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	<title>Comments on: Poor Yahoo</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Digital Common Sense &#187; Yoohoo Yahoo. Where are you?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-362382</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Common Sense &#187; Yoohoo Yahoo. Where are you?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: DensityDuck</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-360166</link>
		<dc:creator>DensityDuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only that, but the people at Yahoo are invariably tremendous assholes when driving.  You can bank on at least three of them running the red light to make the left turn onto First Street, every time.  You'd think people working in One Of The Most Important Technology Firms would learn how to get to work on time, but I guess it's a busy business, shopping Chinese dissidents to the government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only that, but the people at Yahoo are invariably tremendous assholes when driving.  You can bank on at least three of them running the red light to make the left turn onto First Street, every time.  You&#8217;d think people working in One Of The Most Important Technology Firms would learn how to get to work on time, but I guess it&#8217;s a busy business, shopping Chinese dissidents to the government.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul A' Barge</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-360157</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul A' Barge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2007 13:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;From the mash-up site at JumpCut, I cannot figure out how to start mashing. Steve Garfieldâ€™s a smarter guy than I, so he did manage to mash:&lt;/em&gt;

You have way too much time on your hands.

Don't you need to cut the grass or something?

It's called a life, and no matter how loudly you whine, you can't buy one online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>From the mash-up site at JumpCut, I cannot figure out how to start mashing. Steve Garfieldâ€™s a smarter guy than I, so he did manage to mash:</em></p>
<p>You have way too much time on your hands.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you need to cut the grass or something?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called a life, and no matter how loudly you whine, you can&#8217;t buy one online.</p>
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		<title>By: Sin Jin Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-360092</link>
		<dc:creator>Sin Jin Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2007 18:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey give Yahoo a break.  Like any giant bureaucracy they usually take a snail's hour to get things done.  Like any truthful statement-the earth revolves around the sun-veracity tends to become boring and dull after a while.  We know that Google is the king of all search engines.  We know that Google is a lot healthier with its bottom line.  The dead horse is riding with Steve Irwin by now.

What we should be talking about is how can Yahoo be the best Yahoo that it can be.  And it starts by breaking with its bureaucratic flavor and injecting its entities with an entrepreneurial spirit and suave that can put Yahoo on an innovative, not backwards bent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey give Yahoo a break.  Like any giant bureaucracy they usually take a snail&#8217;s hour to get things done.  Like any truthful statement-the earth revolves around the sun-veracity tends to become boring and dull after a while.  We know that Google is the king of all search engines.  We know that Google is a lot healthier with its bottom line.  The dead horse is riding with Steve Irwin by now.</p>
<p>What we should be talking about is how can Yahoo be the best Yahoo that it can be.  And it starts by breaking with its bureaucratic flavor and injecting its entities with an entrepreneurial spirit and suave that can put Yahoo on an innovative, not backwards bent.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Yahoo can STILL do the right thing</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-359986</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc&#8217;s Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How Yahoo can STILL do the right thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 01:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis replays the incident with Arriana Huffington and access to mashed up videos.Â  Oh yah - they bought JumpCut. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Steven Clift&#8217;s Notes - Democracies Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Anti-Democratic Debate - Yahoo and partners run 17th online candidate debate</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-359927</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Clift&#8217;s Notes - Democracies Online &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Anti-Democratic Debate - Yahoo and partners run 17th online candidate debate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 05:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news expert Jeff Jarvis has blogged a couple zingers titled Poor Yahoo and The Yahoo Presidential Mushup. Other bloggers are weighing in as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: shelbinator</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-359888</link>
		<dc:creator>shelbinator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 18:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I had to pull the embed code out of your Prezvid page source.  You'd think every decent video player these days would have a Share-type button on it for embeds.  Duhr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I had to pull the embed code out of your Prezvid page source.  You&#8217;d think every decent video player these days would have a Share-type button on it for embeds.  Duhr.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Clift</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/14/poor-yahoo/#comment-359868</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Clift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

I listened to your comments on NPR yesterday and wanted to hear more about how you would construct a better online candidate debate.

With my decade plus experience with e-debates I offered to provide advice to this debate via the PR contacts listed in their original press materials, but alas no response whatsoever. Yahoo was a partner in the 2000 Web White and Blue presidential "rolling cyber debate" that I worked on, but I doubt much institutional memory was left. (Claiming firsts is always dangerous territory, so this cycle I'd to see some successfully claim best to date.)

Here is my detailed outline for what a good presidential online debate might look like: http://www.dowire.org/notes/?p=369

What do you think would actually work?

I developed this for round 2 of the Knight News Challenge, but in the end it wasn't local so my sense is that the time to do this right for the primary has passed us by. I also think the greatest value from an online debate would be generating and channeling public discussion/content on the issues and candidates beyond the swatch of usual suspects active on the most political blogs.

Steven Clift
E-Democracy.Org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>I listened to your comments on NPR yesterday and wanted to hear more about how you would construct a better online candidate debate.</p>
<p>With my decade plus experience with e-debates I offered to provide advice to this debate via the PR contacts listed in their original press materials, but alas no response whatsoever. Yahoo was a partner in the 2000 Web White and Blue presidential &#8220;rolling cyber debate&#8221; that I worked on, but I doubt much institutional memory was left. (Claiming firsts is always dangerous territory, so this cycle I&#8217;d to see some successfully claim best to date.)</p>
<p>Here is my detailed outline for what a good presidential online debate might look like: <a href="http://www.dowire.org/notes/?p=369" rel="nofollow">http://www.dowire.org/notes/?p=369</a></p>
<p>What do you think would actually work?</p>
<p>I developed this for round 2 of the Knight News Challenge, but in the end it wasn&#8217;t local so my sense is that the time to do this right for the primary has passed us by. I also think the greatest value from an online debate would be generating and channeling public discussion/content on the issues and candidates beyond the swatch of usual suspects active on the most political blogs.</p>
<p>Steven Clift<br />
E-Democracy.Org</p>
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