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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: innovative and practical ideas for projects</title>
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		<dc:creator>innovative and practical ideas for projects</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 11:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Red Stripe innovation effort poses some questions about the way publishers develop new ideas?? ...http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/Sunset Ideas for Great Kitchens - OxmoorHouse.comHome &#38;ampgt Home projects &#38;ampgt Kitchen and Bath. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: It's hard to see the future from there</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-360995</link>
		<dc:creator>It's hard to see the future from there</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis writes an interesting post looking for lessons from the failure, noting that journalists - given money to do something - look to improve the world rather than [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Project Red Stripe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Well see you later innovator</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-357092</link>
		<dc:creator>Project Red Stripe &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Well see you later innovator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 10:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis started off, following up on a piece on PaidContent.org, by saying that the need to focus on making a profit would now be a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-08-06 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-356066</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2007-08-06 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 01:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sustaining journalism through innovation - BuzzMachine &#8220;I would have thrown another requirement on Project Red Stripe or any media companyâ€™s innovation incubator: that they start a sustainable â€” that is, profitable â€” business&#8230; now the business of journalism is every journalistâ€™s business.&#8221; (tags: internet media business innovation journalism theeconomist projectredstripe quotes) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sustaining journalism through innovation - BuzzMachine &#8220;I would have thrown another requirement on Project Red Stripe or any media companyâ€™s innovation incubator: that they start a sustainable â€” that is, profitable â€” business&#8230; now the business of journalism is every journalistâ€™s business.&#8221; (tags: internet media business innovation journalism theeconomist projectredstripe quotes) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everyday innovation</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-356010</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Everyday innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] response to the pffft of the Economist&#8217;s Project Red Stripe effort in innovation and the discussion around it, Suw Charman gives her best advice about innovation, saying it needs to come from seeing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] response to the pffft of the Economist&#8217;s Project Red Stripe effort in innovation and the discussion around it, Suw Charman gives her best advice about innovation, saying it needs to come from seeing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Small World News &#187; Sustainable? Profitable? Actionable?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-355765</link>
		<dc:creator>Small World News &#187; Sustainable? Profitable? Actionable?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis recently raised some very interesting questions about the future of &#8220;networked journalism&#8221; and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sustaining journalism through innovation</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-355680</link>
		<dc:creator>ABC Digital Futures &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sustaining journalism through innovation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis&#8217;s reflections are prompted by his views about The Economist magazine&#8217;s Project Red Stripe, where a bunch of smart people were given $200,000 to create something with only two requirements: It had to be on the web and it had to be innovative. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis&#8217;s reflections are prompted by his views about The Economist magazine&#8217;s Project Red Stripe, where a bunch of smart people were given $200,000 to create something with only two requirements: It had to be on the web and it had to be innovative. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-355658</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profitable = sustainable. YES! Great idea Jeff!.  In fact, focus on bottom line profitability is WHY, more than anything else, capitalism is more sustainable, and thus successful, than any other system.

Product: combined paper to be published AND web site of info / blogs / articles

Top line revenue comes mostly from advertising.
Advertisers want to know that eyeballs are getting exposed to the ads they are paying for.  Audience must be measured in a way that ad companies buy.

Costs: initial capital startup, very limited McDonald's level of salary for editors plus "profit sharing", plus limited opinion publishing.
[Yes -- hire people who accept being "paid" by having their opinions published, with 3 main editors/ ad sellers deciding on who gets published primarily based on quality]

Content: news.  Community news gatherers (like OhMy News ), including uploads of pictures and videos.  Plus analysis and summary of analyses.

Focus on clearly noting what are the facts -- which are the content really worth paying for; but look for bright, humorous, thoughtful analysis of what the facts mean.  Or what they might mean, along with why some analysis prediction / speculation might be totally wrong.

Such a paper needs to be published and distributed for free at hotels, but sold (cheap) at Newstands, with almost free costs to the sellers (highest margin for them?).  
Color pictures on the front page?  Look for "free" fotos (eg Rick Lee) and get permission for mini-profit sharing agreements.  
Look for publishing ... the "Best of what's free".
The job is choosing what's the best.

e.g. Get agreements from Kos and Instapundit to run most of their stuff for "free advertising" byline.  The best of unpaid bloggers is likely not much worse than of other journalists -- and certain to be cheaper.

Fame, not cash. (Personal advertisements?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Profitable = sustainable. YES! Great idea Jeff!.  In fact, focus on bottom line profitability is WHY, more than anything else, capitalism is more sustainable, and thus successful, than any other system.</p>
<p>Product: combined paper to be published AND web site of info / blogs / articles</p>
<p>Top line revenue comes mostly from advertising.<br />
Advertisers want to know that eyeballs are getting exposed to the ads they are paying for.  Audience must be measured in a way that ad companies buy.</p>
<p>Costs: initial capital startup, very limited McDonald&#8217;s level of salary for editors plus &#8220;profit sharing&#8221;, plus limited opinion publishing.<br />
[Yes -- hire people who accept being "paid" by having their opinions published, with 3 main editors/ ad sellers deciding on who gets published primarily based on quality]</p>
<p>Content: news.  Community news gatherers (like OhMy News ), including uploads of pictures and videos.  Plus analysis and summary of analyses.</p>
<p>Focus on clearly noting what are the facts &#8212; which are the content really worth paying for; but look for bright, humorous, thoughtful analysis of what the facts mean.  Or what they might mean, along with why some analysis prediction / speculation might be totally wrong.</p>
<p>Such a paper needs to be published and distributed for free at hotels, but sold (cheap) at Newstands, with almost free costs to the sellers (highest margin for them?).<br />
Color pictures on the front page?  Look for &#8220;free&#8221; fotos (eg Rick Lee) and get permission for mini-profit sharing agreements.<br />
Look for publishing &#8230; the &#8220;Best of what&#8217;s free&#8221;.<br />
The job is choosing what&#8217;s the best.</p>
<p>e.g. Get agreements from Kos and Instapundit to run most of their stuff for &#8220;free advertising&#8221; byline.  The best of unpaid bloggers is likely not much worse than of other journalists &#8212; and certain to be cheaper.</p>
<p>Fame, not cash. (Personal advertisements?)</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Stabe &#187; links for 2007-08-01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Stabe &#187; links for 2007-08-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 12:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine: Sustaining journalism through innovation Jeff Jarvis: &#8220;I would have thrown another requirement on Project Red Stripe or any media companyâ€™s innovation incubator: that they start a sustainable â€” that is, profitable â€” business.&#8221; (tags: innovation projectredstripe economist) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Howard Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-355604</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profits drive investment. Investment drives innovation.  (We could quibble over the meaning of investment and profits as not necessarily being monetary, but in broad strokes both mean money.)

Without a profit motive, it isn't really innovation.

Without profit, it isn't really business.

Sure, there are exceptions, but profits make the world go round.  Profits create jobs and make altruism possible.

Without profits, there would be no such thing as journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Profits drive investment. Investment drives innovation.  (We could quibble over the meaning of investment and profits as not necessarily being monetary, but in broad strokes both mean money.)</p>
<p>Without a profit motive, it isn&#8217;t really innovation.</p>
<p>Without profit, it isn&#8217;t really business.</p>
<p>Sure, there are exceptions, but profits make the world go round.  Profits create jobs and make altruism possible.</p>
<p>Without profits, there would be no such thing as journalism.</p>
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		<title>By: tish grier</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/07/31/sustaining-journalism-through-innovation/#comment-355545</link>
		<dc:creator>tish grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff...journalists not only have to sully themselves with filthy lucre, but they also have to *gasp* interact with the masses!  Yes, that's what "community" is about.  And there are certain skills that come from working with community--as community, not as constituency nor as consumers--that help loads when working with any new online venture....

Remember, we're in an era of "social" media.  "Social" usually implies dealing with people in ways that go beyond subject/object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8230;journalists not only have to sully themselves with filthy lucre, but they also have to *gasp* interact with the masses!  Yes, that&#8217;s what &#8220;community&#8221; is about.  And there are certain skills that come from working with community&#8211;as community, not as constituency nor as consumers&#8211;that help loads when working with any new online venture&#8230;.</p>
<p>Remember, we&#8217;re in an era of &#8220;social&#8221; media.  &#8220;Social&#8221; usually implies dealing with people in ways that go beyond subject/object.</p>
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		<title>By: Complete Tosh, by Neil McIntosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Complete Tosh, by Neil McIntosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;It's hard to see the future from there...&lt;/strong&gt;

The failure of the Economist's Project Red Stripe innovation effort poses some questions about the way publishers develop new ideas....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It&#8217;s hard to see the future from there&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The failure of the Economist&#8217;s Project Red Stripe innovation effort poses some questions about the way publishers develop new ideas&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff....typo in your Project Red Stripe link.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff&#8230;.typo in your Project Red Stripe link&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Boriss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Boriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, You are fighting against a cultural divide.  In the Old Media model, news consumers are not "customers," they are "citizens."  The suits in the corner offices are unfortunate necessities who, at all costs, must be kept from contaminating the news.  And journalists are public servants --  the discovers, gatherers, and distributors of "the truth."  If your program is drawing students who think like Old Media, you will have trouble converting them, especially since every other member of your faculty will be telling them the opposite.  Perhaps you ought to run your class as a joint program with the B-school.  (Steve Boriss, &lt;a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Future of News&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, You are fighting against a cultural divide.  In the Old Media model, news consumers are not &#8220;customers,&#8221; they are &#8220;citizens.&#8221;  The suits in the corner offices are unfortunate necessities who, at all costs, must be kept from contaminating the news.  And journalists are public servants &#8212;  the discovers, gatherers, and distributors of &#8220;the truth.&#8221;  If your program is drawing students who think like Old Media, you will have trouble converting them, especially since every other member of your faculty will be telling them the opposite.  Perhaps you ought to run your class as a joint program with the B-school.  (Steve Boriss, <a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow">The Future of News</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg0658</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg0658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>more on title subject - maybe it's just me

but advertising revenue needs a replacement system because at 49 I've trained myself thru a sharp eye and a remote control to scan right over the clutter of ads

I want the folks at the prints and the stations to make it and I'd like to thank the businesses for doing the bidding ... but I wish there was another way, less wasteful of my time and paper and can't forget to mention the cost of living</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>more on title subject - maybe it&#8217;s just me</p>
<p>but advertising revenue needs a replacement system because at 49 I&#8217;ve trained myself thru a sharp eye and a remote control to scan right over the clutter of ads</p>
<p>I want the folks at the prints and the stations to make it and I&#8217;d like to thank the businesses for doing the bidding &#8230; but I wish there was another way, less wasteful of my time and paper and can&#8217;t forget to mention the cost of living</p>
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		<title>By: Greg0658</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg0658</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 12:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff says - "give smart people money to play with"

I think ALL people with something worth protecting will work to protect it.

I know where your coming from, drugies and alchies don't need hand outs ... but I wonder if they were fashioned outta a earlier miss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff says - &#8220;give smart people money to play with&#8221;</p>
<p>I think ALL people with something worth protecting will work to protect it.</p>
<p>I know where your coming from, drugies and alchies don&#8217;t need hand outs &#8230; but I wonder if they were fashioned outta a earlier miss.</p>
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