Comments on: New Hampshire tears http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:02:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: chico haas http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366727 chico haas Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:24:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366727 Sarah: 1) You are correct about no tears. Teary-eyed is more accurate. You are correct about passion being Presidential. However, self-pity, which is what I took from the clip, isn't. 2) I know you don't really mean "tears." The idea of "inherent sexism" gives one great latitude in dismissing criticism. Lots of ill-advised behavior unhinges Presidential campaigns. Dukakis' head out of the tank, Dean's Yarrrrgh. 3) Likely correct. 4) I'm not laying a bet you'd ever vote for Huckabee. Sarah:

1) You are correct about no tears. Teary-eyed is more accurate. You are correct about passion being Presidential. However, self-pity, which is what I took from the clip, isn’t.

2) I know you don’t really mean “tears.” The idea of “inherent sexism” gives one great latitude in dismissing criticism. Lots of ill-advised behavior unhinges Presidential campaigns. Dukakis’ head out of the tank, Dean’s Yarrrrgh.

3) Likely correct.

4) I’m not laying a bet you’d ever vote for Huckabee.

]]> By: Sarah http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366612 Sarah Wed, 09 Jan 2008 20:32:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366612 1) Has anyone watched the clip? She didn't cry. There were no tears. Her throat got a little tight because she was exhausted as heck and talking about something that meant a lot to her. Passion isn't presidential? 2) Anyone making the argument that her tears hurt or helped her is just buying into Chris Matthews' and everyone's inherent sexism towards Hillary's entire campaign. Did anyone see the montage on the Daily Show of the all the male politicians getting weepy without anyone making a federal case out of it? My head will explode if one more person talks about this like it matters. 3) I argue that NH voters don't like to be caught up the media coronation of a candidate. I think the undecideds broke for Hillary because the media was all but measuring the drapes in the presidential bedroom for Obama and we were all like "Hey now, not so fast." It's happened before (Mccain in 2000, Buchanan in 92/96). 4) I am a female Independent voter who decided yesterday morning to vote for Hillary and it had zero to do with her mythical "tears"...if I were going to vote based on that I'd have voted for Huckabee, since Chuck Norris' tears cure cancer (too bad he never cries). 1) Has anyone watched the clip? She didn’t cry. There were no tears. Her throat got a little tight because she was exhausted as heck and talking about something that meant a lot to her. Passion isn’t presidential?

2) Anyone making the argument that her tears hurt or helped her is just buying into Chris Matthews’ and everyone’s inherent sexism towards Hillary’s entire campaign. Did anyone see the montage on the Daily Show of the all the male politicians getting weepy without anyone making a federal case out of it? My head will explode if one more person talks about this like it matters.

3) I argue that NH voters don’t like to be caught up the media coronation of a candidate. I think the undecideds broke for Hillary because the media was all but measuring the drapes in the presidential bedroom for Obama and we were all like “Hey now, not so fast.” It’s happened before (Mccain in 2000, Buchanan in 92/96).

4) I am a female Independent voter who decided yesterday morning to vote for Hillary and it had zero to do with her mythical “tears”…if I were going to vote based on that I’d have voted for Huckabee, since Chuck Norris’ tears cure cancer (too bad he never cries).

]]> By: John C Abell http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366607 John C Abell Wed, 09 Jan 2008 18:37:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366607 Umm, in the teary moments race it's Romney 3, Clinton, 1. http://tinyurl.com/25jklx (boston.com) Umm, in the teary moments race it’s Romney 3, Clinton, 1.

http://tinyurl.com/25jklx (boston.com)

]]> By: chico haas http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366600 chico haas Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:54:06 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366600 Harry's right. In that context, it's not Presidential. NH notwithstanding, it's the single most damaging thing she's done. Other than not muzzling Bill from making extemporaneous remarks like: "I can't make her younger..." Harry’s right. In that context, it’s not Presidential. NH notwithstanding, it’s the single most damaging thing she’s done. Other than not muzzling Bill from making extemporaneous remarks like: “I can’t make her younger…”

]]> By: Harry http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366596 Harry Wed, 09 Jan 2008 16:04:01 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366596 You're human if you cry for someone else, like a crippled child, a wounded war vet, or an AIDS patient. Crying in those circumstances shows you care about someone other than yourself. If, like Hillary, you cry out of self-pity----especially you're only experiencing some minor bumps in the road of an otherwise very comfortable life----you're just showing yourself to be weak and vain. You’re human if you cry for someone else, like a crippled child, a wounded war vet, or an AIDS patient. Crying in those circumstances shows you care about someone other than yourself.

If, like Hillary, you cry out of self-pity—-especially you’re only experiencing some minor bumps in the road of an otherwise very comfortable life—-you’re just showing yourself to be weak and vain.

]]> By: tom http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366593 tom Wed, 09 Jan 2008 15:45:25 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366593 Jeff I think you were right when you said that the internet was a key factor in Obama's success. But you were also right when you pointed out the meaninglessness of his "change" mantra. That is why he stumbled in New Hampshire. The internet may be wide, but it's not shallow. Jeff I think you were right when you said that the internet was a key factor in Obama’s success. But you were also right when you pointed out the meaninglessness of his “change” mantra. That is why he stumbled in New Hampshire. The internet may be wide, but it’s not shallow.

]]> By: Colin Kerr http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366584 Colin Kerr Wed, 09 Jan 2008 11:35:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366584 Could be that John McCain is the biggest winner from New Hampshire. Made a great speech after his victory and is playing the age and maturity card very cleverly. But why did the pollsters get the Democratic result so wrong? Could be that John McCain is the biggest winner from New Hampshire. Made a great speech after his victory and is playing the age and maturity card very cleverly.

But why did the pollsters get the Democratic result so wrong?

]]> By: Harold http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366562 Harold Wed, 09 Jan 2008 07:17:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/08/new-hampshire-tears/#comment-366562 Who was the person who asked her the question that made her tear up? Who was the person who asked her the question that made her tear up?

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