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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Just do it &#171; Experimentos CAA Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-369934</link>
		<dc:creator>Just do it &#171; Experimentos CAA Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/</a>Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed Nanabhay&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-01-24</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367517</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohamed Nanabhay&#8217;s Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-01-24</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 23:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Guardian Offsite New Media Session But GMG digital czar Simon Waldman accomplished the primary goal â€” demystifying all this web 2.0 stuff and making it obviously easy. Like our JazCamp idea&#8230; (tags: training journalism) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Guardian Offsite New Media Session But GMG digital czar Simon Waldman accomplished the primary goal â€” demystifying all this web 2.0 stuff and making it obviously easy. Like our JazCamp idea&#8230; (tags: training journalism) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian gives staff online journalism test &#124; The Wire &#124; Press Gazette</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367305</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian gives staff online journalism test &#124; The Wire &#124; Press Gazette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis has revealed how Guardian Media Group gave some of its journalists a test on online reporting tools last [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jarvis has revealed how Guardian Media Group gave some of its journalists a test on online reporting tools last [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Owens</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367292</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Owens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As always, thanks for the link, Jeff.

Ryan Sholin, Zac Echola and myself have started a new site (based on Ning) to provide help to journalists looking to improve their wired literacy.

It's called: wiredjournalists.com.

The idea for the site grew out of the objectives post.

H.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As always, thanks for the link, Jeff.</p>
<p>Ryan Sholin, Zac Echola and myself have started a new site (based on Ning) to provide help to journalists looking to improve their wired literacy.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s called: wiredjournalists.com.</p>
<p>The idea for the site grew out of the objectives post.</p>
<p>H.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-01-21 &#171; David Black</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367287</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-01-21 &#171; David Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 02:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Just do it - BuzzMachine &#8220;At the Guardian Media Groupâ€™s online offsite yesterday, I watched a live demonstration of the benefits of following Howard Owensâ€™ dictum for nonwired journalists.&#8221; (tags: internet newspapers newsrooms journalism training web2.0) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Just do it - BuzzMachine &#8220;At the Guardian Media Groupâ€™s online offsite yesterday, I watched a live demonstration of the benefits of following Howard Owensâ€™ dictum for nonwired journalists.&#8221; (tags: internet newspapers newsrooms journalism training web2.0) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: I also know people like this&#8230; &#171; all over the map</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367262</link>
		<dc:creator>I also know people like this&#8230; &#171; all over the map</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at 8:11 pm &#183; Filed under computers and tagged: computers are intimidating   GawkerÂ linking to BuzzMachineÂ &#8211; I know all sorts of people like this who are, as Jeff Jarvis describes them, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at 8:11 pm &#183; Filed under computers and tagged: computers are intimidating   GawkerÂ linking to BuzzMachineÂ &#8211; I know all sorts of people like this who are, as Jeff Jarvis describes them, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy McAdams</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367242</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hands-on is always so much more effective than a mere lecture and demonstration. I'm baffled at how many newsrooms want me to come in and give a lecture and demo instead of what I could do, which is really teach them how to produce this stuff! 

But I know why they prefer hands-off: They do not have training rooms; they do not have a stock of laptops to provide to the participants in the workshop; the reporters and others do not have their own laptops (as incredible as that is). 

Is this a case of "for want of a nail, the battle was lost"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hands-on is always so much more effective than a mere lecture and demonstration. I&#8217;m baffled at how many newsrooms want me to come in and give a lecture and demo instead of what I could do, which is really teach them how to produce this stuff! </p>
<p>But I know why they prefer hands-off: They do not have training rooms; they do not have a stock of laptops to provide to the participants in the workshop; the reporters and others do not have their own laptops (as incredible as that is). </p>
<p>Is this a case of &#8220;for want of a nail, the battle was lost&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367217</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irony? Hmmm, I just see a typo you helped me fix. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irony? Hmmm, I just see a typo you helped me fix. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendell Dryden</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367208</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendell Dryden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At first, I thought, "Wow - what a great training idea for my field!" (basic adult literacy and education).

But then I wondered about the suitability of some of the tasks.  Joining most social network sites, for example, involves sharing / posting at least some personal information on somebody else's servers.  That may be an inappropriate ask for an employer mandated training session.

I guess people could create fake identities to use during training, and then re-register with any tools or services they wanted to continue to use.

Still, it may be worth noting that, say, learning to "use" Facebook may expose learners in a way that learning to use a desktop tool (Word, Paint, etc.) does not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At first, I thought, &#8220;Wow - what a great training idea for my field!&#8221; (basic adult literacy and education).</p>
<p>But then I wondered about the suitability of some of the tasks.  Joining most social network sites, for example, involves sharing / posting at least some personal information on somebody else&#8217;s servers.  That may be an inappropriate ask for an employer mandated training session.</p>
<p>I guess people could create fake identities to use during training, and then re-register with any tools or services they wanted to continue to use.</p>
<p>Still, it may be worth noting that, say, learning to &#8220;use&#8221; Facebook may expose learners in a way that learning to use a desktop tool (Word, Paint, etc.) does not.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Balfour</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367203</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Balfour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"thatâ€™s why they were their"

I find such glaring typos ironic when you criticize others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;thatâ€™s why they were their&#8221;</p>
<p>I find such glaring typos ironic when you criticize others.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Echola</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367202</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Echola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 22:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a training perspective, doing this stuff is incredibly easy. Even those with very little technology skills can handle doing the things on this list. A days training (or less) is all it takes. 

The key, though, is to show them how this all relates to their daily routines. Ask the reporters what time wasters, hurdles and annoyances they've run into and show them how these technologies can solve (or help solve) their problems.

I'm sold on Howard's plan not because I think these technologies are necessary for the future survival of newspapers (at least not on the reporter level), but because knowing--even just a little--about various Web services and how they interact adds to a reporters vocabulary when trying to simplify a complex issue. This type of training becomes immediately useful if retained and applied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a training perspective, doing this stuff is incredibly easy. Even those with very little technology skills can handle doing the things on this list. A days training (or less) is all it takes. </p>
<p>The key, though, is to show them how this all relates to their daily routines. Ask the reporters what time wasters, hurdles and annoyances they&#8217;ve run into and show them how these technologies can solve (or help solve) their problems.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sold on Howard&#8217;s plan not because I think these technologies are necessary for the future survival of newspapers (at least not on the reporter level), but because knowing&#8211;even just a little&#8211;about various Web services and how they interact adds to a reporters vocabulary when trying to simplify a complex issue. This type of training becomes immediately useful if retained and applied.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaap Stronks</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/19/just-do-it/#comment-367191</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaap Stronks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote a similar article, posing 7 challenges to journalists (giving due credit to Howard Owens), in Dutch, on the &lt;a href="http://www.denieuwereporter.nl/?p=1409" rel="nofollow"&gt;Nieuwe Reporter&lt;/a&gt;. Google translates it to &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denieuwereporter.nl%2F%3Fp%3D1409&#38;langpair=nl%7Cen&#38;hl=en&#38;ie=UTF8" rel="nofollow"&gt;this &lt;/a&gt;(with many (sometimes hilarious) errors, but readable) in English. 
The few journalists who responded in the comments below, though, stated all those web nonsense is a waste of time and does not add anything to journalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote a similar article, posing 7 challenges to journalists (giving due credit to Howard Owens), in Dutch, on the <a href="http://www.denieuwereporter.nl/?p=1409" rel="nofollow">Nieuwe Reporter</a>. Google translates it to <a href="http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.denieuwereporter.nl%2F%3Fp%3D1409&amp;langpair=nl%7Cen&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8" rel="nofollow">this </a>(with many (sometimes hilarious) errors, but readable) in English.<br />
The few journalists who responded in the comments below, though, stated all those web nonsense is a waste of time and does not add anything to journalism.</p>
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