Comments on: Howie & friends on Facebook http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/ by Jeff Jarvis Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:50:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: zac echola http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354577 zac echola Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:47:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354577 Facebook is the new email. It really is. And to respond to Kurtz's misguided comments about "sometimes racy photos": granular privacy. If my friends post racy photos, they have the option to target who gets to see those photos. Facebook is the new email. It really is.

And to respond to Kurtz’s misguided comments about “sometimes racy photos”: granular privacy. If my friends post racy photos, they have the option to target who gets to see those photos.

]]> By: Jersey Exile http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354566 Jersey Exile Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:10:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354566 The only thing less cool than Jeff gushing about Facebook is a twentysomething hipster-wannabe telling us how behind the times we all are. The only thing less cool than Jeff gushing about Facebook is a twentysomething hipster-wannabe telling us how behind the times we all are.

]]> By: Jack Jett http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354560 Jack Jett Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:26:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354560 Would someone ask Kurtz this question? Why do so many TV journalist let their guest get away with not answering their questions, but instead allow them to ramble on about White House talking points and never bring them back to the original question. I have never heard this discussed and I am a news junkie. Jack Jett www.jackejett.com Would someone ask Kurtz this question?

Why do so many TV journalist let their guest get away with not answering their questions, but instead allow them to ramble on about White House talking points and never bring them back to the original question.

I have never heard this discussed and I am a news junkie.

Jack Jett
http://www.jackejett.com

]]> By: mary http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354548 mary Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:34:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354548 you've gotten me hooked, Jeff. Thanks... I think? you’ve gotten me hooked, Jeff. Thanks… I think?

]]> By: I don’t believe it myself…but I want a Pownce invite. at James Cooney http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354521 I don’t believe it myself…but I want a Pownce invite. at James Cooney Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:51:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354521 [...] But that’s a post for another day. I haven’t used Myspace extensively in over a year.  Despite the Jeff Jarvis love, I can’t get behind Facebook.  I joined Jaiku, but pretty much run del.icio.us feeds into [...] [...] But that’s a post for another day. I haven’t used Myspace extensively in over a year.  Despite the Jeff Jarvis love, I can’t get behind Facebook.  I joined Jaiku, but pretty much run del.icio.us feeds into [...]

]]> By: SpaceyG http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354518 SpaceyG Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:12:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354518 One other thing... does Ana Marie Cox not have anything else to wear on TV but that one tan jacket/uniform? Such a pretty lady; such a piss-poor wardrobe. Call Anna Wintour, soon dear. One other thing… does Ana Marie Cox not have anything else to wear on TV but that one tan jacket/uniform? Such a pretty lady; such a piss-poor wardrobe. Call Anna Wintour, soon dear.

]]> By: SpaceyG http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354517 SpaceyG Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:05:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354517 Gawd... I don't know if I can get any further than that Uber-Geeky intro! I mean, is he serious about all that "why would people post sometimes racy" (insert teen giggle), pictures of themselves" gee-wiz stuff? Like, uh, maybe they want to have, like, sex or something? Gawd… I don’t know if I can get any further than that Uber-Geeky intro! I mean, is he serious about all that “why would people post sometimes racy” (insert teen giggle), pictures of themselves” gee-wiz stuff? Like, uh, maybe they want to have, like, sex or something?

]]> By: Joe O http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354514 Joe O Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:12:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354514 My 20-something friends and I are rather amused that Facebook would merit ANY time for logical discussion amongst the geezers. Facebook was the new "cool," in all of it's undefinable glory. Now it's becoming a paltry mix of tweens and grumpy old people trying to figure it out. It's like watching my techophobic mom trying to use an iPod. It's beyond bizarre that after over three years on the site, you're all finally catching up. But you're more behind than you think. I just updated my status and replied to a wall post via cell phone. I barely check the site itself anymore. Facebook mobile is more vital than the site itself. My 20-something friends and I are rather amused that Facebook would merit ANY time for logical discussion amongst the geezers.

Facebook was the new “cool,” in all of it’s undefinable glory. Now it’s becoming a paltry mix of tweens and grumpy old people trying to figure it out. It’s like watching my techophobic mom trying to use an iPod.

It’s beyond bizarre that after over three years on the site, you’re all finally catching up. But you’re more behind than you think. I just updated my status and replied to a wall post via cell phone. I barely check the site itself anymore. Facebook mobile is more vital than the site itself.

]]> By: Kate Redburn http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354471 Kate Redburn Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354471 http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2039665.ece http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article2039665.ece

]]> By: Kate Redburn http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354470 Kate Redburn Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:28:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354470 Dear Jeff, Saw this and thought it was right up your alley. I know you're guardian guy, but at least scroll to the end of the piece, which outlines facebook etiquette. Keep up the great blogging! Dear Jeff,
Saw this and thought it was right up your alley. I know you’re guardian guy, but at least scroll to the end of the piece, which outlines facebook etiquette.
Keep up the great blogging!

]]> By: Colin Carmichael http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354465 Colin Carmichael Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:46:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354465 David, you're point brings me to another... there are very positive 'offline' outcomes to Facebook... For example, I recently went to a quasi-high school reunion that I never would have gone to had I not already reconnected with a bunch of those people on Facebook. David, you’re point brings me to another… there are very positive ‘offline’ outcomes to Facebook… For example, I recently went to a quasi-high school reunion that I never would have gone to had I not already reconnected with a bunch of those people on Facebook.

]]> By: UpsideDownHE http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354463 UpsideDownHE Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:30:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354463 <strong>Jeff Jarvis explains why Facebook is so compelling...</strong> Ok...somebody explain this to me. You market, service, and educate the Facebook generation, yet when I speak at conferences about Facebook, social networking, and the like, it's still a great mystery to many. Here's a tip...go to Facebook.com and mak... Jeff Jarvis explains why Facebook is so compelling…

Ok…somebody explain this to me. You market, service, and educate the Facebook generation, yet when I speak at conferences about Facebook, social networking, and the like, it’s still a great mystery to many. Here’s a tip…go to Facebook.com and mak…

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354458 David Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:15:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354458 Another important element is that Facebook, partly because of the news feeds, provides a feeling of proximity or connectedness so that it rarely seems that you're out of the loop. This feeling, which you could argue is actually somewhat illusory, makes it seem as though you are in constant communication with your friends even if most of these updates are generated dynamically. In addition to providing a steady stream of what could largely be considered gossip, IMO it squarely addresses the "out of sight, out of mind" principle in a way that no other technology seems capable. And as Ana Marie Cox and Howard Kurtz point out during the segment-- like most successful web 2.0 applications--Facebook appeals to people's vanity by flattering the user into believing that he or she is worthy of attention from a large number of people. Another important element is that Facebook, partly because of the news feeds, provides a feeling of proximity or connectedness so that it rarely seems that you’re out of the loop. This feeling, which you could argue is actually somewhat illusory, makes it seem as though you are in constant communication with your friends even if most of these updates are generated dynamically. In addition to providing a steady stream of what could largely be considered gossip, IMO it squarely addresses the “out of sight, out of mind” principle in a way that no other technology seems capable.

And as Ana Marie Cox and Howard Kurtz point out during the segment– like most successful web 2.0 applications–Facebook appeals to people’s vanity by flattering the user into believing that he or she is worthy of attention from a large number of people.

]]> By: Colin Carmichael http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354454 Colin Carmichael Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:22:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/09/howie-friends-on-facebook/#comment-354454 There are two things I haven't heard said yet about why Facebook is so successful across may demographics. First, it is not a social network - it is a collection of social networks. Second (and even more important) is that it reflects existing off-line networks. You almost made that point when you talked about the 'wisdom of MY web' as opposed the wider web. This is different than MySpace or most of the first generation of social networks (forums) that attempt to create online social networks. The social networks Facebook exposes have always existed. That's the key to its success. There are two things I haven’t heard said yet about why Facebook is so successful across may demographics.
First, it is not a social network - it is a collection of social networks.
Second (and even more important) is that it reflects existing off-line networks. You almost made that point when you talked about the ‘wisdom of MY web’ as opposed the wider web. This is different than MySpace or most of the first generation of social networks (forums) that attempt to create online social networks. The social networks Facebook exposes have always existed. That’s the key to its success.

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