2008 03:50:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-375433 [...] there are just as many prominent web figures on the rebuttal [...] [...] there are just as many prominent web figures on the rebuttal [...]

]]> By: Facebook vs AOL vs Commerce « Kassenzone - Commerce, Mobile, Technologie http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-372407 Facebook vs AOL vs Commerce « Kassenzone - Commerce, Mobile, Technologie Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:16:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-372407 [...] führte zu diversen Reaktionen, bei der eine Meinung von Jeff Jarvis besonders hervorsticht: AOL was closed to give AOL control over us and our money. [...] [...] führte zu diversen Reaktionen, bei der eine Meinung von Jeff Jarvis besonders hervorsticht: AOL was closed to give AOL control over us and our money. [...]

]]> By: ethomaz » Socialistics http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-363323 ethomaz » Socialistics Thu, 15 Nov 2007 14:27:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-363323 [...] Facebook is very well put together, from an interface point of view - it’s consistent and predictable. The one thing I really dislike about it though is that it’s a completely closed network. Maybe back when it was essentially a college student network, blocking outside access was a good idea. Doing that now just seems a bit backwards, a bit AOL-ish, as some have said. Others disagree. [...] [...] Facebook is very well put together, from an interface point of view – it’s consistent and predictable. The one thing I really dislike about it though is that it’s a completely closed network. Maybe back when it was essentially a college student network, blocking outside access was a good idea. Doing that now just seems a bit backwards, a bit AOL-ish, as some have said. Others disagree. [...]

]]> By: Vox Populi » Blog Archive » Facebook announces new, sneaky ads http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-358185 Vox Populi » Blog Archive » Facebook announces new, sneaky ads Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:03:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-358185 [...] Harry Potter quotes or being spammed by Honesty Box. Still, everyone from nerds to journalism professors loved it. The only problem is that Facebook doesn’t have a killer revenue model, despite [...] [...] Harry Potter quotes or being spammed by Honesty Box. Still, everyone from nerds to journalism professors loved it. The only problem is that Facebook doesn’t have a killer revenue model, despite [...]

]]> By: zac echola http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354576 zac echola Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:18:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354576 When are people going to finally figure out that granular privacy is the greatest thing to ever happen on the Internet? I can have a "real" identity online as well as control my image to a great degree. I present one persona to my grandmother with a computer via facebook, but a completely different persona to my friends...just like I would in real life. The platform does all this and if it doesn't it will through harnessing the long tail. Facebook can now work on what really matters to them: getting their users to actually click an advert. When are people going to finally figure out that granular privacy is the greatest thing to ever happen on the Internet? I can have a “real” identity online as well as control my image to a great degree. I present one persona to my grandmother with a computer via facebook, but a completely different persona to my friends…just like I would in real life.

The platform does all this and if it doesn’t it will through harnessing the long tail. Facebook can now work on what really matters to them: getting their users to actually click an advert.

]]> By: Marc http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354497 Marc Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:35:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354497 I have been making the case for Facebook being like AOL for months in the comments of various blogs. Since you don't agree and are under the influence, I won't bother expounding. Looks like a few prominent bloggers must have agreed with me. I have been making the case for Facebook being like AOL for months in the comments of various blogs. Since you don’t agree and are under the influence, I won’t bother expounding. Looks like a few prominent bloggers must have agreed with me.

]]> By: UpsideDownHE http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354464 UpsideDownHE Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:30:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354464 <strong>Jeff Jarvis explains why Facebook is so compelling...</strong> Ok...somebody explain this to me. You market, service, and educate the Facebook generation, yet when I speak at conferences about Facebook, social networking, and the like, it's still a great mystery to many. Here's a tip...go to Facebook.com and mak... Jeff Jarvis explains why Facebook is so compelling…

Ok…somebody explain this to me. You market, service, and educate the Facebook generation, yet when I speak at conferences about Facebook, social networking, and the like, it’s still a great mystery to many. Here’s a tip…go to Facebook.com and mak…

]]> By: Dan Melinger http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354262 Dan Melinger Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:32:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354262 Social networks are infrastructure for the social applications built on top of them. With Flickr, it's about photos, with last.fm, it's music, with my product - Socialight - it's the places you go. Facebook began as a way to communicate directly with with people at your school and has grown to be much more than that. They - intelligently - have realized that it's more powerful to own the platform than the applications. In my opinion, the ideal social network "platform" would be a trusted, open one that no single company owns or controls. However, since no one's been able to accomplish that yet (not for a lack of trying) and Facebook already has a critical mass of users, it's the next best thing. I'll come down on the "is it like AOL?" argument in the middle, though. It's like a more open web2.0-y AOL. Unlike on AOL, anyone can build an application (and thus a business) on Facebook, but Facebook still controls the experience and you've got to pay the toll - through granting access to your users' valuable actions and eyeballs - to play. Social networks are infrastructure for the social applications built on top of them. With Flickr, it’s about photos, with last.fm, it’s music, with my product – Socialight – it’s the places you go. Facebook began as a way to communicate directly with with people at your school and has grown to be much more than that. They – intelligently – have realized that it’s more powerful to own the platform than the applications.

In my opinion, the ideal social network “platform” would be a trusted, open one that no single company owns or controls. However, since no one’s been able to accomplish that yet (not for a lack of trying) and Facebook already has a critical mass of users, it’s the next best thing. I’ll come down on the “is it like AOL?” argument in the middle, though. It’s like a more open web2.0-y AOL. Unlike on AOL, anyone can build an application (and thus a business) on Facebook, but Facebook still controls the experience and you’ve got to pay the toll – through granting access to your users’ valuable actions and eyeballs – to play.

]]> By: Cybez http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354121 Cybez Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:05:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354121 Jeff, you said <i>It needs to let me export and open to the world more of my faces. It needs to let me import more of my identity from elsewhere on the internet. It needs to help me organize and present that better.</i> Would you expand on that. I've the Flog application to show updated snippets from my blog, flickr photo's,contact details etc etc on my Facebook and haven't yet checked out all the applications on Facebook.At present I'm happy with what's available. Jeff, you said
It needs to let me export and open to the world more of my faces. It needs to let me import more of my identity from elsewhere on the internet. It needs to help me organize and present that better.
Would you expand on that.
I’ve the Flog application to show updated snippets from my blog, flickr photo’s,contact details etc etc on my Facebook and haven’t yet checked out all the applications on Facebook.At present I’m happy with what’s available.

]]> By: John Newland http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354092 John Newland Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:52:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354092 Jeff, I've been reading your blog for some time, but this is my first comment. I love the idea of being able to decide which parts of our personal world get shared with who on the 'net. I had never thought of it quite that way before. Maybe I should give Facebook more consideration....xoxoxo JohnOnSales Jeff, I’ve been reading your blog for some time, but this is my first comment. I love the idea of being able to decide which parts of our personal world get shared with who on the ‘net. I had never thought of it quite that way before. Maybe I should give Facebook more consideration….xoxoxo JohnOnSales

]]> By: Linus Kendall http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354091 Linus Kendall Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:51:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/02/facebook-is-not-the-new-aol/#comment-354091 I think that you're right in that it's not exactly comparable to AOL, but in general - the thing about not opening up is something that in the end (as people use more and more services online) I think that this will have a real, serious negative impact on facebook.. For me, all content that I provide on facebook I constantly need to publish on other sources as well - in order to get it to my other online communities. Say it would be completely open - then I would be much more eager to publish only on facebook and then just link to it from all other places. I think that you’re right in that it’s not exactly comparable to AOL, but in general – the thing about not opening up is something that in the end (as people use more and more services online) I think that this will have a real, serious negative impact on facebook..

For me, all content that I provide on facebook I constantly need to publish on other sources as well – in order to get it to my other online communities. Say it would be completely open – then I would be much more eager to publish only on facebook and then just link to it from all other places.

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