Comments on: Wishful thinking http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:13:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Kataweb.it - Blog - Giornalismo d’altri » Blog Archive » Giornalismo professionale: dove trovare i soldi quanto ‘tutti’ fanno i soldi in rete http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365858 Kataweb.it - Blog - Giornalismo d’altri » Blog Archive » Giornalismo professionale: dove trovare i soldi quanto ‘tutti’ fanno i soldi in rete Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:44:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365858 [...] adeguatamente avvertito dal mondo del giornalismo in genere e da quello italiano in particolare. Come va ripetendo Jeff Jarvis, “internet è un mercato altamente competitivo nel qualle prezzi e margini [...] [...] adeguatamente avvertito dal mondo del giornalismo in genere e da quello italiano in particolare. Come va ripetendo Jeff Jarvis, “internet è un mercato altamente competitivo nel qualle prezzi e margini [...]

]]> By: roger rainey http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365665 roger rainey Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:23:36 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365665 Can't wait to see what Jeff has to say about this. The lack of foresight and high-handed defensiveness would be extremely depressing to me if I were a student contemplating a career in journalism. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/opinion/22lemann.html?ex=1356066000&en=91281da561ae3cbf&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink Can’t wait to see what Jeff has to say about this. The lack of foresight and high-handed defensiveness would be extremely depressing to me if I were a student contemplating a career in journalism.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/22/opinion/22lemann.html?ex=1356066000&en=91281da561ae3cbf&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

]]> By: Blendwire http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365628 Blendwire Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:35:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365628 What an interesting notion--to transform local news into a sort of web 2.0 landscape of mixed media... Journalists with inexpensive cameras shooting their own stories, mixing print with online and television media. What would happen if the Youtube model was brought into the newsroom? Obviously, from the success of such sites as Youtube, the quality of production is hardly the most important aspect of news and entertainment to the masses, at least on the internet. And local news often already suffers from poor production, anyways. Perhaps embracing this mentality, and coupling it with a free, blog-like approach to gathering and distributing news could be just the thing to revitalize local (and perhaps even national) media. Excellent post. What an interesting notion–to transform local news into a sort of web 2.0 landscape of mixed media… Journalists with inexpensive cameras shooting their own stories, mixing print with online and television media. What would happen if the Youtube model was brought into the newsroom?

Obviously, from the success of such sites as Youtube, the quality of production is hardly the most important aspect of news and entertainment to the masses, at least on the internet. And local news often already suffers from poor production, anyways. Perhaps embracing this mentality, and coupling it with a free, blog-like approach to gathering and distributing news could be just the thing to revitalize local (and perhaps even national) media.

Excellent post.

]]> By: knackeredhack http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365537 knackeredhack Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:04:55 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365537 Jeff, the problem for these organizations, where - among other things - technology is not their core expertise, is the relative lack of diverse perspectives among current staff. I suspect it could be characterised by what you might call the top dog syndrome. They need people with experience of being underdogs, not those who are used to others cooing when they walk in the room. Finding and managing genuine underdogs is a particular skill though. They see the world from a different point of view. Tim Jeff, the problem for these organizations, where - among other things - technology is not their core expertise, is the relative lack of diverse perspectives among current staff. I suspect it could be characterised by what you might call the top dog syndrome. They need people with experience of being underdogs, not those who are used to others cooing when they walk in the room. Finding and managing genuine underdogs is a particular skill though. They see the world from a different point of view.

Tim

]]> By: Shafqat http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365506 Shafqat Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:15:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365506 Allow me to rephrase: 'the strategic challenge for newspapers is producing high quality, credible content that will attract the most discerning news readers despite the plethora of alternative sources available to them. Readers will flock to the best content, so if newspapers can provide it, the advertising dollars will follow naturally.' Don't chase the money. Chase quality. Allow me to rephrase: ‘the strategic challenge for newspapers is producing high quality, credible content that will attract the most discerning news readers despite the plethora of alternative sources available to them. Readers will flock to the best content, so if newspapers can provide it, the advertising dollars will follow naturally.’

Don’t chase the money. Chase quality.

]]> By: Roger http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365502 Roger Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:18:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365502 Jeff, that is an apt mixed metaphor - shooting red herring in a barrel. And I can understand your initial reaction of selling short the NYT Co. - any rational observer would be led to such a conclusion after reading one too many of their editorial board's rude and simpleminded editorials. You were right to retract it, as the NYT is an asset that everyone should hope fixes itself and I think your relationship with Keller is worth saving. However, it does not bode well for his stewardship that he keeps those boatload of idiots writing editorials. Jeff, that is an apt mixed metaphor - shooting red herring in a barrel. And I can understand your initial reaction of selling short the NYT Co. - any rational observer would be led to such a conclusion after reading one too many of their editorial board’s rude and simpleminded editorials. You were right to retract it, as the NYT is an asset that everyone should hope fixes itself and I think your relationship with Keller is worth saving. However, it does not bode well for his stewardship that he keeps those boatload of idiots writing editorials.

]]> By: Nigel Eccles http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365500 Nigel Eccles Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:34:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365500 'The strategic challenge for newspapers is not cutting costs, but how to attract a larger share of online advertising and make money off the millions of people who read them free online.' The bizarre thing about that statement is that in fact neither of those two things are strategic challenges. The strategic challenge is new competition coming from new news and advertising platforms. It is also strange that they seem to think that cutting costs and monetising online readers are the only options, and also some how that they are mutually exclusive. I would really doubt if this editorial is a true reflection of their corporate strategy (or am I just hoping?) ‘The strategic challenge for newspapers is not cutting costs, but how to attract a larger share of online advertising and make money off the millions of people who read them free online.’

The bizarre thing about that statement is that in fact neither of those two things are strategic challenges. The strategic challenge is new competition coming from new news and advertising platforms. It is also strange that they seem to think that cutting costs and monetising online readers are the only options, and also some how that they are mutually exclusive.

I would really doubt if this editorial is a true reflection of their corporate strategy (or am I just hoping?)

]]> By: Steve Boriss http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365499 Steve Boriss Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:46:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365499 Jeff, The FCC should be phased-out and abolished, and its "regulatees" liberated. Technologically, the FCC is obsolete. Politically, it has always been a disaster, and continues to chill free speech. The center-left/pro-establishment side is represented in broadcast. The far-left, center, center-right, and far-right are not. If the Times wants diversity, that's the place to start. Thomas Jefferson envisioned a multitude of voices competing in a freewheeling marketplace of ideas, not a controlling, obsessive-compulsive Gray Lady imploring us to be seen but not heard. (Steve Boriss, <a href="http://www.thefutureofnews.com" rel="nofollow">The Future of News</a>) Jeff, The FCC should be phased-out and abolished, and its “regulatees” liberated. Technologically, the FCC is obsolete. Politically, it has always been a disaster, and continues to chill free speech. The center-left/pro-establishment side is represented in broadcast. The far-left, center, center-right, and far-right are not. If the Times wants diversity, that’s the place to start. Thomas Jefferson envisioned a multitude of voices competing in a freewheeling marketplace of ideas, not a controlling, obsessive-compulsive Gray Lady imploring us to be seen but not heard. (Steve Boriss, The Future of News)

]]> By: Cooler Heads http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365489 Cooler Heads Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:38:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2007/12/18/wishful-thinking/#comment-365489 Mostly I agree, except for one point: out here in heartland, local newspapers, TV, and radio actually do local reporting. Sure, the local TV news is the not the NYTimes of broadcast. But several local stations have done some fine reportage. You live in NJ where there truly is no local broadcast news. It's an unusual place, so you can't use it, or the NYC region, as some kind of proxy for the rest of the US. Mostly I agree, except for one point: out here in heartland, local newspapers, TV, and radio actually do local reporting. Sure, the local TV news is the not the NYTimes of broadcast. But several local stations have done some fine reportage.

You live in NJ where there truly is no local broadcast news. It’s an unusual place, so you can’t use it, or the NYC region, as some kind of proxy for the rest of the US.

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