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		<title>By: Print-News sind ein Zombie: IDG-Studie zur Mediennutzung von Entscheidern at viralmythen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/08/11/the-emergence-of-media-tribes/#comment-372914</link>
		<dc:creator>Print-News sind ein Zombie: IDG-Studie zur Mediennutzung von Entscheidern at viralmythen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 21:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ein Punkt ist aber plausibel: Printzeitschriften spielen als Nachrichtenquelle nur noch eine Untergeordnete Rolle. Das Internet - trotz aller Diffusit&#228;t, Un&#252;bersichtlichkeit und Fl&#252;chtigkeit - liefert die aktuelleren Informationen. Also: Print ist nicht tot, aber Print-News sind ein Zombie. Und Marken, welche eine &#220;berraschung, spielen sowohl in der Print- wie Onlinewelt eine gro&#223;e Rolle. Das passt zu den aktuellen &#220;berlegungen zu &#8220;Media-Tribes&#8220;. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ein Punkt ist aber plausibel: Printzeitschriften spielen als Nachrichtenquelle nur noch eine Untergeordnete Rolle. Das Internet &#8211; trotz aller Diffusit&#228;t, Un&#252;bersichtlichkeit und Fl&#252;chtigkeit &#8211; liefert die aktuelleren Informationen. Also: Print ist nicht tot, aber Print-News sind ein Zombie. Und Marken, welche eine &#220;berraschung, spielen sowohl in der Print- wie Onlinewelt eine gro&#223;e Rolle. Das passt zu den aktuellen &#220;berlegungen zu &#8220;Media-Tribes&#8220;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalism Daily - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Journalism - Powered by SocialRank</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: New Media Signal - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on New Media - Powered by SocialRank</title>
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		<title>By: One night in Paris (Missouri, Kentucky, Ontario...)</title>
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		<dc:creator>One night in Paris (Missouri, Kentucky, Ontario...)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or maybe we&#8217;ve been watching too much FOX.  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David Cushman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/08/11/the-emergence-of-media-tribes/#comment-357174</link>
		<dc:creator>David Cushman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff, interesting analysis.
The tribes - to me - are self-determining communities who create their version of &#039;news&#039; - focused on the things that are important to them.

How they decide what source or individual to trust is collective - it&#039;s a wiki version if you will.

I think news is now: real time information gathered by and distributed to communities of shared interest.

I&#039;ve posted more on this as part of a white paper which is available to download on my blog: http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com and would welcome your contribution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff, interesting analysis.<br />
The tribes &#8211; to me &#8211; are self-determining communities who create their version of &#8216;news&#8217; &#8211; focused on the things that are important to them.</p>
<p>How they decide what source or individual to trust is collective &#8211; it&#8217;s a wiki version if you will.</p>
<p>I think news is now: real time information gathered by and distributed to communities of shared interest.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve posted more on this as part of a white paper which is available to download on my blog: <a href="http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://fasterfuture.blogspot.com</a> and would welcome your contribution.</p>
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		<title>By: Cooler Heads</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cooler Heads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, I see a big missing piece from the survey.

Pew asked about unfavorable views of MSM outlets, but did not (at least according to your post) ask about unfavorable view of &#039;net news. 

I&#039;d be curious to see if there is some ideological tribe--as opposed to age, gender, etc, tribe--that is critical of internet news.

That might help explain what you characterize as the Fox theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, I see a big missing piece from the survey.</p>
<p>Pew asked about unfavorable views of MSM outlets, but did not (at least according to your post) ask about unfavorable view of &#8216;net news. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be curious to see if there is some ideological tribe&#8211;as opposed to age, gender, etc, tribe&#8211;that is critical of internet news.</p>
<p>That might help explain what you characterize as the Fox theory.</p>
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		<title>By: Small World News &#187; It&#8217;s the Granfalloon, Stupid, or is it false karass? Check the Graphic.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Small World News &#187; It&#8217;s the Granfalloon, Stupid, or is it false karass? Check the Graphic.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 04:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] last Saturday Jeff Jarvis wrote a post that I only just found today. He discusses the Pew Research Center&#8217;s study on Americans&#8217; views of their news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;What is this morbid obsession that liberals have with Fox? It&#039;s as if Democrats, pampered and spoiled by so many decades of the mainstream media trumpeting the liberal agenda, are so shaky in their convictions that they cannot risk an encounter with opposing views. Democrats have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the New York Times, Newsweek, Time and 98 percent of American humanities professors to do their bidding. But no, that&#039;s not enough -- every spark of dissent has to be extinguished with buckets of bile.&quot; 
-- Democrat &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2007/03/14/coulter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Camille Paglia&lt;/a&gt;
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&#8220;What is this morbid obsession that liberals have with Fox? It&#8217;s as if Democrats, pampered and spoiled by so many decades of the mainstream media trumpeting the liberal agenda, are so shaky in their convictions that they cannot risk an encounter with opposing views. Democrats have ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, the New York Times, Newsweek, Time and 98 percent of American humanities professors to do their bidding. But no, that&#8217;s not enough &#8212; every spark of dissent has to be extinguished with buckets of bile.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Democrat <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2007/03/14/coulter/" rel="nofollow">Camille Paglia</a>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/08/11/the-emergence-of-media-tribes/#comment-356927</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m very late to the party on this one, but... uhmm.. am I the ONLY one who read the graphic at the top of Jeff&#039;s post, perhaps we&#039;d all just rather read Jeff&#039;s theories and hate or love him, without writing much new and introspective.. although perhaps one should be respectful and do that on their own blog... (don&#039;t worry, i will, and i&#039;ll trackback)

But first... look at the numbers, except for &quot;Protect Democracy&quot; the seemingly &quot;positivie&quot; side of the stats have all RISEN steadily since rising and then dropping swiftly in the post-September 11th period.

Yes, you could look at the graph and say &quot;woe is me, the &#039;Persistent Criticisms of the Press&#039; are so much worse than they were in 1985!&quot; OR you could look at the graph and say &quot;Wow! Why is it that in the last 5 years the Persistent Criticisms are becoming LESS and LESS??&quot;

Well.. one could sugget that it&#039;s interesting that this corresponds not only to the post-September 11th world, but also to the general rise of blogging, and this same &quot;fragmentation&quot; of the media that we hear so much about. Perhaps we are breaking into tribes, and perhaps it is the ability to access what our niche particularly prefers that is improving our overall view of the media???

More on my own blog! But next time, read the post and the graphs, and lets try to have a dialogue sparked by Jeff&#039;s controversial and, in my opinion, not quite the right angle to examine, lets not just sound off in agreement or anger in traditional blog-tastic fashion...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very late to the party on this one, but&#8230; uhmm.. am I the ONLY one who read the graphic at the top of Jeff&#8217;s post, perhaps we&#8217;d all just rather read Jeff&#8217;s theories and hate or love him, without writing much new and introspective.. although perhaps one should be respectful and do that on their own blog&#8230; (don&#8217;t worry, i will, and i&#8217;ll trackback)</p>
<p>But first&#8230; look at the numbers, except for &#8220;Protect Democracy&#8221; the seemingly &#8220;positivie&#8221; side of the stats have all RISEN steadily since rising and then dropping swiftly in the post-September 11th period.</p>
<p>Yes, you could look at the graph and say &#8220;woe is me, the &#8216;Persistent Criticisms of the Press&#8217; are so much worse than they were in 1985!&#8221; OR you could look at the graph and say &#8220;Wow! Why is it that in the last 5 years the Persistent Criticisms are becoming LESS and LESS??&#8221;</p>
<p>Well.. one could sugget that it&#8217;s interesting that this corresponds not only to the post-September 11th world, but also to the general rise of blogging, and this same &#8220;fragmentation&#8221; of the media that we hear so much about. Perhaps we are breaking into tribes, and perhaps it is the ability to access what our niche particularly prefers that is improving our overall view of the media???</p>
<p>More on my own blog! But next time, read the post and the graphs, and lets try to have a dialogue sparked by Jeff&#8217;s controversial and, in my opinion, not quite the right angle to examine, lets not just sound off in agreement or anger in traditional blog-tastic fashion&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211;out&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting that you criticize local TV news and express amazement at the public&#039;s respect for it.   I hate to throw out accusations like &#039;you don&#039;t get it&quot;, but think about it - local TV news is almost entirely fact based, with a majority of the air time going to things like sports or weather that are hard to screw up.  

By contrast, much press and cable news channel reporting goes into issues that are either matters of opinion or deal with subjects most reporters, particularly those with journalism/liberal arts degrees, consistently demonstrate they simply don&#039;t know anything about, such as technical, statistical, or military issues - I once read an hilarious article mocking a pilot&#039;s &quot;obvious error&quot; in a discussion of aircraft noise levels by a reporter who was evidently unaware of the existence of logarithmic scales.  

&quot;Watch Fox and tell me they arenâ€™t slamming media all the time. Itâ€™s working.&quot;

Is it working because of the effectiveness of some nefarious plot, or because the &quot;slams&quot; are valid, legitimate criticism?  I see glaring errors in reports on issues I have expertise in all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you criticize local TV news and express amazement at the public&#8217;s respect for it.   I hate to throw out accusations like &#8216;you don&#8217;t get it&#8221;, but think about it &#8211; local TV news is almost entirely fact based, with a majority of the air time going to things like sports or weather that are hard to screw up.  </p>
<p>By contrast, much press and cable news channel reporting goes into issues that are either matters of opinion or deal with subjects most reporters, particularly those with journalism/liberal arts degrees, consistently demonstrate they simply don&#8217;t know anything about, such as technical, statistical, or military issues &#8211; I once read an hilarious article mocking a pilot&#8217;s &#8220;obvious error&#8221; in a discussion of aircraft noise levels by a reporter who was evidently unaware of the existence of logarithmic scales.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Watch Fox and tell me they arenâ€™t slamming media all the time. Itâ€™s working.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it working because of the effectiveness of some nefarious plot, or because the &#8220;slams&#8221; are valid, legitimate criticism?  I see glaring errors in reports on issues I have expertise in all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-08-14 &#8212; Daily Ideas</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2007-08-14 &#8212; Daily Ideas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: donloeb.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; daily gbus: cage-free eggs, newspapers, &#38; facebook&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>donloeb.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; daily gbus: cage-free eggs, newspapers, &#38; facebook&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] newspapers are screwed&#8230;or no, they&#8217;re not? plus, media tribes from jeff [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tansley - addendum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tansley - addendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay tish - good point, and I agree....right down to that &#039;hair on the back of the neck&#039; feeling with watching FOX...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay tish &#8211; good point, and I agree&#8230;.right down to that &#8216;hair on the back of the neck&#8217; feeling with watching FOX&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that people probably rate local news highly because they like news that feels closer to them (and the people that give them that news since they also feel closer than the national broadcasters).  

More and more hyperlocal content is appearing on the web these days and, while it isn&#039;t as stimulating as the larger issues in the news, people really enjoy it since it directly affects them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that people probably rate local news highly because they like news that feels closer to them (and the people that give them that news since they also feel closer than the national broadcasters).  </p>
<p>More and more hyperlocal content is appearing on the web these days and, while it isn&#8217;t as stimulating as the larger issues in the news, people really enjoy it since it directly affects them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creating cynicism is Fox&#039;s chief purpose. When people are cynical, they aren&#039;t engaged. The fewer engaged citizens, the easier it is for the powerful few to maintain control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creating cynicism is Fox&#8217;s chief purpose. When people are cynical, they aren&#8217;t engaged. The fewer engaged citizens, the easier it is for the powerful few to maintain control.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:13:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Bread and circuses&lt;/i&gt; seems best suited to mass media, which originated during the industrial revolution.  &lt;i&gt;New media&lt;/i&gt; creatively destroys old school UK mass media shtick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Bread and circuses</i> seems best suited to mass media, which originated during the industrial revolution.  <i>New media</i> creatively destroys old school UK mass media shtick.</p>
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		<title>By: tish grier</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/08/11/the-emergence-of-media-tribes/#comment-356877</link>
		<dc:creator>tish grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Case in point: NBC&#039;s struggle to incorporate the iVillage tribe...http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/13/business/media/13ivillage.html?ex=1344657600&amp;en=9ada6a656dd08e90&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss

it might not be a heavily political &quot;tribe&quot; but iVillage is its own kind of media tribe--which NBC&#039;s misunderstood in many ways...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Case in point: NBC&#8217;s struggle to incorporate the iVillage tribe&#8230;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/13/business/media/13ivillage.html?ex=1344657600&amp;en=9ada6a656dd08e90&amp;ei=5088&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss</p>
<p>it might not be a heavily political &#8220;tribe&#8221; but iVillage is its own kind of media tribe&#8211;which NBC&#8217;s misunderstood in many ways&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tish grier</title>
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		<dc:creator>tish grier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tansley--electronic sub-cultures have been around for awhile (I used to be part of one way before the www as we see it today...)  so, I kind of like Jeff&#039;s idea of media tribes--which I think is different from those subcultures in some ways.  The Fox tribe is the most obvious and probably easiest to get some numbers on--yet there are other, smaller tribes that focus around particular bloggers or blog networks as well as message boards and forums (still big wtih some folks.)  Most MSM, I think, seems to have a difficult time with the whole &quot;tribe&quot; thing--but they also have trouble understanding social networks.  Fox has some very savvy people working for it, who get all of this, and know how to use it.  creepily.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tansley&#8211;electronic sub-cultures have been around for awhile (I used to be part of one way before the www as we see it today&#8230;)  so, I kind of like Jeff&#8217;s idea of media tribes&#8211;which I think is different from those subcultures in some ways.  The Fox tribe is the most obvious and probably easiest to get some numbers on&#8211;yet there are other, smaller tribes that focus around particular bloggers or blog networks as well as message boards and forums (still big wtih some folks.)  Most MSM, I think, seems to have a difficult time with the whole &#8220;tribe&#8221; thing&#8211;but they also have trouble understanding social networks.  Fox has some very savvy people working for it, who get all of this, and know how to use it.  creepily.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Media tribes sounds very confrontational, I like the idea of a news smorgasbord, where variety and competition is very healthly for all parties involved, especially the news consumer.  The traditional media which held a monopoly on news for decades will continue to erode as the older generation that grew up with them is replaced by the younger generation that loves variety.  Anyone watching the big 3 networks in their prime, couldn&#039;t help but notice their uniformity on what was presented as news.  Talk radio, cable channels, and the internet broke that monopoly and will continue to fragment the audience and create new niche news markets.  The Pew Research poll appears to be tracking this ongoing transformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Media tribes sounds very confrontational, I like the idea of a news smorgasbord, where variety and competition is very healthly for all parties involved, especially the news consumer.  The traditional media which held a monopoly on news for decades will continue to erode as the older generation that grew up with them is replaced by the younger generation that loves variety.  Anyone watching the big 3 networks in their prime, couldn&#8217;t help but notice their uniformity on what was presented as news.  Talk radio, cable channels, and the internet broke that monopoly and will continue to fragment the audience and create new niche news markets.  The Pew Research poll appears to be tracking this ongoing transformation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tansley - addendum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tansley - addendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>- correction, one of my online news sources was misnamed by me - the correct name is the International Herald-TRIBUNE.</description>
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		<title>By: Tansley - addendum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tansley - addendum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>robertdfeinman&#039;s take on the pre-existence of media &#039;tribes&#039; is well-taken: I would go a step beyond that to cite that what we&#039;re seeing nowadays is the evolution of electronic sub-cultures - areas of population demographic where not just the news, but what KINDS of news are taken in and which formulate decision-making factors and emphases in the behavior of each sub-culture&#039;s denizens.

It would be interesting to see what Pew has to say about PBS&#039;s &quot;The News Hour,&quot; which I&#039;ve never been able to reconcile with the MSM.  Liberals hate it when Jeff Sessions appears on it, and Conservatives roar every time they see Nancy Pelosi being interviewed.

My daily news intake generally comes from online sources CNN, BBC, International Herald-Times, Al Jazeera, and, of course, your blog, here, Jeff.  From there, once home, I tune in PBS.  Occasionally I tune in to local news, but more often than not I get all the local news I need from the local newspapers.  Local television is weather and sports....as, I think, Dave Violence cited C.S. Lewis as discussing...  and LanceThruster is likely right-on with his reference to Chomsky&#039;s &#039;Manufacturing Consent&#039; - it&#039;s bread and circuses, folks...

I don&#039;t actually think of FOX as &#039;negative,&#039; per se ... more along the lines, perhaps, of the kind of biasing once promulgated by W.H. Hearst, to suit his particular agendas at the time.  Citizen Murdoch, let us remember, is in this really ONLY for the money, and the party of the monied class is, after all, the Republicans.  Perhaps &#039;mercenary&#039; might be a closer description...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>robertdfeinman&#8217;s take on the pre-existence of media &#8216;tribes&#8217; is well-taken: I would go a step beyond that to cite that what we&#8217;re seeing nowadays is the evolution of electronic sub-cultures &#8211; areas of population demographic where not just the news, but what KINDS of news are taken in and which formulate decision-making factors and emphases in the behavior of each sub-culture&#8217;s denizens.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to see what Pew has to say about PBS&#8217;s &#8220;The News Hour,&#8221; which I&#8217;ve never been able to reconcile with the MSM.  Liberals hate it when Jeff Sessions appears on it, and Conservatives roar every time they see Nancy Pelosi being interviewed.</p>
<p>My daily news intake generally comes from online sources CNN, BBC, International Herald-Times, Al Jazeera, and, of course, your blog, here, Jeff.  From there, once home, I tune in PBS.  Occasionally I tune in to local news, but more often than not I get all the local news I need from the local newspapers.  Local television is weather and sports&#8230;.as, I think, Dave Violence cited C.S. Lewis as discussing&#8230;  and LanceThruster is likely right-on with his reference to Chomsky&#8217;s &#8216;Manufacturing Consent&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s bread and circuses, folks&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually think of FOX as &#8216;negative,&#8217; per se &#8230; more along the lines, perhaps, of the kind of biasing once promulgated by W.H. Hearst, to suit his particular agendas at the time.  Citizen Murdoch, let us remember, is in this really ONLY for the money, and the party of the monied class is, after all, the Republicans.  Perhaps &#8216;mercenary&#8217; might be a closer description&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2007-08-13 : Blogging The News</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2007-08-13 : Blogging The News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 18:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Timothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff - Given your title, I was surprised that you didn&#039;t reference &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2240427.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this recent essay&lt;/a&gt; from the London Times, which uses the word &quot;tribal&quot; in reference to the bBBC and other UK institutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff &#8211; Given your title, I was surprised that you didn&#8217;t reference <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2240427.ece" rel="nofollow">this recent essay</a> from the London Times, which uses the word &#8220;tribal&#8221; in reference to the bBBC and other UK institutions.</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick note about &quot;high&quot; marks for local TV. I think it goes to the classic results you find in polling.  The nation&#039;s schools are awful, my state&#039;s schools are bad but not as bad a the nation&#039;s.  My local school is excellent.  As the experiences get closer to the user they feel it is socially more appropriate to not ding their local people as much.  maybe they are afraid they will meet them in the supermarket.  

Bottom line, I would&#039;ve expected that response between local and national media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick note about &#8220;high&#8221; marks for local TV. I think it goes to the classic results you find in polling.  The nation&#8217;s schools are awful, my state&#8217;s schools are bad but not as bad a the nation&#8217;s.  My local school is excellent.  As the experiences get closer to the user they feel it is socially more appropriate to not ding their local people as much.  maybe they are afraid they will meet them in the supermarket.  </p>
<p>Bottom line, I would&#8217;ve expected that response between local and national media.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptiousNut</title>
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		<dc:creator>CaptiousNut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 15:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FOX is negative?

Boy, your world really is upside down.

It&#039;s never been about &quot;agreeing&quot; with news.  It&#039;s about acknowledging facts, you buffoon.

I&#039;ll be sure to check back in a couple of weeks for another laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOX is negative?</p>
<p>Boy, your world really is upside down.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s never been about &#8220;agreeing&#8221; with news.  It&#8217;s about acknowledging facts, you buffoon.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be sure to check back in a couple of weeks for another laugh.</p>
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