Comments on: A new Yahoo? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:09:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Cenineple http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-363936 Cenineple Tue, 27 Nov 2007 05:28:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-363936 lol :) lkdadsd lol :)
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]]> By: renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll » Blog Archive » The onramp http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362719 renaissance chambara | Ged Carroll » Blog Archive » The onramp Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:33:06 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362719 [...] about Google’s OpenSocial, explanation here. With this corresponding praise of Google, came some soul-searching about [...] [...] about Google’s OpenSocial, explanation here. With this corresponding praise of Google, came some soul-searching about [...]

]]> By: Robert Hooker http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362709 Robert Hooker Sun, 04 Nov 2007 08:57:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362709 Yahoo failed in the search space for the reason it is failing in the social space and why, despite a huge presence, given time the market logic will free the Internet of a dino like Yahoo: they want to control everything. Flickr is an excellent case of the Yahoo problem. One of the few bright lights of the Yahoo night Flickr has provided really no new user interfaces and services in 2 years, not even a spell checker yet!!!! Its performance remains poor and as it becomes more popular often features lag so long they become unusuable. But in this time where the paying users got nothing they were forced to create Yahoo acocunts and now are forced to apply moral metadata tagging to all their photos. Yahoo has gone as far as to define all German speaking users as having the rights of children!!!! Yahoo wants to rule the world but fails to learn the Microsoft strategy: if you want to make trillions and dominate a market in software let people make their own stuff with your stuff, be there all the time but invisible. Yahoo failed in the search space for the reason it is failing in the social space and why, despite a huge presence, given time the market logic will free the Internet of a dino like Yahoo: they want to control everything.

Flickr is an excellent case of the Yahoo problem. One of the few bright lights of the Yahoo night Flickr has provided really no new user interfaces and services in 2 years, not even a spell checker yet!!!! Its performance remains poor and as it becomes more popular often features lag so long they become unusuable. But in this time where the paying users got nothing they were forced to create Yahoo acocunts and now are forced to apply moral metadata tagging to all their photos. Yahoo has gone as far as to define all German speaking users as having the rights of children!!!!

Yahoo wants to rule the world but fails to learn the Microsoft strategy: if you want to make trillions and dominate a market in software let people make their own stuff with your stuff, be there all the time but invisible.

]]> By: How to make Yahoo visible : NevilleHobson.com http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362655 How to make Yahoo visible : NevilleHobson.com Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:51:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362655 [...] Jarvis, one of the invited group, has a good write-up of how he saw the evening. One of his concluding remarks is pretty much spot on: […] I think what we witnessed [...] [...] Jarvis, one of the invited group, has a good write-up of how he saw the evening. One of his concluding remarks is pretty much spot on: […] I think what we witnessed [...]

]]> By: 5tacos http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362637 5tacos Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:46:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362637 Yahoo should stop fishing in red waters. Facebook, Opensocial, Ning, etc have this hook line and sinker. Yahoo should be trying to leap their competition at this stage vs. Trying to play catchup. 5tacos www.phivetacos.blogspot.com Yahoo should stop fishing in red waters. Facebook, Opensocial, Ning, etc have this hook line and sinker. Yahoo should be trying to leap their competition at this stage vs. Trying to play catchup.

5tacos
http://www.phivetacos.blogspot.com

]]> By: Seth E http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362616 Seth E Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:02:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362616 We have, of course, heard of del.icio.us, of Flickr, of Upcoming, etc. They don't have to open up as a platform because there buying all the infrastructure that constitutes Web2/New Media's 'platform'. We have, of course, heard of del.icio.us, of Flickr, of Upcoming, etc. They don’t have to open up as a platform because there buying all the infrastructure that constitutes Web2/New Media’s ‘platform’.

]]> By: Tim Oren http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362610 Tim Oren Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:31:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362610 I can't be the only one who's noticed the nearly 1-1 correlation between businesses that crow about how they 'own consumers' and those that are shortly thereafter - if not already - in serious trouble. These guys either don't understand the implications of their rhetoric, or they still don't have the company united in a coherent strategic direction. (Or both.) I can’t be the only one who’s noticed the nearly 1-1 correlation between businesses that crow about how they ‘own consumers’ and those that are shortly thereafter - if not already - in serious trouble.

These guys either don’t understand the implications of their rhetoric, or they still don’t have the company united in a coherent strategic direction. (Or both.)

]]> By: Bob Warfield http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362609 Bob Warfield Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:29:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362609 Yahoo is falling far behind, particularly in the wake of Google's new Social Networking API. It is interesting to contemplate whether Yahoo should embrace it. I think they should. In the short-term, it is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. But in the longer term, the potential that comes from linking disparate social networks may make it worthwhile. Yahoo might just strike a tolerable deal behind closed doors with Google to share some of those spoils if they move before their position erodes further. Here are thoughts on how businesses could use a true meta-Social Network built on these API's: http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/ubiquitous-social-networks-for-business/ Yahoo is falling far behind, particularly in the wake of Google’s new Social Networking API. It is interesting to contemplate whether Yahoo should embrace it. I think they should. In the short-term, it is giving aid and comfort to the enemy. But in the longer term, the potential that comes from linking disparate social networks may make it worthwhile. Yahoo might just strike a tolerable deal behind closed doors with Google to share some of those spoils if they move before their position erodes further.

Here are thoughts on how businesses could use a true meta-Social Network built on these API’s:

http://smoothspan.wordpress.com/2007/10/31/ubiquitous-social-networks-for-business/

]]> By: Seni Thomas http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362607 Seni Thomas Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:10:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362607 Interesting insights. I 100% agree with you on the negative aspects of portals. However, there are a few strengths that portals clench on to. Ad Hoc Networks: http://senithomas.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/the-power-of-portals-ad-hoc-communities/ Interesting insights. I 100% agree with you on the negative aspects of portals. However, there are a few strengths that portals clench on to.

Ad Hoc Networks:

http://senithomas.wordpress.com/2007/10/24/the-power-of-portals-ad-hoc-communities/

]]> By: Gray http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362603 Gray Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:17:43 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/10/31/a-new-yahoo/#comment-362603 Jeff, OT, but derwesten.de is up! I already peeked into it, but so far I'm not exactly overwhelmed. Yup, it's nice, people get to local news online, but imho the true power of geotagging hasn't been unlashed yet. As an unregistered user, I haven't yet managed how to find news on the map. I swucceeded in geotagging two news reports (a hand-bag theft and a hit-and-run driving), ok, but no other news in those vicinities showed up. Unsatisfying. Or is the feature reserved for registered users only? That would be a serious error of judgment, unnecessarily reducing the benefit of the site for all those casual visitors who don't want to open up a profile there (knowing my fellow Germans, certainly the majority). Well, what do you think? Already had the chance to check the site? Jeff, OT, but derwesten.de is up! I already peeked into it, but so far I’m not exactly overwhelmed. Yup, it’s nice, people get to local news online, but imho the true power of geotagging hasn’t been unlashed yet. As an unregistered user, I haven’t yet managed how to find news on the map. I swucceeded in geotagging two news reports (a hand-bag theft and a hit-and-run driving), ok, but no other news in those vicinities showed up. Unsatisfying. Or is the feature reserved for registered users only? That would be a serious error of judgment, unnecessarily reducing the benefit of the site for all those casual visitors who don’t want to open up a profile there (knowing my fellow Germans, certainly the majority).

Well, what do you think? Already had the chance to check the site?

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