Comments on: Editor 2.0 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:51:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: he’s right! « the stories of our lives http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-377531 he’s right! « the stories of our lives Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:20:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-377531 [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...] [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...]

]]> By: he’s right! « the infotainment follies http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-377348 he’s right! « the infotainment follies Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:59:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-377348 [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...] [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...]

]]> By: John Grey http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-367365 John Grey Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:21:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-367365 / No. 1 qualification for journalist today: accepting change. Thank you, thank you. My email signature currently contains this Darwin quote, which Darwin almost certainly never said, but what the hell: "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change." Now, if only I could that that to sink in on the newsroom floor... / No. 1 qualification for journalist today: accepting change.

Thank you, thank you.

My email signature currently contains this Darwin quote, which Darwin almost certainly never said, but what the hell:

“It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the ones most responsive to change.”

Now, if only I could that that to sink in on the newsroom floor…

]]> By: Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh » Blog Archive » Marking up the NUJ's new media verdict http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364659 Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh » Blog Archive » Marking up the NUJ's new media verdict Thu, 06 Dec 2007 21:02:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364659 [...] - the one that prompted Roy Greenslade’s departure from the union, and the scorn of many others. This time out, Jeremy Dear’s foreward sets the right tone from the off by making a [...] [...] - the one that prompted Roy Greenslade’s departure from the union, and the scorn of many others. This time out, Jeremy Dear’s foreward sets the right tone from the off by making a [...]

]]> By: SÉRENDIPITÉ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364401 SÉRENDIPITÉ Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:01:38 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364401 [...] Jeff Jarvis (BuzzMachine) signale que le Guardian recherche un éditeur de balise (The Guardian wants a tag editor). [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis (BuzzMachine) signale que le Guardian recherche un éditeur de balise (The Guardian wants a tag editor). [...]

]]> By: Colin Kerr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364113 Colin Kerr Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:37:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-364113 Journalists who do not have online skills or are unwilling to learn these skills do not have a long-term future in the industry. Print will continue to be our core medium for years to come but we cannot ignore the growth of online media. Many companies are investing online and training their journalists to learn new skills. This will continue to happen with or without the NUJ. Journalists who do not have online skills or are unwilling to learn these skills do not have a long-term future in the industry.

Print will continue to be our core medium for years to come but we cannot ignore the growth of online media.

Many companies are investing online and training their journalists to learn new skills.

This will continue to happen with or without the NUJ.

]]> By: Editor Multimídia. Afinal o que é isso? - parte 2 « CIBERJORNALISMO http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-363607 Editor Multimídia. Afinal o que é isso? - parte 2 « CIBERJORNALISMO Wed, 21 Nov 2007 00:00:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-363607 [...] a entrevista.  Ele  encontrou  um post do António Granado chamado Editor 2.0, indicando um post homônimo do blog BuzzMachine, que é uma compilação de informações sobre o que deve ser o trabalho de editor no século [...] [...] a entrevista.  Ele  encontrou  um post do António Granado chamado Editor 2.0, indicando um post homônimo do blog BuzzMachine, que é uma compilação de informações sobre o que deve ser o trabalho de editor no século [...]

]]> By: News or knowledge curator? « HeyJude http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-363033 News or knowledge curator? « HeyJude Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:47:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-363033 [...] 2.0 I’ve been reading a bit about how news organizations are having to define the role of editor in the 21st century, i.e. Editor [...] [...] 2.0 I’ve been reading a bit about how news organizations are having to define the role of editor in the 21st century, i.e. Editor [...]

]]> By: charliebeckett.org » Blog Archive » Stand Up For Journalism http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362754 charliebeckett.org » Blog Archive » Stand Up For Journalism Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:17:08 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362754 [...] Neil MacIntosh has told the NUJ how to get its new media act together. US blogger Jeff Jarvis thought that the NUJ’s effort to describe how it would cope with new media was “whiny, [...] [...] Neil MacIntosh has told the NUJ how to get its new media act together. US blogger Jeff Jarvis thought that the NUJ’s effort to describe how it would cope with new media was “whiny, [...]

]]> By: An open letter to Roy Greenslade: Why I’m not leaving the NUJ « Online Journalism Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362737 An open letter to Roy Greenslade: Why I’m not leaving the NUJ « Online Journalism Blog Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:14:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362737 [...] what you foresee. And Jeff Jarvis has a point when he calls the forthcoming NUJ report a “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, preservation-instead-of-innovation faux...“, although I’m glad he’s since calmed [...] [...] what you foresee. And Jeff Jarvis has a point when he calls the forthcoming NUJ report a “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, preservation-instead-of-innovation faux…“, although I’m glad he’s since calmed [...]

]]> By: Ceci est un test » Blog Archive » To tag or not to tag http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362638 Ceci est un test » Blog Archive » To tag or not to tag Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:19:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362638 [...] assiste à un très intéressant phénomène d’éditorialisation des tags. Ainsi le journal The Guardian lancait récemment une offre d’emploi visant à recruter un "tag editor&quot... avec le profil de poste suivant : "Guardian Unlimited requires a keyword manager to look after [...] [...] assiste à un très intéressant phénomène d’éditorialisation des tags. Ainsi le journal The Guardian lancait récemment une offre d’emploi visant à recruter un "tag editor&quot… avec le profil de poste suivant : "Guardian Unlimited requires a keyword manager to look after [...]

]]> By: Does the NUJ understand the internet? « Reportr.net http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362615 Does the NUJ understand the internet? « Reportr.net Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:45:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362615 [...] And of course, no debate on online journalism would be complete without a contribution from blogger and Guardian columnist Jeff Jarvis. [...] [...] And of course, no debate on online journalism would be complete without a contribution from blogger and Guardian columnist Jeff Jarvis. [...]

]]> By: Blog Clippings » eCuaderno http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362576 Blog Clippings » eCuaderno Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:23:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362576 [...] BuzzMachine: Editor 2.0 [...] [...] BuzzMachine: Editor 2.0 [...]

]]> By: jepblog » Blog Archive » GASTBLOG: Was bringen Tags und Keywords? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362438 jepblog » Blog Archive » GASTBLOG: Was bringen Tags und Keywords? Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:27:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362438 [...] im Online-Journalismus, denkt an Online-Producer, Videoreporter oder Community-Manager. In den Stellenanzeigen britischer Medienhäuser taucht in diesen Tagen eine weitere Job-Beschreibung auf, die sicherlich bald auch in deutschen [...] [...] im Online-Journalismus, denkt an Online-Producer, Videoreporter oder Community-Manager. In den Stellenanzeigen britischer Medienhäuser taucht in diesen Tagen eine weitere Job-Beschreibung auf, die sicherlich bald auch in deutschen [...]

]]> By: O QUE FAZ UM EDITOR MULTIMÍDIA? : André Deak http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362392 O QUE FAZ UM EDITOR MULTIMÍDIA? : André Deak Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:01:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362392 [...] curiosamente, achei um post do António Granado chamado Editor 2.0, indicando um post homônimo do blog BuzzMachine, que é uma compilação de informações sobre o que deve ser o trabalho de editor no século 21. [...] [...] curiosamente, achei um post do António Granado chamado Editor 2.0, indicando um post homônimo do blog BuzzMachine, que é uma compilação de informações sobre o que deve ser o trabalho de editor no século 21. [...]

]]> By: Quem nos acode? « Atrium - Media e Cidadania http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362376 Quem nos acode? « Atrium - Media e Cidadania Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:00:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362376 [...] discussões. Um texto escrito por Jeff Jarvis há dias encaixa nesse perfil. Sob o título “Editor 2.0“, o texto é uma espécie de percurso guiado de sugestões de leituras secundárias com a [...] [...] discussões. Um texto escrito por Jeff Jarvis há dias encaixa nesse perfil. Sob o título “Editor 2.0“, o texto é uma espécie de percurso guiado de sugestões de leituras secundárias com a [...]

]]> By: ABC Digital Futures » Blog Archive » Traditional media must link beyond its own content http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362318 ABC Digital Futures » Blog Archive » Traditional media must link beyond its own content Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:44:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362318 [...] Jeff Jarvis has picked up on this challenge for media workers and asked them to create the job description of the 21st century editor. In doing so, he notes that The Guardian has hired a ‘tag editor’ and that The Times of London has hired a ’search editor’. [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis has picked up on this challenge for media workers and asked them to create the job description of the 21st century editor. In doing so, he notes that The Guardian has hired a ‘tag editor’ and that The Times of London has hired a ’search editor’. [...]

]]> By: The NUJ and new media: What’s all the fuss about? : Journalism.co.uk editors blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362226 The NUJ and new media: What’s all the fuss about? : Journalism.co.uk editors blog Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:08:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362226 [...] Jarvis, whose first reaction to the NUJ’s article was that it was a “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, [...] [...] Jarvis, whose first reaction to the NUJ’s article was that it was a “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, [...]

]]> By: The Guardian Wants a Tag Editor » The Bivings Report http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362191 The Guardian Wants a Tag Editor » The Bivings Report Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:11:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362191 [...] few days ago Jeff Jarvis over at BuzzMachine noticed an ad for a Tag Editor (Editor 2.0?) job at Britain's The Guardian.  Jarvis explained this is exciting [...] [...] few days ago Jeff Jarvis over at BuzzMachine noticed an ad for a Tag Editor (Editor 2.0?) job at Britain's The Guardian.  Jarvis explained this is exciting [...]

]]> By: Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh » Blog Archive » NUJ: is it "hypocritical" to remain a member? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362179 Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh » Blog Archive » NUJ: is it "hypocritical" to remain a member? Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:24:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362179 [...] and even across the Atlantic - has emerged.  First up was US-based Jeff Jarvis, not holding back, attacking the “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, [...] [...] and even across the Atlantic - has emerged.  First up was US-based Jeff Jarvis, not holding back, attacking the “whiny, territorial, ass-covering, protecting-the-priesthood, [...]

]]> By: he’s right! — infotainment rules http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362176 he’s right! — infotainment rules Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:56:26 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362176 [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...] [...] And Jeff Jarvis: he lets it all hang out! [...]

]]> By: Podnosh Blog : High Fibre Podcasting » Archive » links for 2007-10-24 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362150 Podnosh Blog : High Fibre Podcasting » Archive » links for 2007-10-24 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:22:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362150 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Editor 2.0 (tags: citizen+journalism citizenjournalism social+networks community+media media web2.0) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Editor 2.0 (tags: citizen+journalism citizenjournalism social+networks community+media media web2.0) [...]

]]> By: Donnacha DeLong http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362147 Donnacha DeLong Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:55:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362147 "Oh, ferchrissakes. Bring back wooden type. How many of those kvetchers are going to be qualified to act as search or tagging editor … or survive on their own when they’re laid off?" Let's see, the Commission includes - two journalists from Guardian Unlimited, one from BBC Online, one senior website editor - yup, I think we'd all be qualified. You might want to have a look at my previous piece on these issues, published in the Press Gazette - http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=37813, if you're interested in facts rather than general ranting. “Oh, ferchrissakes. Bring back wooden type. How many of those kvetchers are going to be qualified to act as search or tagging editor … or survive on their own when they’re laid off?”

Let’s see, the Commission includes - two journalists from Guardian Unlimited, one from BBC Online, one senior website editor - yup, I think we’d all be qualified. You might want to have a look at my previous piece on these issues, published in the Press Gazette - http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=37813, if you’re interested in facts rather than general ranting.

]]> By: The Editor As Curator Of ALL The News On The Web » Publish2 Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362122 The Editor As Curator Of ALL The News On The Web » Publish2 Blog Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:35:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362122 [...] Jarvis challenges news organizations to define the role of editor in the 21st century, i.e. Editor 2.0. Jeff connects a number of dots that involve a significant, even radical shift in [...] [...] Jarvis challenges news organizations to define the role of editor in the 21st century, i.e. Editor 2.0. Jeff connects a number of dots that involve a significant, even radical shift in [...]

]]> By: Badger Gravling http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362110 Badger Gravling Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:38:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/22/editor-20/#comment-362110 I can see why that report gives the impression that it's anti-change, but at the same time, when you look at some of the individual points raised, it's about the way online is integrated, rather than the fact it's happening... If you're able to give someone a video camera, mobile phone with a decent camera, and a laptop PC and give them the time to experiment, they'll embrace the chance... If you tell someone who is working flat out to produce a print product that they now also have to shoot video, write the web copy, sub it themselves, publish it, meta tag it etc for no extra incentive, and with no recognition, it's unsurprising that they won't engage and find the best ways to do it... I don't think anyone can argue that copy should simply be copy and pasted across and work adequately online, which is why I've just spent a morning subbing, SEO'ing and meta tagging such work. But to do that effectively and efficiently requires knowledge, and often training... particularly around the legal aspects of publishing. Incidentally for the veteran journo...SEO has led to a huge jump in traffic figures for various sites with which I'm involved. None of it has been radically inventive, and all of it has been common sense and fairly simple to implement. Just treat it with the same importance that you place on making sure your product is visibly on display in shops and you'll be fine... I can see why that report gives the impression that it’s anti-change, but at the same time, when you look at some of the individual points raised, it’s about the way online is integrated, rather than the fact it’s happening…

If you’re able to give someone a video camera, mobile phone with a decent camera, and a laptop PC and give them the time to experiment, they’ll embrace the chance…

If you tell someone who is working flat out to produce a print product that they now also have to shoot video, write the web copy, sub it themselves, publish it, meta tag it etc for no extra incentive, and with no recognition, it’s unsurprising that they won’t engage and find the best ways to do it…

I don’t think anyone can argue that copy should simply be copy and pasted across and work adequately online, which is why I’ve just spent a morning subbing, SEO’ing and meta tagging such work. But to do that effectively and efficiently requires knowledge, and often training… particularly around the legal aspects of publishing.

Incidentally for the veteran journo…SEO has led to a huge jump in traffic figures for various sites with which I’m involved. None of it has been radically inventive, and all of it has been common sense and fairly simple to implement. Just treat it with the same importance that you place on making sure your product is visibly on display in shops and you’ll be fine…

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