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	<title>Comments on: Regrets? I&#8217;ve had a few, but then again&#8230;</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: Xaaraan - Il blog di Antonella Beccaria &#187; Regret the Error: i sbagli e le responsabilità dei media</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xaaraan - Il blog di Antonella Beccaria &#187; Regret the Error: i sbagli e le responsabilità dei media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ellen Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/29/regrets-ive-had-a-few-but-then-again/#comment-362388</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Jeff. I think I'd like to make a banner of these two sentences "In the end, this is about instilling an ethic of transparency â€“ even about our fallibility and foibles â€“ in journalism, professional and amateur. It is about being unafraid to speak in our imperfect human voice instead of hiding behind the cold, castle walls of the institution" and hang it across the Capitol dome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Jeff. I think I&#8217;d like to make a banner of these two sentences &#8220;In the end, this is about instilling an ethic of transparency â€“ even about our fallibility and foibles â€“ in journalism, professional and amateur. It is about being unafraid to speak in our imperfect human voice instead of hiding behind the cold, castle walls of the institution&#8221; and hang it across the Capitol dome.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Francis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/29/regrets-ive-had-a-few-but-then-again/#comment-362381</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Francis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a legacy journalist myself, your post brings to mind that expression heard around the newsrooms of old: Editors are not always right, but they're never wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a legacy journalist myself, your post brings to mind that expression heard around the newsrooms of old: Editors are not always right, but they&#8217;re never wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Freeman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/29/regrets-ive-had-a-few-but-then-again/#comment-362372</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; Itâ€™s the unique visibility and nature of the journalistâ€™s profession that must make this problem even more painful.

There's another difference - other professions don't see themselves as "watchmen", which is all well and good, and haven't taken it upon themselves to trash other folks who make mistakes, which isn't.

Journalists like to point to their grand intents, but given their actual delivery, is it really surprising that no one cares what happens to them?  (No - their intent doesn't count nearly as much as the reasonably forseeable consequences of their actions.  In fact, their reliance on the former as a defense when the latter comes up is merely evidence of insanity.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Itâ€™s the unique visibility and nature of the journalistâ€™s profession that must make this problem even more painful.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another difference - other professions don&#8217;t see themselves as &#8220;watchmen&#8221;, which is all well and good, and haven&#8217;t taken it upon themselves to trash other folks who make mistakes, which isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Journalists like to point to their grand intents, but given their actual delivery, is it really surprising that no one cares what happens to them?  (No - their intent doesn&#8217;t count nearly as much as the reasonably forseeable consequences of their actions.  In fact, their reliance on the former as a defense when the latter comes up is merely evidence of insanity.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dykeman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dykeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris's book and blog sound very interesting.  Everyone everywhere at any time has the potential to make a mistake.  I appreciate the fact that you, Jeff, are sticking your own neck out a bit to acknowledge this concern.  To be fair, however, journalists are no different than many other professionals who sometimes reluctant to admitting errors.  It's the unique visibility and nature of the journalist's profession that must make this problem even more painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris&#8217;s book and blog sound very interesting.  Everyone everywhere at any time has the potential to make a mistake.  I appreciate the fact that you, Jeff, are sticking your own neck out a bit to acknowledge this concern.  To be fair, however, journalists are no different than many other professionals who sometimes reluctant to admitting errors.  It&#8217;s the unique visibility and nature of the journalist&#8217;s profession that must make this problem even more painful.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Boriss</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/29/regrets-ive-had-a-few-but-then-again/#comment-362366</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Boriss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, So maybe you think my suggestion about your next summit wasn't such a bad idea after all?  "&lt;a href="http://thefutureofnews.com/2007/10/14/the-nyc-summit-that-journalists-should-have-had-how-to-get-audiences-to-like-them-again/" rel="nofollow"&gt;The NYC summit that journalists should have had: How to get audiences to like them again&lt;/a&gt;"  (Steve Boriss, &lt;a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Future of News&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, So maybe you think my suggestion about your next summit wasn&#8217;t such a bad idea after all?  &#8220;<a href="http://thefutureofnews.com/2007/10/14/the-nyc-summit-that-journalists-should-have-had-how-to-get-audiences-to-like-them-again/" rel="nofollow">The NYC summit that journalists should have had: How to get audiences to like them again</a>&#8221;  (Steve Boriss, <a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow">The Future of News</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: Trudy W. Schuett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trudy W. Schuett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being willing to correct mistakes can be an "interesting" proposition.

For example, several months ago, I wrote a piece on women who kill their husbands and then use the "battered women" defense at Dean's World, where I'm a contributor. Not only was the Mary Winkler story in the news, but we'd had several similar incidents in my local area.

A couple of weeks ago I got e-mail from someone who claimed to know one of the local suspects intimately, and insisted what I was saying was "lies, all lies" or something to that effect. So I e-mailed back, with a request for more specifics. Also suggested he or she (it was one of those first names that could be either one) contact the local newspaper and TV stations with any corrections to the story.

The points I'd been working with were several accounts from police who reported multiple past instances of domestic violence, where it was clear to them the female suspect was the offender. These had been reported on the TV stations and one local newspaper.

After a couple of e-mail exchanges, it came clear that my correspondent, who turned out to be the suspect's sister, could not discredit anything in either my blog entry or news accounts; her primary interest was in keeping the issue out of the news, because she was afraid the suspect's children would see negative things about their mother and be somehow damaged by the revelation. As if these kids, ages 9, 13, and 18 were entirely unaware of anything amiss in their mother's behavior and would only find out by reading my stuff online.  

People sometimes have a weird concept of news altogether, especially when it affects them personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being willing to correct mistakes can be an &#8220;interesting&#8221; proposition.</p>
<p>For example, several months ago, I wrote a piece on women who kill their husbands and then use the &#8220;battered women&#8221; defense at Dean&#8217;s World, where I&#8217;m a contributor. Not only was the Mary Winkler story in the news, but we&#8217;d had several similar incidents in my local area.</p>
<p>A couple of weeks ago I got e-mail from someone who claimed to know one of the local suspects intimately, and insisted what I was saying was &#8220;lies, all lies&#8221; or something to that effect. So I e-mailed back, with a request for more specifics. Also suggested he or she (it was one of those first names that could be either one) contact the local newspaper and TV stations with any corrections to the story.</p>
<p>The points I&#8217;d been working with were several accounts from police who reported multiple past instances of domestic violence, where it was clear to them the female suspect was the offender. These had been reported on the TV stations and one local newspaper.</p>
<p>After a couple of e-mail exchanges, it came clear that my correspondent, who turned out to be the suspect&#8217;s sister, could not discredit anything in either my blog entry or news accounts; her primary interest was in keeping the issue out of the news, because she was afraid the suspect&#8217;s children would see negative things about their mother and be somehow damaged by the revelation. As if these kids, ages 9, 13, and 18 were entirely unaware of anything amiss in their mother&#8217;s behavior and would only find out by reading my stuff online.  </p>
<p>People sometimes have a weird concept of news altogether, especially when it affects them personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Conrad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itâ€™s interesting that the way old media handles their mistakes is far less â€œopenâ€ than most large new media sites. If a newspaper prints an error, itâ€™s there for a day at least, and the correction is often extremely inadequate (this habit has moved to online newspaper sites too: they think readers canâ€™t cope with seeing a strike through some incorrect info, with an explanation of â€œUpdate:â€ underneath).

If a major blog prints an error, itâ€™s often corrected within minutes (or hours), and the former error remains there for everyone to see.

Of course, blogs tend to make a lot more errors. So, youâ€™re kinda screwed whichever way you go: which brings us back to square one. â€œThe medium is the message.â€

Update: I added a strike tag, thinking it wouldn't recognize it! Please delete the previous comment :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itâ€™s interesting that the way old media handles their mistakes is far less â€œopenâ€ than most large new media sites. If a newspaper prints an error, itâ€™s there for a day at least, and the correction is often extremely inadequate (this habit has moved to online newspaper sites too: they think readers canâ€™t cope with seeing a strike through some incorrect info, with an explanation of â€œUpdate:â€ underneath).</p>
<p>If a major blog prints an error, itâ€™s often corrected within minutes (or hours), and the former error remains there for everyone to see.</p>
<p>Of course, blogs tend to make a lot more errors. So, youâ€™re kinda screwed whichever way you go: which brings us back to square one. â€œThe medium is the message.â€</p>
<p>Update: I added a strike tag, thinking it wouldn&#8217;t recognize it! Please delete the previous comment <img src='http://www.buzzmachine.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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