Comments on: A can-do attitude? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:40:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363705 Jeff Jarvis Fri, 23 Nov 2007 00:14:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363705 But I will do what I very, very rarely do here; Ban this Ettorre person. But I will do what I very, very rarely do here; Ban this Ettorre person.

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363696 Jeff Jarvis Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:15:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363696 John, Why don't you scroll down and see the post about a death in my family. Going back and forth with you and your predictable, oft-repeated arguments and attacks is hardly a priority. It's thanksgiving, so I'll refrain from references to turkeys. John,

Why don’t you scroll down and see the post about a death in my family. Going back and forth with you and your predictable, oft-repeated arguments and attacks is hardly a priority.

It’s thanksgiving, so I’ll refrain from references to turkeys.

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363693 John Ettorre Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:06:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363693 My last word on this, Jeff: you really ought to stop patting yourself on the back so frequently about how for you, blogging isn't about publishing so much as it is about having a conversation. I've noticed that, as here, you tend to only converse with those who agree with you. Sorry to have to say it, but you're a phony. My last word on this, Jeff: you really ought to stop patting yourself on the back so frequently about how for you, blogging isn’t about publishing so much as it is about having a conversation. I’ve noticed that, as here, you tend to only converse with those who agree with you. Sorry to have to say it, but you’re a phony.

]]> By: Dow Jones Exec: free WSJ site is ‘jumping the gun’ « News by the Numbers http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363471 Dow Jones Exec: free WSJ site is ‘jumping the gun’ « News by the Numbers Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:46:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363471 [...] Jarvis wrote about his time at News Corp. on BuzzMachine.  He tells an eye-opening anecdote of the News Corp. philosophy on decision making and give some [...] [...] Jarvis wrote about his time at News Corp. on BuzzMachine.  He tells an eye-opening anecdote of the News Corp. philosophy on decision making and give some [...]

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363405 John Ettorre Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:49:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363405 Good point, Amused. Indeed, he does seem to be echoing the ever-embarrassing Michael Wolff a little in his slavish regard for Rupert's brilliance (at least he seems to have given up an on equally thankless task, arguing on behalf of the brilliance of Howard Stern). And do note that he's yet to engage anyone on this issue. Good point, Amused. Indeed, he does seem to be echoing the ever-embarrassing Michael Wolff a little in his slavish regard for Rupert’s brilliance (at least he seems to have given up an on equally thankless task, arguing on behalf of the brilliance of Howard Stern). And do note that he’s yet to engage anyone on this issue.

]]> By: Eric Gauvin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363397 Eric Gauvin Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:00:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363397 Yes. Jeff has a very strong "can-talk" attitude. It's good to see he values a "can-do" attitude. Perhaps he'll take it up someday. Yes. Jeff has a very strong “can-talk” attitude. It’s good to see he values a “can-do” attitude. Perhaps he’ll take it up someday.

]]> By: Amused http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363395 Amused Sat, 17 Nov 2007 10:12:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363395 Jeff won't be mentioning Rupert's genuflection to the Chinese dictatorship which bangs people up for 15 years for saying something out of turn on the internet. Won't mention the fact that Rupert disparaged the Dalai Lama by describing him as a "very political old monk shuffling around in Gucci shoes". His wife Wendi, who Rupert has kindly appointed as his "strategy chief" for MySpace China, said of Tibet: "I don't think anyone got killed there." Charming couple - in bed with dictators. He won't mention the fact that unelected Rupert, a tax dodger, has for so long exerted undue political influence in Britain, through his media interests and cosy chats at No. 10... Shall I go on? Jeff won’t be mentioning Rupert’s genuflection to the Chinese dictatorship which bangs people up for 15 years for saying something out of turn on the internet.

Won’t mention the fact that Rupert disparaged the Dalai Lama by describing him as a “very political old monk shuffling around in Gucci shoes”. His wife Wendi, who Rupert has kindly appointed as his “strategy chief” for MySpace China, said of Tibet: “I don’t think anyone got killed there.” Charming couple – in bed with dictators.

He won’t mention the fact that unelected Rupert, a tax dodger, has for so long exerted undue political influence in Britain, through his media interests and cosy chats at No. 10…

Shall I go on?

]]> By: Amused http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363391 Amused Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:19:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363391 Jeff's in evangelical Murdoch worshiping mode again, usual hectoring. No wonder he hates unions so much. Perhaps Jeff is angling for a job - Rupert loves yes men. Jeff’s in evangelical Murdoch worshiping mode again, usual hectoring. No wonder he hates unions so much. Perhaps Jeff is angling for a job – Rupert loves yes men.

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363379 John Ettorre Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:38:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363379 How nice to see several smart readers making some smart points, rather than the usual hosannas to our host, agreeing with everything he says, however misguided. Jeff, you're a smart guy and a facile writer, but your boundless, uncritical enthusiasm for blowing up everything in traditional journalism (thereby throwing the good out with the bad) seems to be wearing a bit thin. Glad to see I'm not alone in thinking that. Perhaps this is the beginning of a return to sanity. How nice to see several smart readers making some smart points, rather than the usual hosannas to our host, agreeing with everything he says, however misguided. Jeff, you’re a smart guy and a facile writer, but your boundless, uncritical enthusiasm for blowing up everything in traditional journalism (thereby throwing the good out with the bad) seems to be wearing a bit thin. Glad to see I’m not alone in thinking that. Perhaps this is the beginning of a return to sanity.

]]> By: Evan Rudowski http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363355 Evan Rudowski Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:37:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363355 Jeez Jeff, Isn't it a bit much to belittle someone like Michael Rooney, who is generating $50 million a year in paid content revenue for his company, for wanting to be cautious about changing the model? Your story about your magazine launch at News Corporation was enjoyable (having worked there myself for a time) but given how it fizzled out so quickly it suggests that a little more planning might have been advisable. More like "can try" than "can do" -- because in the case of that launch, the actual outcome was "couldn't do." Kudos to Michael Rooney for looking to protect $50 million in paid content subscription revenues. Standing up against the "content is free" drumbeat takes guts. Revenues are good too. Best wishes, Evan Rudowski Jeez Jeff,

Isn’t it a bit much to belittle someone like Michael Rooney, who is generating $50 million a year in paid content revenue for his company, for wanting to be cautious about changing the model?

Your story about your magazine launch at News Corporation was enjoyable (having worked there myself for a time) but given how it fizzled out so quickly it suggests that a little more planning might have been advisable. More like “can try” than “can do” — because in the case of that launch, the actual outcome was “couldn’t do.”

Kudos to Michael Rooney for looking to protect $50 million in paid content subscription revenues. Standing up against the “content is free” drumbeat takes guts. Revenues are good too.

Best wishes,
Evan Rudowski

]]> By: O-Shift http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363343 O-Shift Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:42:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363343 Realize Murdoch is can-do, but is this how he does it? Makes summary comment without bothering to send a twitter to WSJ management about it? Good sign for the future. , Realize Murdoch is can-do, but is this how he does it? Makes summary comment without bothering to send a twitter to WSJ management about it? Good sign for the future.

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]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363342 Andy Freeman Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:40:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363342 I know that we're talking about the WSJ. Does Ettorre really want to argue that it's the only place where serious journalism is done? I know that we’re talking about the WSJ. Does Ettorre really want to argue that it’s the only place where serious journalism is done?

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363336 John Ettorre Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:36:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363336 And by the way, I mean that not unkindly. I just didn't quite understand how you could jump off to these other unrelated examples of poor or fluffy journalism when the subject was the WSJ, which is famously unfluffy and almost never poorly done. And by the way, I mean that not unkindly. I just didn’t quite understand how you could jump off to these other unrelated examples of poor or fluffy journalism when the subject was the WSJ, which is famously unfluffy and almost never poorly done.

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363333 John Ettorre Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:12:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363333 Open your eyes and read, Andy. We're talking about the Wall Street Journal here. Which is and has been about as serious as you get in journalism, but which many fear will not remain that way for long. Open your eyes and read, Andy. We’re talking about the Wall Street Journal here. Which is and has been about as serious as you get in journalism, but which many fear will not remain that way for long.

]]> By: Andy Freeman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363331 Andy Freeman Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:49:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363331 Where is this serious journalism to be found? Is it in the AP, which reported that Paris Hilton was going to Africa to care for drunk elephants? Was it CBS with Dan Rather, carrying on Cronkite's tradtion? How about NBC's exploding trucks? Who carried the monkey-fishing stories? Where is this serious journalism to be found? Is it in the AP, which reported that Paris Hilton was going to Africa to care for drunk elephants? Was it CBS with Dan Rather, carrying on Cronkite’s tradtion? How about NBC’s exploding trucks? Who carried the monkey-fishing stories?

]]> By: Tansley - addendum http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363271 Tansley - addendum Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:09:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363271 Mmmm... have to agree with Mr. Ettorre to an extent, here, Jeff. Yes, it's a good decision to go free...yes, Newscorp/Citizen Murdoch is a 'git 'er DONE' kind of environment... and, to be perfectly honest, it's still a bit early to be discussing this whole acquisition in tones reminiscent of the last asteroidal IMPACT, but I can't get rid of this nagging feeling that something just ain't RIGHT in DENMARK...or on WALL STREET, for that matter... Mmmm… have to agree with Mr. Ettorre to an extent, here, Jeff. Yes, it’s a good decision to go free…yes, Newscorp/Citizen Murdoch is a ‘git ‘er DONE’ kind of environment… and, to be perfectly honest, it’s still a bit early to be discussing this whole acquisition in tones reminiscent of the last asteroidal IMPACT, but I can’t get rid of this nagging feeling that something just ain’t RIGHT in DENMARK…or on WALL STREET, for that matter…

]]> By: John Ettorre http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363266 John Ettorre Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:37:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363266 No, and he's not going to be at a good, respectable, ethical company anymore, either. Which is why most serious people who care about and worry over serious journalism are lamenting (or worse) the ownership of a crown jewel of good journalism being in the hands of a deeply dishonorable person like Murdoch. The fact that you equate things at the WSJ to your prior experience at an enabler of the idiot culture such as TV Guide is worse than laughable. No, and he’s not going to be at a good, respectable, ethical company anymore, either. Which is why most serious people who care about and worry over serious journalism are lamenting (or worse) the ownership of a crown jewel of good journalism being in the hands of a deeply dishonorable person like Murdoch. The fact that you equate things at the WSJ to your prior experience at an enabler of the idiot culture such as TV Guide is worse than laughable.

]]> By: Wednesday links: carry trade canary « Abnormal Returns http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363256 Wednesday links: carry trade canary « Abnormal Returns Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:07:42 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/11/14/a-can-do-attitude/#comment-363256 [...] In any event, a “can-do attitude” will likely drive the WSJ.com decision. (BuzzMachine) [...] [...] In any event, a “can-do attitude” will likely drive the WSJ.com decision. (BuzzMachine) [...]

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