Comments on: Leaving the union http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:03:50 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation & the Web » Blog Archive » The Relevance of Journalist Unions http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362344 Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation & the Web » Blog Archive » The Relevance of Journalist Unions Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:15:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362344 [...] Jarvis looks at reasoning behind resigning from the National Union of Journalists. “… the union, as with the print unions of old, cannot possibly adapt to meet the [...] [...] Jarvis looks at reasoning behind resigning from the National Union of Journalists. “… the union, as with the print unions of old, cannot possibly adapt to meet the [...]

]]> By: Ed Driscoll.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362204 Ed Driscoll.com Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:32:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362204 <strong>Leaving The Union...</strong> Jeff Jarvis:Roy Greenslade, a fixture of British journalism — former newspaper editor, now journalism professor and newspaper columnist and blogger — writes a powerful post today submitting his resignation to the National Union of Journalists there. ... Leaving The Union…

Jeff Jarvis:Roy Greenslade, a fixture of British journalism — former newspaper editor, now journalism professor and newspaper columnist and blogger — writes a powerful post today submitting his resignation to the National Union of Journalists there. …

]]> By: Jay Rosen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362198 Jay Rosen Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:17:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362198 "Print is not dead, nor even unwell, despite the technophiles who promised us a paperless office 40 years ago." That is almost the perfect newsroom curmudgeon statement. It boasts of a "know nothing" mindset. "The problem with Web 2.0 is [...] how it's seen as replacing traditional media." This is also a canonical statement in curmudgeon literature. “Print is not dead, nor even unwell, despite the technophiles who promised us a paperless office 40 years ago.”

That is almost the perfect newsroom curmudgeon statement. It boasts of a “know nothing” mindset.

“The problem with Web 2.0 is [...] how it’s seen as replacing traditional media.” This is also a canonical statement in curmudgeon literature.

]]> By: Shane Richmond http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362193 Shane Richmond Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:51:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362193 @Eric Criticism I can handle. Badly argued assaults on a straw man version of reality are irritating, particularly from the man who is supposed to represent new media interests within the union. @Eric

Criticism I can handle. Badly argued assaults on a straw man version of reality are irritating, particularly from the man who is supposed to represent new media interests within the union.

]]> By: Eric Gauvin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362187 Eric Gauvin Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:25:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362187 @Shane If web 2.0 is so wonderful, why would it make you want to tear your hair out if there's criticism of it? I think Donnacha makes some very good and valid points. From the moment I heard "web 2.0" I was skeptical, and I think it will go down in history as a brief fad that did more harm (confusion and hype) than good. @Shane

If web 2.0 is so wonderful, why would it make you want to tear your hair out if there’s criticism of it? I think Donnacha makes some very good and valid points. From the moment I heard “web 2.0″ I was skeptical, and I think it will go down in history as a brief fad that did more harm (confusion and hype) than good.

]]> By: Jay Rosen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362186 Jay Rosen Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:12:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362186 re: Greenslade. Wowzer. Quite a letter. The Donnacha piece is a classic in curmudgeon lit, Shane. Greenslade's advice: don't ignore the curmudgeons. Disassociate from them. re: Greenslade. Wowzer. Quite a letter.

The Donnacha piece is a classic in curmudgeon lit, Shane.

Greenslade’s advice: don’t ignore the curmudgeons. Disassociate from them.

]]> By: Shane Richmond http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362185 Shane Richmond Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:04:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362185 Jeff, Donnacha has posted the full text of his article 'Web 2.0 is rubbish' on his own blog: http://donnachadelong.blogspot.com/2007/10/journalist-article.html It was that article that had me tearing my hair out in the first place... Jeff,

Donnacha has posted the full text of his article ‘Web 2.0 is rubbish’ on his own blog: http://donnachadelong.blogspot.com/2007/10/journalist-article.html

It was that article that had me tearing my hair out in the first place…

]]> By: Leaving the union at Vevz.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362184 Leaving the union at Vevz.com Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:25:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/25/leaving-the-union/#comment-362184 [...] Original post by BuzzMachine [...] [...] Original post by BuzzMachine [...]

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