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	<title>Comments on: Guardian column: Whither the destination (and brand)?</title>
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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: How newspapers and broadcasters are different &#124; Susan Crawford blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-361179</link>
		<dc:creator>How newspapers and broadcasters are different &#124; Susan Crawford blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s hard for hardcopy newspapers to survive in a craigslist time, and they generally can&#8217;t force people to pay for their content online. It&#8217;s hard for broadcasters to differentiate their offerings, and so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#8217;s hard for hardcopy newspapers to survive in a craigslist time, and they generally can&#8217;t force people to pay for their content online. It&#8217;s hard for broadcasters to differentiate their offerings, and so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Journalism Daily - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Journalism - Powered by SocialRank</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-361051</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalism Daily - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Journalism - Powered by SocialRank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Guardian column: Whither the destination (and brand)? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360748</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,
Because it's just copied from the print and I had 2 minutes to get the post up. should have links but it's one more step, one more minute.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,<br />
Because it&#8217;s just copied from the print and I had 2 minutes to get the post up. should have links but it&#8217;s one more step, one more minute&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360732</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 03:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff:  Curious.... why are there no links in your Guardian column?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff:  Curious&#8230;. why are there no links in your Guardian column?</p>
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		<title>By: David Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360659</link>
		<dc:creator>David Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Jeff. Spot-on!

We need to get out of the import business (attracting visitors to our site)

We need to get into the export business (letting a thousand flowers bloom); it's about providing the content without respect to the specific utility. Note what Google is doing with gadgets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Jeff. Spot-on!</p>
<p>We need to get out of the import business (attracting visitors to our site)</p>
<p>We need to get into the export business (letting a thousand flowers bloom); it&#8217;s about providing the content without respect to the specific utility. Note what Google is doing with gadgets.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360657</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am almost embarrassed to tell this story, but it's just too perfect.

The night Times Select died, I realized I could stop my home subscription. Becuase the only reason we got the Sunday paper was the eligibility for Times Select. So I asked my wife how she felt about this.

Her answer?

The Sunday Times is the last paper of any volume that comes into our house and is our last bastion against the scourge of dog pee.

Now that is a watershed moment in media architecture, when cleaning pee was the last reason you needed the paper.

I wish I could slice uop this stiry with an anecdite about how Mikey our Shih Tzu perferes to opee on certain bylines. But while cute, that would be a lie. Mikey pees indioscrimately on The Times.

I remain a dedicated reader. I'll just have to come up with pee alternatives.

Quite a week for Buzz Machine  -- from the butt ad to the pee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am almost embarrassed to tell this story, but it&#8217;s just too perfect.</p>
<p>The night Times Select died, I realized I could stop my home subscription. Becuase the only reason we got the Sunday paper was the eligibility for Times Select. So I asked my wife how she felt about this.</p>
<p>Her answer?</p>
<p>The Sunday Times is the last paper of any volume that comes into our house and is our last bastion against the scourge of dog pee.</p>
<p>Now that is a watershed moment in media architecture, when cleaning pee was the last reason you needed the paper.</p>
<p>I wish I could slice uop this stiry with an anecdite about how Mikey our Shih Tzu perferes to opee on certain bylines. But while cute, that would be a lie. Mikey pees indioscrimately on The Times.</p>
<p>I remain a dedicated reader. I&#8217;ll just have to come up with pee alternatives.</p>
<p>Quite a week for Buzz Machine  &#8212; from the butt ad to the pee.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; Times are changing for print&#8230; Happy Dude: Online mutterings and insights&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360637</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; Times are changing for print&#8230; Happy Dude: Online mutterings and insights&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In his Guardian column, Jeff Jarvis looks at the winners like Google and the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ydobon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360631</link>
		<dc:creator>Ydobon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This blog is the only shoot of new growth off of the dying tree stump of old media.

  As for TimesSelect you're right that it was doomed from the start.  The NY Times was still right to make the attempt, if only to convince its own staffers.

  I've been reading the archives from Nov 2004.  Great stuff, but trying to read the comments gets a 404 error.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This blog is the only shoot of new growth off of the dying tree stump of old media.</p>
<p>  As for TimesSelect you&#8217;re right that it was doomed from the start.  The NY Times was still right to make the attempt, if only to convince its own staffers.</p>
<p>  I&#8217;ve been reading the archives from Nov 2004.  Great stuff, but trying to read the comments gets a 404 error.</p>
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		<title>By: OnDemand Training</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360621</link>
		<dc:creator>OnDemand Training</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] decision of the New York Times to put and end toÂ its paywall, TimesSelect. (He also blogs about it here.)For some time, Jarvis has chronicled the mass media&#8217;s losing battleÂ  with Google. WithÂ a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] decision of the New York Times to put and end toÂ its paywall, TimesSelect. (He also blogs about it here.)For some time, Jarvis has chronicled the mass media&#8217;s losing battleÂ  with Google. WithÂ a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lynda Radosevich</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/09/24/guardian-column-whither-the-destination-and-brand/#comment-360620</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynda Radosevich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To get readers to promote and distribute its online content, the Times should give readers more voice by adding comments, uploadable news photos and more like CNN Exchange. Big brands are great, but the one-way flow doesn't have much appeal any more. Instead of asking "what would Google do?" I'd recommend asking "what would Wikipedia do?"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To get readers to promote and distribute its online content, the Times should give readers more voice by adding comments, uploadable news photos and more like CNN Exchange. Big brands are great, but the one-way flow doesn&#8217;t have much appeal any more. Instead of asking &#8220;what would Google do?&#8221; I&#8217;d recommend asking &#8220;what would Wikipedia do?&#8221;</p>
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