Comments on: Extreme storytelling http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:00:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Extreme storytelling - Somethin’ New http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-366748 Extreme storytelling - Somethin’ New Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:35:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-366748 [...] I haven’t decided yet what I think about the form. There’s no question that it is compelling, engrossing, informative, entertaining, beautiful. It’s an unqualified success. What I don’t know is how this translates — or should translate — into other stories. Newspaper online sites tend to use slideshows too much, just because the internet lets them. I have no doubt that Jonathan’s work will spread around that world and photo editors and online producers everywhere will trip over themselves to mimic it. But this was a special story, an extreme story; that’s one reason why Jonathan picked it. He says in his statement that he wanted an “epic personal experience” to translate onto the internet. He also wanted to mimic the cadence of computers gathering and displaying data, since he forces them to do that with his online work. “I was interested in reaching some degree of empathy with the computer, a constant thankless helper in my work,” he says, which may be going an inch too far, but I think what he means is that this will give him an even better understanding of how machines can help tell stories.What I’m trying to say, think about what new ways stories can be told now that we no longer are forced to choose one medium or another. But first, go watch the hunt.Jeff Jarvis on Buzzmachine [...] [...] I haven’t decided yet what I think about the form. There’s no question that it is compelling, engrossing, informative, entertaining, beautiful. It’s an unqualified success. What I don’t know is how this translates — or should translate — into other stories. Newspaper online sites tend to use slideshows too much, just because the internet lets them. I have no doubt that Jonathan’s work will spread around that world and photo editors and online producers everywhere will trip over themselves to mimic it. But this was a special story, an extreme story; that’s one reason why Jonathan picked it. He says in his statement that he wanted an “epic personal experience” to translate onto the internet. He also wanted to mimic the cadence of computers gathering and displaying data, since he forces them to do that with his online work. “I was interested in reaching some degree of empathy with the computer, a constant thankless helper in my work,” he says, which may be going an inch too far, but I think what he means is that this will give him an even better understanding of how machines can help tell stories.What I’m trying to say, think about what new ways stories can be told now that we no longer are forced to choose one medium or another. But first, go watch the hunt.Jeff Jarvis on Buzzmachine [...]

]]> By: The Journalism Iconoclast http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365497 The Journalism Iconoclast Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:32:07 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365497 [...] know, tell a story. Frankly, there is no story being told, just a 13 random pictures. Jeff Jarvis noted “newspaper online sites tend to use slideshows too much, just because the internet lets [...] [...] know, tell a story. Frankly, there is no story being told, just a 13 random pictures. Jeff Jarvis noted “newspaper online sites tend to use slideshows too much, just because the internet lets [...]

]]> By: Badger Gravling http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365490 Badger Gravling Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:40:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365490 I totally agree with Jeff that we need to stop thinking of presenting a 30 minute video as a complete package, and look at ways we can use video, images and text together in the best way for each story or idea. I'd hesitate over a tool which lets you comment all over a video, or insert your own version into the original, because I think it would end up a confusing mish-mash, overlaid with so many comments you couldn't see the original... But I think the basis of Youtube video responses etc will evolve into some way that the original, the mash-ups, and the responses can all be collected and shown in a way that makes them all equal, and open to their own responses. We're not far off it now. A simple webcam and a couple of minutes can create a response to a video...it's just at the moment there are few places to actually put it once it's done. I totally agree with Jeff that we need to stop thinking of presenting a 30 minute video as a complete package, and look at ways we can use video, images and text together in the best way for each story or idea.

I’d hesitate over a tool which lets you comment all over a video, or insert your own version into the original, because I think it would end up a confusing mish-mash, overlaid with so many comments you couldn’t see the original…

But I think the basis of Youtube video responses etc will evolve into some way that the original, the mash-ups, and the responses can all be collected and shown in a way that makes them all equal, and open to their own responses.

We’re not far off it now. A simple webcam and a couple of minutes can create a response to a video…it’s just at the moment there are few places to actually put it once it’s done.

]]> By: PSFK » Blog Archive Storytelling 2.0 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365485 PSFK » Blog Archive Storytelling 2.0 Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:08:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365485 [...] The Whale Hunt / A Storytelling Experiment / By Jonathan Harris [via BuzzMachine] [...] [...] The Whale Hunt / A Storytelling Experiment / By Jonathan Harris [via BuzzMachine] [...]

]]> By: David Cushman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365406 David Cushman Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:49:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365406 I wonder if video becomes more interesting in this context when the 'viewers' get to be participants, in the same way they can in a text stream (commenting) or even in the photostream (flickr could enable this I guess?) Video, as you point out, is too self-contained right now, at least in the way it is presented by centre-out sites. Imagine a tool which allows you to comment all over, insert your own take, mash in alternate versions of the same story, then share the result. It's all do-able, it just requires some lowering of technical barriers so everyone can do it, just as everyone (even me!) can add a comment to this. I wonder if video becomes more interesting in this context when the ‘viewers’ get to be participants, in the same way they can in a text stream (commenting) or even in the photostream (flickr could enable this I guess?)
Video, as you point out, is too self-contained right now, at least in the way it is presented by centre-out sites.
Imagine a tool which allows you to comment all over, insert your own take, mash in alternate versions of the same story, then share the result.

It’s all do-able, it just requires some lowering of technical barriers so everyone can do it, just as everyone (even me!) can add a comment to this.

]]> By: It’s about the story, not the medium « Thoughts on Media http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365405 It’s about the story, not the medium « Thoughts on Media Mon, 17 Dec 2007 10:03:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365405 [...] about the story, not the medium This post by Jeff Jarvis got me thinking about how to break through the barriers in a formerly single-medium [...] [...] about the story, not the medium This post by Jeff Jarvis got me thinking about how to break through the barriers in a formerly single-medium [...]

]]> By: links for 2007-12-17 at iJump.co.nz http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365393 links for 2007-12-17 at iJump.co.nz Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:24:52 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365393 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Extreme storytelling (tags: storytelling entertainment) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Extreme storytelling (tags: storytelling entertainment) [...]

]]> By: Journalism bloggers, remember who has the power | editor on the verge http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365392 Journalism bloggers, remember who has the power | editor on the verge Mon, 17 Dec 2007 03:24:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/16/extreme-storytelling/#comment-365392 [...] Howard Owens, Jeff Jarvis, Pat Thornton, and many, many other journalism/media bloggers have crafted posts about what [...] [...] Howard Owens, Jeff Jarvis, Pat Thornton, and many, many other journalism/media bloggers have crafted posts about what [...]

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