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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Hayashi</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-355184</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Hayashi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Orren is spot on in talking about the sustainability of local news ... whatever the beat, there's got to be the consumer and advertising audience there to support them. 

After having been on this rollercoaster ride of exuberance and despair for now 19 years, dating back to the early days of CD-ROM and interactive TV, we are closer than ever to the networked world that Jeff writes so eloquently about...but it's not going to be exactly what we expect. It's not about delivering content, it's about having access -- real, sustained access -- to sources whose reputations are/will be built up over time. As we migrate from daily to real-time publications, perhaps the business model becomes about who can make the connections to make things happen, not who can write the story about what just happened. 

Facebook, by opening up its API, is enabling a thousand flowers to bloom. 

(...I do wonder, though, about the role of news bureaus in this vague new world. IMHO, the closure of international news bureaus leads to fewer resources who know the lay of the land and the backgrounds of the local personalities...and without their presence, and those like them, I feel we are losing the multiple points of perspective that lead to better investigative journalism. But that's a point for another day.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Orren is spot on in talking about the sustainability of local news &#8230; whatever the beat, there&#8217;s got to be the consumer and advertising audience there to support them. </p>
<p>After having been on this rollercoaster ride of exuberance and despair for now 19 years, dating back to the early days of CD-ROM and interactive TV, we are closer than ever to the networked world that Jeff writes so eloquently about&#8230;but it&#8217;s not going to be exactly what we expect. It&#8217;s not about delivering content, it&#8217;s about having access &#8212; real, sustained access &#8212; to sources whose reputations are/will be built up over time. As we migrate from daily to real-time publications, perhaps the business model becomes about who can make the connections to make things happen, not who can write the story about what just happened. </p>
<p>Facebook, by opening up its API, is enabling a thousand flowers to bloom. </p>
<p>(&#8230;I do wonder, though, about the role of news bureaus in this vague new world. IMHO, the closure of international news bureaus leads to fewer resources who know the lay of the land and the backgrounds of the local personalities&#8230;and without their presence, and those like them, I feel we are losing the multiple points of perspective that lead to better investigative journalism. But that&#8217;s a point for another day.)</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; You can't own conversation&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354804</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; You can't own conversation&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] site. It needs to end up being all those things and more. And as I said the other day, this will not happen in one place, on one site, but will be distributed across wherever people are being people and communities [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] site. It needs to end up being all those things and more. And as I said the other day, this will not happen in one place, on one site, but will be distributed across wherever people are being people and communities [...]</p>
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		<title>By: media mindshare: on news, technology &#38; media relations Print to digital migration &#38; new metrics to measure by &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354610</link>
		<dc:creator>media mindshare: on news, technology &#38; media relations Print to digital migration &#38; new metrics to measure by &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The local challenge Jeff Jarvis of Buzzmachine.com and CUNY&#8217;s Grad J-School looks at the implications for local news. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-07-10 at Framtider.net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354536</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-07-10 at Framtider.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» The local challenge (tags: toread) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: media mindshare: on news, technology &#38; media relations It&#8217;s been a coupla hyperlocal news kinda days &#8230; &#171;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354532</link>
		<dc:creator>media mindshare: on news, technology &#38; media relations It&#8217;s been a coupla hyperlocal news kinda days &#8230; &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The local challenge Jeff Javris of Buzzmachine.com and CUNY&#8217;s Grad J-School looks at the implications for local news. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ross Notes &#187; &#8220;nobody has figured out yet how to make a successful, scalable business out of hyperlocal&#8221;, and bootstrapping the Mclean Blogosphere</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354509</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross Notes &#187; &#8220;nobody has figured out yet how to make a successful, scalable business out of hyperlocal&#8221;, and bootstrapping the Mclean Blogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] see also: Jeff Jarvis on The Local Challenge. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-07-09 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354503</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-07-09 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» The local challenge &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; (tags: internet participatory journalism hyperlocal citizenmedia community newspapers) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine Â» Blog Archive Â» The local challenge &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; (tags: internet participatory journalism hyperlocal citizenmedia community newspapers) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Converge &#187; It&#8217;s the Databases, Stupid</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354384</link>
		<dc:creator>Converge &#187; It&#8217;s the Databases, Stupid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 16:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] includes comments from Jeff Jarvis and Mike Orren, who point out the value of the content, but also the challenge of getting people [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The local challenge &#8212; Internet Advertising Methods</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354366</link>
		<dc:creator>The local challenge &#8212; Internet Advertising Methods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have something worth gathering? After trying one of everything in hyperlocal,    source: The local challenge, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: &#160; Local is important but only the BBC can do it&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354362</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; Local is important but only the BBC can do it&#160;by&#160;andydickinson.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis picks up on this point as he laments the &#8221; long-time-coming closing of Backfence&#8221; and in explaining the necessity for sites like Backfence highlights a model for collaboration: Newspapers will produce journalism, I hope. Individual bloggers will produce reporting, I hope. And people who are doing neither will want to contribute what they know to this pool of information without having to have their own sites. So we will need a combination of models and platforms: Newspapers will have local sites. Local bloggers will do their own thing. There is a need for group sites like Backfence or GoSkokie, which helped inspire it, where people can contribute. There is a need to organize all this; I hope Outside.in can do that (disclosure: Iâ€™m an adviser). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis picks up on this point as he laments the &#8221; long-time-coming closing of Backfence&#8221; and in explaining the necessity for sites like Backfence highlights a model for collaboration: Newspapers will produce journalism, I hope. Individual bloggers will produce reporting, I hope. And people who are doing neither will want to contribute what they know to this pool of information without having to have their own sites. So we will need a combination of models and platforms: Newspapers will have local sites. Local bloggers will do their own thing. There is a need for group sites like Backfence or GoSkokie, which helped inspire it, where people can contribute. There is a need to organize all this; I hope Outside.in can do that (disclosure: Iâ€™m an adviser). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Waghorn</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354352</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Waghorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the biggest issues has been the lack of local advertising networks to support hyperlocal news organizations. 

Spot on.

So we built our own. www.twadservices.co.uk. 

And now we're finding a market for just that type of structure - ie a hyper-local adify, doubleclick, etc - BUT with all the local trust, recognition etc that comes with having that run and serviced by the same, small town ad man that was working the local newspaper beat for 25 years.

And now, my pal who runs one of the best restaurants in the city www.lastwinebar.co.uk wants to embed advertising buttons/banners from his suppliers around his restaurant site with our ad network in support.

And we've got interest from the local music/club listings site; the University concert site, etc... local answer to a local need....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the biggest issues has been the lack of local advertising networks to support hyperlocal news organizations. </p>
<p>Spot on.</p>
<p>So we built our own. <a href="http://www.twadservices.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.twadservices.co.uk</a>. </p>
<p>And now we&#8217;re finding a market for just that type of structure - ie a hyper-local adify, doubleclick, etc - BUT with all the local trust, recognition etc that comes with having that run and serviced by the same, small town ad man that was working the local newspaper beat for 25 years.</p>
<p>And now, my pal who runs one of the best restaurants in the city <a href="http://www.lastwinebar.co.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.lastwinebar.co.uk</a> wants to embed advertising buttons/banners from his suppliers around his restaurant site with our ad network in support.</p>
<p>And we&#8217;ve got interest from the local music/club listings site; the University concert site, etc&#8230; local answer to a local need&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The dilemma: Hyperlocal news will open the floodgates of ad revenues tomorrow, but can&#8217;t keep Backfence afloat today &#171; The Future of News</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354342</link>
		<dc:creator>The dilemma: Hyperlocal news will open the floodgates of ad revenues tomorrow, but can&#8217;t keep Backfence afloat today &#171; The Future of News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 02:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] more. The problem is, how can the pioneers of hyperlocal news, like the now-folding Backfence (see Jeff Jarvis), stay solvent before the advertiser freak-out occurs? The bad news is they won&#8217;t. The good [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] more. The problem is, how can the pioneers of hyperlocal news, like the now-folding Backfence (see Jeff Jarvis), stay solvent before the advertiser freak-out occurs? The bad news is they won&#8217;t. The good [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Melinger</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354336</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Melinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the biggest issues has been the lack of local advertising networks to support hyperlocal news organizations. While a major news organization can sell its ad inventory directly and via premium networks, this doesn't make sense for hyperlocal outlets; it's usually inefficient to sell ads directly for a single local web property with its limited reach and narrower focus. Yes - they can tap into existing web ad networks, but the full potential of local advertising involves selling geographically-targeted, local ads often placed by local businesses. Once the ability exists for an advertiser to buy across multiple local outlets, things will change quickly. Even mom-and-pop shops will learn to buy a small number of valuable impressions or clicks across multiple local outlets.

The good news is that this will be a reality soon.  Demand for such a network is growing as hyperlocal and mobile media outlets - news and otherwise - come online. You can see it coming through Google, Yahoo, and even Nokia's recent announcements and acquisitions and I speak to small companies every week who are going after the opportunity in innovative ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the biggest issues has been the lack of local advertising networks to support hyperlocal news organizations. While a major news organization can sell its ad inventory directly and via premium networks, this doesn&#8217;t make sense for hyperlocal outlets; it&#8217;s usually inefficient to sell ads directly for a single local web property with its limited reach and narrower focus. Yes - they can tap into existing web ad networks, but the full potential of local advertising involves selling geographically-targeted, local ads often placed by local businesses. Once the ability exists for an advertiser to buy across multiple local outlets, things will change quickly. Even mom-and-pop shops will learn to buy a small number of valuable impressions or clicks across multiple local outlets.</p>
<p>The good news is that this will be a reality soon.  Demand for such a network is growing as hyperlocal and mobile media outlets - news and otherwise - come online. You can see it coming through Google, Yahoo, and even Nokia&#8217;s recent announcements and acquisitions and I speak to small companies every week who are going after the opportunity in innovative ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354331</link>
		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I alluded to the demise of Backfence in &lt;a href="http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1955" rel="nofollow"&gt;an interview&lt;/a&gt; I recently did. My general point was that so many of these hyperlocal sites lack one key component: sexiness. It's like they think you can throw up a "submit a story!" button and everything magically happens. No one is stating the obvious: too many of these hyperlocal sites are boring.

(I sold the hyperlocal site that I started, and it's still kicking quite nicely.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I alluded to the demise of Backfence in <a href="http://www.minnesotamonitor.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=1955" rel="nofollow">an interview</a> I recently did. My general point was that so many of these hyperlocal sites lack one key component: sexiness. It&#8217;s like they think you can throw up a &#8220;submit a story!&#8221; button and everything magically happens. No one is stating the obvious: too many of these hyperlocal sites are boring.</p>
<p>(I sold the hyperlocal site that I started, and it&#8217;s still kicking quite nicely.)</p>
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		<title>By: Open Parenthesis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354330</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Parenthesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;It takes a village - hyperlocal means not going it alone...&lt;/strong&gt;

Jeff Jarvis takes the occasion of the &#8220;long-time coming closing&#8221; of backfence  to talk broady about rhe Local Challenge:

Hyperlocal will not, I firmly believe, happen at one site. It will work only via networks: content, commercial, social...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It takes a village - hyperlocal means not going it alone&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Jeff Jarvis takes the occasion of the &#8220;long-time coming closing&#8221; of backfence  to talk broady about rhe Local Challenge:</p>
<p>Hyperlocal will not, I firmly believe, happen at one site. It will work only via networks: content, commercial, social&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Backfence is coming down &#124; backward five</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354316</link>
		<dc:creator>Backfence is coming down &#124; backward five</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis, a long-time proponent of networked journalism, weighs in, suggesting that the real lesson of hyperlocal is that &#8220;no one can do it alone&#8221;. He says the work has barely begun. I think we need a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Mastio</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354315</link>
		<dc:creator>David Mastio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 17:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are a few things that backfence, outsidein and others are missing in their hyper-local focus.

First, there doesn't appear to be enough interest at the neighborhood level to produce much user-generated content in the vast majority of places. For the moment, hyper local is a tad too local to succeed -- even when you're gathering in the content from many sources.

Second, to some extent the online community and the geographic community that co-exist in the real world may be different enough that a) the one can't/won't produce the right content for the other and b) the interest of the online community are just as much in learning about their digital neighbors as in learning about what street/school/fire issues will impact them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are a few things that backfence, outsidein and others are missing in their hyper-local focus.</p>
<p>First, there doesn&#8217;t appear to be enough interest at the neighborhood level to produce much user-generated content in the vast majority of places. For the moment, hyper local is a tad too local to succeed &#8212; even when you&#8217;re gathering in the content from many sources.</p>
<p>Second, to some extent the online community and the geographic community that co-exist in the real world may be different enough that a) the one can&#8217;t/won&#8217;t produce the right content for the other and b) the interest of the online community are just as much in learning about their digital neighbors as in learning about what street/school/fire issues will impact them.</p>
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		<title>By: Squeezing out the middle man</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354304</link>
		<dc:creator>Squeezing out the middle man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Buzzmachine: &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; Increasingly Jarvis argues &#8220;Individual bloggers will produce reporting&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Buzzmachine: &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; Increasingly Jarvis argues &#8220;Individual bloggers will produce reporting&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354303</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, Mike: but then you are right into what Jeff said: it's going to take a combination of systems.  

Anyway, I think you are on the right track for sure.

Here's PressThink's review of Backfence from 05, which got at some of these issues:

http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/11/30/lz_bcfc.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, Mike: but then you are right into what Jeff said: it&#8217;s going to take a combination of systems.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I think you are on the right track for sure.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s PressThink&#8217;s review of Backfence from 05, which got at some of these issues:</p>
<p><a href="http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/11/30/lz_bcfc.html" rel="nofollow">http://journalism.nyu.edu/pubzone/weblogs/pressthink/2005/11/30/lz_bcfc.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Orren</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354301</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Orren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"but one reporter per town isnâ€™t going to give people hyper-local news."

While I agree with your concepts Jay, in practice, I disagree with that statement, at least unqualified. One reporter per town, or five towns can give people hyper-local news, if we all let go of our Woodward &#38; Bernstein fantasies of what is news.

Our site has neighborhood maps of no more than a few miles radius with stories, events and garage sales plotted. Part of the way we do that is by mining city and school district sites for news in areas where there are no content partners or bloggers to work with.

It ain't glamorous, but if there's a temporary road closing near you, it's news. And you can't wait/depend on someone in that community to blog it. 

Where it gets cool though is that these trivial, government-supplied neighborhood stories, mixed with a little search engine mojo, become breadcrumbs for folks who come in the door, comment on what you got right/wrong, and then start contributing regularly with real narrative reporting. 

I won't kid you -- that's a slow process. And it takes a real farmer to cultivate that kind of participation. The seeding with "release" type news has to continue, because without a flow of content, there's no frequency and without frequency, today's item written by a member of the community won't be read or responded to...Meaning they won't be repeat contributors and you won't have a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;but one reporter per town isnâ€™t going to give people hyper-local news.&#8221;</p>
<p>While I agree with your concepts Jay, in practice, I disagree with that statement, at least unqualified. One reporter per town, or five towns can give people hyper-local news, if we all let go of our Woodward &amp; Bernstein fantasies of what is news.</p>
<p>Our site has neighborhood maps of no more than a few miles radius with stories, events and garage sales plotted. Part of the way we do that is by mining city and school district sites for news in areas where there are no content partners or bloggers to work with.</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t glamorous, but if there&#8217;s a temporary road closing near you, it&#8217;s news. And you can&#8217;t wait/depend on someone in that community to blog it. </p>
<p>Where it gets cool though is that these trivial, government-supplied neighborhood stories, mixed with a little search engine mojo, become breadcrumbs for folks who come in the door, comment on what you got right/wrong, and then start contributing regularly with real narrative reporting. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t kid you &#8212; that&#8217;s a slow process. And it takes a real farmer to cultivate that kind of participation. The seeding with &#8220;release&#8221; type news has to continue, because without a flow of content, there&#8217;s no frequency and without frequency, today&#8217;s item written by a member of the community won&#8217;t be read or responded to&#8230;Meaning they won&#8217;t be repeat contributors and you won&#8217;t have a business.</p>
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		<title>By: Invisible Inkling &#187; Just the FAQs, please</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354297</link>
		<dc:creator>Invisible Inkling &#187; Just the FAQs, please</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis on the Local Challenge: &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jeff Jarvis on the Local Challenge: &#8220;The biggest challenge facing local news organizations today is figuring out how they can gather more and produce less. That is, how can they help other people produce, so the news organizations have something worth gathering?&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Boriss</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354296</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Boriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Jay.  Of course, I just about always agree with Jay.  I'm starting to believe that hyperlocal is the inevitable future of the metro news outlets that survive, but it is also not ripe.  Once we have significant convergence of news onto the Internet, and all our metro papers and local TV stations are going to be forced to compete with everyone else online, most are not going to be able to pull it off.  Advertisers who still need to sell their cars, casinos, tires, fashions, and restaurants are going to need to find places to put their money, and hyperlocal will be born "overnight."  The time to experiment is now.  The time to make it work financially and traffic-wise is...who knows when?  (Steve Boriss, &lt;a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Future of News&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Jay.  Of course, I just about always agree with Jay.  I&#8217;m starting to believe that hyperlocal is the inevitable future of the metro news outlets that survive, but it is also not ripe.  Once we have significant convergence of news onto the Internet, and all our metro papers and local TV stations are going to be forced to compete with everyone else online, most are not going to be able to pull it off.  Advertisers who still need to sell their cars, casinos, tires, fashions, and restaurants are going to need to find places to put their money, and hyperlocal will be born &#8220;overnight.&#8221;  The time to experiment is now.  The time to make it work financially and traffic-wise is&#8230;who knows when?  (Steve Boriss, <a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow">The Future of News</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem on the newspaper side is that their idea of increased attention to local news didn't start from the user's needs as the given, but from newsroom staffing levels as they were prior to the supposed wake-up call: local, local, local. 

If what users want is &lt;i&gt;truly local news&lt;/i&gt; (in my case, when is the renovation of Washington Square Park going to begin, how long will it last, and where are my kids going to play while it's going on...?) then dropping your book columnist, eliminating movie reviews, and re-assigning all your national desk people to local news doesn't even come close to getting you there, even though it may seem like a radical re-structuring when you start with newsroom staffing as the given.  

Even assigning a single reporter to every one of the towns in a given circulation area is beyond the reach of most newspapers, but one reporter per town isn't going to give people &lt;i&gt;hyper&lt;/i&gt;-local news.   That's why Jeff is right that only overlapping systems working together can get this done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem on the newspaper side is that their idea of increased attention to local news didn&#8217;t start from the user&#8217;s needs as the given, but from newsroom staffing levels as they were prior to the supposed wake-up call: local, local, local. </p>
<p>If what users want is <i>truly local news</i> (in my case, when is the renovation of Washington Square Park going to begin, how long will it last, and where are my kids going to play while it&#8217;s going on&#8230;?) then dropping your book columnist, eliminating movie reviews, and re-assigning all your national desk people to local news doesn&#8217;t even come close to getting you there, even though it may seem like a radical re-structuring when you start with newsroom staffing as the given.  </p>
<p>Even assigning a single reporter to every one of the towns in a given circulation area is beyond the reach of most newspapers, but one reporter per town isn&#8217;t going to give people <i>hyper</i>-local news.   That&#8217;s why Jeff is right that only overlapping systems working together can get this done.</p>
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		<title>By: Paint peeling, weeds growing at Backfence &#187; mathewingram.com/work</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354290</link>
		<dc:creator>Paint peeling, weeds growing at Backfence &#187; mathewingram.com/work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] idea indeed. Any comment on that, Mr. Newmark? And Jeff Jarvis makes some good points in this post.  backfence, citizen journalism, local &#124;  Share This &#124;  Related [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] idea indeed. Any comment on that, Mr. Newmark? And Jeff Jarvis makes some good points in this post.  backfence, citizen journalism, local |  Share This |  Related [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Paint peeling, weeds growing at Backfence &#187; mathewingram.com/media</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/06/the-local-challenge/#comment-354289</link>
		<dc:creator>Paint peeling, weeds growing at Backfence &#187; mathewingram.com/media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] idea indeed. Any comment on that, Mr. Newmark? And Jeff Jarvis makes some good points in this post.  backfence, citizen journalism, local &#124;  Share [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] idea indeed. Any comment on that, Mr. Newmark? And Jeff Jarvis makes some good points in this post.  backfence, citizen journalism, local |  Share [...]</p>
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