Comments on: DLD: Wales v. Calacanis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:45:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: .::.Crea tus Blogs.::. » Blog Archive » “Lo quieren los clientes”: Nielsen se propone medir la audiencia online de los shows de televisión http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-375436 .::.Crea tus Blogs.::. » Blog Archive » “Lo quieren los clientes”: Nielsen se propone medir la audiencia online de los shows de televisión Thu, 22 May 2008 04:43:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-375436 [...] merece otro libro que él no va a escribir al escuchar palabras de otro megamogul de la red, Jason Calacanis. La frase bien vale una misa por lo que podría tener de certero: the fat tail will be human, the [...] [...] merece otro libro que él no va a escribir al escuchar palabras de otro megamogul de la red, Jason Calacanis. La frase bien vale una misa por lo que podría tener de certero: the fat tail will be human, the [...]

]]> By: Wikia Search, Mahalo and Google « PlayerSearch Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-371609 Wikia Search, Mahalo and Google « PlayerSearch Blog Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:23:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-371609 [...] (Wikia and Mahalo) vs. Algorithmic search (Google). Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine was live blogging here and the Long Tail blog covered it [...] [...] (Wikia and Mahalo) vs. Algorithmic search (Google). Jeff Jarvis of Buzz Machine was live blogging here and the Long Tail blog covered it [...]

]]> By: rob zand » Blog Archive » quickly connecting two ideas http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-370826 rob zand » Blog Archive » quickly connecting two ideas Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:35:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-370826 [...] Jimmy Wales (Wikia) and Jason Calacanis (Mahalo), with Marissa Meyer (Google) discussing human-driven search (Mahalo and Wikia) vs. algorithmic search (Google). “Esther Dyson says the problem with their model is the long tail. If she were starting a company she’d do something else. “Ok, I’m going to kill myself now,” laughed [Calacanis] He says that the fat tail will be human, the medium tail social, the long tail algorithmic. And he says that the ... [...] [...] Jimmy Wales (Wikia) and Jason Calacanis (Mahalo), with Marissa Meyer (Google) discussing human-driven search (Mahalo and Wikia) vs. algorithmic search (Google). “Esther Dyson says the problem with their model is the long tail. If she were starting a company she’d do something else. “Ok, I’m going to kill myself now,” laughed [Calacanis] He says that the fat tail will be human, the medium tail social, the long tail algorithmic. And he says that the … [...]

]]> By: Searching for video online « Gordon Mattey’s Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-369514 Searching for video online « Gordon Mattey’s Blog Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:20:02 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-369514 [...] for video online Interesting discussion out of a panel at the Digital, Life, Design conference from Munich a month ago. Mahalo, Wikia, [...] [...] for video online Interesting discussion out of a panel at the Digital, Life, Design conference from Munich a month ago. Mahalo, Wikia, [...]

]]> By: Rainer Blome http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367475 Rainer Blome Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:51:34 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367475 > Jason says he doesn’t think Jimmy will be unsuccessful Is this correct? Shouldn't this be "doesn't think Jimmy will be successful"? An important difference in this case. And what would success mean, slowing the train, or being run over by it (:-)? > Jason says he doesn’t think Jimmy will be unsuccessful

Is this correct? Shouldn’t this be “doesn’t think Jimmy will be successful”? An important difference in this case. And what would success mean, slowing the train, or being run over by it (:-)?

]]> By: The short head is human, middle fat is social and long tail is algorithmic « MPL’s Blog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367436 The short head is human, middle fat is social and long tail is algorithmic « MPL’s Blog Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:41:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367436 [...] It is an interesting way to think about it.  Of course, it is all ad-supported and it does make a good case for Mahalo. [...] [...] It is an interesting way to think about it.  Of course, it is all ad-supported and it does make a good case for Mahalo. [...]

]]> By: Edelman: Wikipedia vertrauenswürdiger als klassische Medien at viralmythen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367433 Edelman: Wikipedia vertrauenswürdiger als klassische Medien at viralmythen Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:08:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367433 [...] Jeff Jarvis, der die ganze Diskussion gewissenhaft mitgeschrieben hat, [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis, der die ganze Diskussion gewissenhaft mitgeschrieben hat, [...]

]]> By: Edelman: Wikipedia vertrauenswürdiger als klassische Medien at viralmythen http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367434 Edelman: Wikipedia vertrauenswürdiger als klassische Medien at viralmythen Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:08:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367434 [...] Jeff Jarvis, der die ganze Diskussion gewissenhaft mitgeschrieben hat, [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis, der die ganze Diskussion gewissenhaft mitgeschrieben hat, [...]

]]> By: ShinyRed » Blog Archive » Digital, Life, Design - a smörgÃ¥sbord of soundbites http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367379 ShinyRed » Blog Archive » Digital, Life, Design - a smörgÃ¥sbord of soundbites Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:06:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367379 [...] Jason Calcanis squares off against Jimmy Wales in a discussion around human vs. algorithmic search. Jeff Jarvis’ post picks out a juicy Calcanis quote: [...] [...] Jason Calcanis squares off against Jimmy Wales in a discussion around human vs. algorithmic search. Jeff Jarvis’ post picks out a juicy Calcanis quote: [...]

]]> By: MediaBlog » “The fat tail will be human, the medium tail social, the long tail algorithmic” http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367367 MediaBlog » “The fat tail will be human, the medium tail social, the long tail algorithmic” Tue, 22 Jan 2008 06:25:31 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367367 [...] de post van Anderson grijpt weer terug op een verslag van blogger Jeff Jarvis] Stem of voeg toe aan [...] [...] de post van Anderson grijpt weer terug op een verslag van blogger Jeff Jarvis] Stem of voeg toe aan [...]

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367360 David Tue, 22 Jan 2008 02:51:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367360 Awesome break-down of the panel. Thanks Jeff. Awesome break-down of the panel. Thanks Jeff.

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367349 David Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:24:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367349 @Matt - I think he means "head," not fat tail, which doesn't really make sense unless he's referring to the larger part of the tail in a typical Pareto or Zipf distribution curve. @Matt - I think he means “head,” not fat tail, which doesn’t really make sense unless he’s referring to the larger part of the tail in a typical Pareto or Zipf distribution curve.

]]> By: SoniaC http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367347 SoniaC Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:10:14 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367347 Nice coverage...Hybrids appear to be a safe passage in light of the dissatisfaction. Sorry - don't have the actual stat but have heard it more than once. Local search in particular suffers from poor experience which is a key driver to directories rushing to get "human" generated content in the form of reviews. Nice coverage…Hybrids appear to be a safe passage in light of the dissatisfaction. Sorry - don’t have the actual stat but have heard it more than once. Local search in particular suffers from poor experience which is a key driver to directories rushing to get “human” generated content in the form of reviews.

]]> By: matt schulte http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367336 matt schulte Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:38:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367336 what's a short sweet definition of the "fat tail" in the context of this discussion? what’s a short sweet definition of the “fat tail” in the context of this discussion?

]]> By: Gerald Buckley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367332 Gerald Buckley Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:13:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367332 I'm sure the same stats Jason is offering apply to lots of things (Windows OS comes to mind). LOTS of people are ok with "good enough" even if they say it ain't so in a survey. So much so that huge brands are made on "good enough". What matters is how consumers actually behave and consume. Not so much how they answer a survey. I’m sure the same stats Jason is offering apply to lots of things (Windows OS comes to mind). LOTS of people are ok with “good enough” even if they say it ain’t so in a survey. So much so that huge brands are made on “good enough”.

What matters is how consumers actually behave and consume. Not so much how they answer a survey.

]]> By: robertdfeinman http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367323 robertdfeinman Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:08:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367323 Information retrieval is complex. The big three do a fairly good job on the straightforward types of searches that are most common, that is: people, products and events. If they didn't people wouldn't be using their services and they wouldn't be attracting advertisers. Specialized searches (say for scholarly research) are not going to be moneymakers and this could be a useful area for an open source or non-profit entity to tackle. One size does not fit all. Information retrieval is complex. The big three do a fairly good job on the straightforward types of searches that are most common, that is: people, products and events. If they didn’t people wouldn’t be using their services and they wouldn’t be attracting advertisers.

Specialized searches (say for scholarly research) are not going to be moneymakers and this could be a useful area for an open source or non-profit entity to tackle. One size does not fit all.

]]> By: paul http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367322 paul Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:01:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/01/21/dld-wales-v-calacanis/#comment-367322 Mahalo is just SEO. Mahalo is just SEO.

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