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	<title>Comments on: We&#8217;re hiring a manager, not a spiritual adviser</title>
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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: and now, the backlash &#171; the stories of our lives</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-377519</link>
		<dc:creator>and now, the backlash &#171; the stories of our lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis, who has also been on the case, adds a few logs to the fire [...]</description>
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		<title>By: and now, the backlash &#171; the infotainment follies</title>
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		<dc:creator>and now, the backlash &#171; the infotainment follies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 15:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis, who has also been on the case, adds a few logs to the fire [...]</description>
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		<title>By: and now, the backlash &#8212; infotainment rules</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-370144</link>
		<dc:creator>and now, the backlash &#8212; infotainment rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jarvis, who has also been on the case, adds a few logs to the fire [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Finally covering Obamedia</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-370104</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Finally covering Obamedia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] said it before: I think this is a failure of media. It is also a failure of media criticism. Media [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Clinton Turns to Sarcasm &#124; Election Geek Blog 2008 Election News 24/7</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clinton Turns to Sarcasm &#124; Election Geek Blog 2008 Election News 24/7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama&#8217;s stock phrases like we are the change that we seek sound are sounding more like marketing buzzwords of a spiritual advisor than the substantive arguments of a grounded [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ChrisC</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368854</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just a college student when Reagan was elected and new to the idea of being part of the Democratic process, but I do have a distinct recollection that ALL of the people I knew aside from my mother and grandfather were for Jimmy Carter because he was straight forward and spoke about issues, whereby Ronald Regan wowed the public with his charismatic Hollywood persona. Reagan won by a landslide, even though he didn't have anything substantial to say. Was the teflon man really as great a President as great as the historians have made him out to be? I was in the hospital the week he died, which was also the week Ray Charles died. We watched his airplane on the tarmac for hours and never heard one thing about Ray Charles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just a college student when Reagan was elected and new to the idea of being part of the Democratic process, but I do have a distinct recollection that ALL of the people I knew aside from my mother and grandfather were for Jimmy Carter because he was straight forward and spoke about issues, whereby Ronald Regan wowed the public with his charismatic Hollywood persona. Reagan won by a landslide, even though he didn&#8217;t have anything substantial to say. Was the teflon man really as great a President as great as the historians have made him out to be? I was in the hospital the week he died, which was also the week Ray Charles died. We watched his airplane on the tarmac for hours and never heard one thing about Ray Charles.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tyndall</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368628</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Tyndall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 00:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fineman --

Point taken on the Dixiecrats concerning the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. I am not so sure your argument applies to the rest of the Great Society.

Anywayâ€¦

â€¦during Campaign 2006, I found the best resources for keeping up on trends in the Senate races included Roll Call and Pollster.com, who do not appear to have geared up for Campaign 2008 yet. &lt;a href="http://nationaljournal.com/racerankings/senate/" rel="nofollow"&gt;National Journal&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/2007/11/2008-senate-ratings.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Rothenberg&lt;/a&gt; have started. They both agree that the most vulnerable seats are all Republican, apart from Louisiana. Between them, they recommend that the Republican incumbent states to watch, in descending order of vulnerability are:

Virginia
New Hampshire
New Mexico
Colorado
Minnesota
Maine
Oregon
Nebraska
Alaska
Kentucky
North Carolina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fineman &#8211;</p>
<p>Point taken on the Dixiecrats concerning the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. I am not so sure your argument applies to the rest of the Great Society.</p>
<p>Anywayâ€¦</p>
<p>â€¦during Campaign 2006, I found the best resources for keeping up on trends in the Senate races included Roll Call and Pollster.com, who do not appear to have geared up for Campaign 2008 yet. <a href="http://nationaljournal.com/racerankings/senate/" rel="nofollow">National Journal</a> and <a href="http://rothenbergpoliticalreport.blogspot.com/2007/11/2008-senate-ratings.html" rel="nofollow">Rothenberg</a> have started. They both agree that the most vulnerable seats are all Republican, apart from Louisiana. Between them, they recommend that the Republican incumbent states to watch, in descending order of vulnerability are:</p>
<p>Virginia<br />
New Hampshire<br />
New Mexico<br />
Colorado<br />
Minnesota<br />
Maine<br />
Oregon<br />
Nebraska<br />
Alaska<br />
Kentucky<br />
North Carolina</p>
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		<title>By: robertdfeinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>robertdfeinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew:
Perhaps a bit of a refresher course on the power of the Dixiecrats might be in order. The Dems in LBJ's day were a unified party in name only.

The proof is that most of the former Dixiecrats (or their children) are now in the GOP.

As for Obama's bipartisan appeal, I understand his campaign strategy, I'm concerned with what happens if he is elected. I'm assuming that the balance in the senate won't be much different than it is at present (+2 or 3 seats for Dem). If you have any evidence that this isn't true, I'd like a citation.

Fifty four fractious Dems don't make for a legislative battering ram. Thus my question about Plan B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:<br />
Perhaps a bit of a refresher course on the power of the Dixiecrats might be in order. The Dems in LBJ&#8217;s day were a unified party in name only.</p>
<p>The proof is that most of the former Dixiecrats (or their children) are now in the GOP.</p>
<p>As for Obama&#8217;s bipartisan appeal, I understand his campaign strategy, I&#8217;m concerned with what happens if he is elected. I&#8217;m assuming that the balance in the senate won&#8217;t be much different than it is at present (+2 or 3 seats for Dem). If you have any evidence that this isn&#8217;t true, I&#8217;d like a citation.</p>
<p>Fifty four fractious Dems don&#8217;t make for a legislative battering ram. Thus my question about Plan B.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tyndall</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368602</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Tyndall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feinman --

"The person who got the most accomplished in the face of strong opposition in the past 50 years was LBJ."

Strong opposition? I do not think so. LBJ's achievements came after his 1964 landslide victory over Barry Goldwater so they were in the face of &lt;i&gt;weak&lt;/i&gt; opposition.

When Obama campaigns on the basis of cross-party cooperation, he is referring to his ability to attract Republican and independent support at the ballot box -- not in the legislature. His plan, as I understand it, is that he, not Rodham Clinton, can offer the coattails required to elect an LBJ-sized supermajority.

His argument, it seems, is if Democrats want to replicate the hyperpartisan, demonizing Bush-Rove strategy of 50%-plus-one then Rodham Clinton is their woman. If they want to supersede the blue-red divide then he is best equipped to build a new larger coalition.

Who knows if his argument is correct? They hold elections to find out, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinman &#8211;</p>
<p>&#8220;The person who got the most accomplished in the face of strong opposition in the past 50 years was LBJ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Strong opposition? I do not think so. LBJ&#8217;s achievements came after his 1964 landslide victory over Barry Goldwater so they were in the face of <i>weak</i> opposition.</p>
<p>When Obama campaigns on the basis of cross-party cooperation, he is referring to his ability to attract Republican and independent support at the ballot box &#8212; not in the legislature. His plan, as I understand it, is that he, not Rodham Clinton, can offer the coattails required to elect an LBJ-sized supermajority.</p>
<p>His argument, it seems, is if Democrats want to replicate the hyperpartisan, demonizing Bush-Rove strategy of 50%-plus-one then Rodham Clinton is their woman. If they want to supersede the blue-red divide then he is best equipped to build a new larger coalition.</p>
<p>Who knows if his argument is correct? They hold elections to find out, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: robertdfeinman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368596</link>
		<dc:creator>robertdfeinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cooler Heads:
I can take your snide remark one of two ways. Either you think that Clinton will be less effective than Obama in getting cross party cooperation or you think that Hillary will give in to the Republicans the way Bill did.

But, that wasn't my point, I'm not criticizing Obama for being optimistic, I just want to know what plan B is if plan A fails.

The person who got the most accomplished in the face of strong opposition in the past 50 years was LBJ. We still don't know all the things he did to force congressmen to support civil rights and great society programs. Intimidation? Blackmail using files from the FBI? Bribes for local projects? 

There are just some times in politics that compromise is not possible and those who think they can reason with the unyielding are being unrealistic. As I said above, 140 filibusters in the past years doesn't support a hope that bipartisanship will be forthcoming spontaneously after the election.

So, what's plan B?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cooler Heads:<br />
I can take your snide remark one of two ways. Either you think that Clinton will be less effective than Obama in getting cross party cooperation or you think that Hillary will give in to the Republicans the way Bill did.</p>
<p>But, that wasn&#8217;t my point, I&#8217;m not criticizing Obama for being optimistic, I just want to know what plan B is if plan A fails.</p>
<p>The person who got the most accomplished in the face of strong opposition in the past 50 years was LBJ. We still don&#8217;t know all the things he did to force congressmen to support civil rights and great society programs. Intimidation? Blackmail using files from the FBI? Bribes for local projects? </p>
<p>There are just some times in politics that compromise is not possible and those who think they can reason with the unyielding are being unrealistic. As I said above, 140 filibusters in the past years doesn&#8217;t support a hope that bipartisanship will be forthcoming spontaneously after the election.</p>
<p>So, what&#8217;s plan B?</p>
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		<title>By: Cooler Heads</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368568</link>
		<dc:creator>Cooler Heads</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robertfeinman, imagine how well bipartianship will work when the Clintons are back in the White House? The Clintons of the Right-wing conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robertfeinman, imagine how well bipartianship will work when the Clintons are back in the White House? The Clintons of the Right-wing conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Lollie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, Hillary supporters are bound and determined to put McCain in the white house.   The only way to get the republicans off their asses and into the voting booths is to make it a Clinton McCain race.  

If you don't count her time as the wife of a politician, she doesn't have a bit more experience than Obama.   

You're not stupid, just by the words you use, you're a good 'brazillion' times brighter than Bush.... John?  John McCain? Is that you? That IS you!! I knew it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, Hillary supporters are bound and determined to put McCain in the white house.   The only way to get the republicans off their asses and into the voting booths is to make it a Clinton McCain race.  </p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t count her time as the wife of a politician, she doesn&#8217;t have a bit more experience than Obama.   </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not stupid, just by the words you use, you&#8217;re a good &#8216;brazillion&#8217; times brighter than Bush&#8230;. John?  John McCain? Is that you? That IS you!! I knew it!</p>
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		<title>By: robertdfeinman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368558</link>
		<dc:creator>robertdfeinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suppose Obama wins on a platform of bipartisanship and then the Republicans refuse to cooperate, what then?

Just look at the past year, they have filibustered something like 140 bills. Why should they change tactics just because a Dem president asks them to?

I'd like to hear how this bipartisanship is supposed to work when only one side wants to negotiate. What's the plan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suppose Obama wins on a platform of bipartisanship and then the Republicans refuse to cooperate, what then?</p>
<p>Just look at the past year, they have filibustered something like 140 bills. Why should they change tactics just because a Dem president asks them to?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to hear how this bipartisanship is supposed to work when only one side wants to negotiate. What&#8217;s the plan?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant analysis of the Obama Media machine.  He is a slogan with little concrete thought behind that.  The media has fallen for it hook line and sinker, and as a result, so have the rest of the American people who are used to finding out about their candidates from 2 second sound clips.   I can't deny that the campaign is brilliant, but it is an insult to anyone who actually cares about hearing about the ISSUES.

If you ask the Obama supporters what he's running on, they say change and hope. Their answers tell the tale.  There is nothing more to it, and they can't say any more then that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant analysis of the Obama Media machine.  He is a slogan with little concrete thought behind that.  The media has fallen for it hook line and sinker, and as a result, so have the rest of the American people who are used to finding out about their candidates from 2 second sound clips.   I can&#8217;t deny that the campaign is brilliant, but it is an insult to anyone who actually cares about hearing about the ISSUES.</p>
<p>If you ask the Obama supporters what he&#8217;s running on, they say change and hope. Their answers tell the tale.  There is nothing more to it, and they can&#8217;t say any more then that.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tyndall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Tyndall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this observer's opinion, the speeches of the two Democratic candidates on Super Tuesday night closed the oratory gap significantly. Rodham Clinton's was more aspirational than usual; Obama's was more detailed and specific. Her Statue of Liberty coda was particularly well framed in its inspirational pitch. So distinctions between the two based on rhetoric have narrowed, at least in terms of how the speeches were written.

Delivery is another matter. Rodham Clinton's speaking style was flat and unmodulated. She rushed through her speech and trampled on applause lines. She conveyed no understanding of the rhythm of the words she was reading or how to build a crescendo. It seemed she was exhausted and just wanted to get off the stage as swiftly as would seem decorous. If one conducted a word count, Obama must have spoken at half the cadence. He waited for his words to sink in, listened for what lines attracted applause, and responded to his audience's enthusiasm.

BuzzMachine characterizes these two different rhetorical approaches as her managerial style versus his spiritual one. Fair enough. To this ear, she seems more task-oriented, getting the speech done and getting off the stage; he seems more interested in persuasion, testing how his words are sinking in with his audience. The difference could also be characterized as that between solipsism and outreach.

And on the evidence of last night, if BuzzMachine really believes that oratorical ineptitude is a desirable trait in a candidate, it should switch its endorsement forthwith to John McCain. His victory speech was insipid, trivial and mawkish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this observer&#8217;s opinion, the speeches of the two Democratic candidates on Super Tuesday night closed the oratory gap significantly. Rodham Clinton&#8217;s was more aspirational than usual; Obama&#8217;s was more detailed and specific. Her Statue of Liberty coda was particularly well framed in its inspirational pitch. So distinctions between the two based on rhetoric have narrowed, at least in terms of how the speeches were written.</p>
<p>Delivery is another matter. Rodham Clinton&#8217;s speaking style was flat and unmodulated. She rushed through her speech and trampled on applause lines. She conveyed no understanding of the rhythm of the words she was reading or how to build a crescendo. It seemed she was exhausted and just wanted to get off the stage as swiftly as would seem decorous. If one conducted a word count, Obama must have spoken at half the cadence. He waited for his words to sink in, listened for what lines attracted applause, and responded to his audience&#8217;s enthusiasm.</p>
<p>BuzzMachine characterizes these two different rhetorical approaches as her managerial style versus his spiritual one. Fair enough. To this ear, she seems more task-oriented, getting the speech done and getting off the stage; he seems more interested in persuasion, testing how his words are sinking in with his audience. The difference could also be characterized as that between solipsism and outreach.</p>
<p>And on the evidence of last night, if BuzzMachine really believes that oratorical ineptitude is a desirable trait in a candidate, it should switch its endorsement forthwith to John McCain. His victory speech was insipid, trivial and mawkish.</p>
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		<title>By: Aspertame</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aspertame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing that is actually striking about Obama support is that, for whatever his shortcomings, he's just not the worst of the bunch, from the Dem or the GOP side.

It's my opinion that most - nope, probably ALL of the front runners would never have gotten so far as a candidate in any previous election year, and that has nothing to do with race or gender.  Is being an unproven "inspiring" newbie that much worse than being a cynically corrupt, philandering opportunist?  A true believer that wants to bring the nation together under (his) god, albeit in a rather affable, non-threatening style?  A presidential spouse angling for 8 more years of hegemony bordering on right-of-kings?  -- Tell me she's still with him for love.  They're business partners and the business is politics.

So no, in any other election year, I'd be impressed by Obama - but give him my vote?  More likely I'd stand with those who say go back, get a battle scar or two, show your mettle and try again.  This year, I'll at least consider giving him my vote just on the grounds that he is the "least odious".  You can add to that my fairly deep suspicion based on recollection of her past White House years, that a H. Clinton presidency will become just as ideologically isolated and deeply mired in defensive secrecy as the current administration is.  Bonus point irony level:  Some pundits are already theorizing that W has more or less accommodated himself to the notion of an HC presidency, and considers THAT the lesser evil (than Obama, say.)

In any case, a dem in the White House may be a boon long term for the GOP, considering the economic house of cards built on bubbles, that is going down right now.  Can we say "Hoover"?) Maybe now they are just trying to orchestrate the least embarrassing loss possible - "hey, let's give it to the loyalist war hero" is no stretch under that scenario.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that is actually striking about Obama support is that, for whatever his shortcomings, he&#8217;s just not the worst of the bunch, from the Dem or the GOP side.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my opinion that most - nope, probably ALL of the front runners would never have gotten so far as a candidate in any previous election year, and that has nothing to do with race or gender.  Is being an unproven &#8220;inspiring&#8221; newbie that much worse than being a cynically corrupt, philandering opportunist?  A true believer that wants to bring the nation together under (his) god, albeit in a rather affable, non-threatening style?  A presidential spouse angling for 8 more years of hegemony bordering on right-of-kings?  &#8212; Tell me she&#8217;s still with him for love.  They&#8217;re business partners and the business is politics.</p>
<p>So no, in any other election year, I&#8217;d be impressed by Obama - but give him my vote?  More likely I&#8217;d stand with those who say go back, get a battle scar or two, show your mettle and try again.  This year, I&#8217;ll at least consider giving him my vote just on the grounds that he is the &#8220;least odious&#8221;.  You can add to that my fairly deep suspicion based on recollection of her past White House years, that a H. Clinton presidency will become just as ideologically isolated and deeply mired in defensive secrecy as the current administration is.  Bonus point irony level:  Some pundits are already theorizing that W has more or less accommodated himself to the notion of an HC presidency, and considers THAT the lesser evil (than Obama, say.)</p>
<p>In any case, a dem in the White House may be a boon long term for the GOP, considering the economic house of cards built on bubbles, that is going down right now.  Can we say &#8220;Hoover&#8221;?) Maybe now they are just trying to orchestrate the least embarrassing loss possible - &#8220;hey, let&#8217;s give it to the loyalist war hero&#8221; is no stretch under that scenario.</p>
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		<title>By: LanceThruster</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368539</link>
		<dc:creator>LanceThruster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 00:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Empty rhetoric is par for the course across the board as opposed to a disqualifier. My horse is out of the race but I'm voting Obama instead of Hillary because for all her managerial skills, she was just punching the clock like anyone else. Whoever is willing and able to keep our Constitutional protections from evaporating needs to be given the job as soon as they can start. Hillary is just a little less incompetent in that regard than "wrong way" Joe Lieberman (who *she* endorsed!), but not by much.

I am not afraid (except of those who play up fear so much in order to gain power). Anyone who was dumb enough to vote for Bush should sit this one out btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Empty rhetoric is par for the course across the board as opposed to a disqualifier. My horse is out of the race but I&#8217;m voting Obama instead of Hillary because for all her managerial skills, she was just punching the clock like anyone else. Whoever is willing and able to keep our Constitutional protections from evaporating needs to be given the job as soon as they can start. Hillary is just a little less incompetent in that regard than &#8220;wrong way&#8221; Joe Lieberman (who *she* endorsed!), but not by much.</p>
<p>I am not afraid (except of those who play up fear so much in order to gain power). Anyone who was dumb enough to vote for Bush should sit this one out btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Lessig on Obama</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368535</link>
		<dc:creator>Lessig on Obama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 22:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] taking a serious interest in the candidates yesterday, when I became embroiled in the debate onÂ Buzz Machine. Â Having readÂ Obama&#8217;s Blueprint for Change,Â I&#8217;m increasingly convinced US voters [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] taking a serious interest in the candidates yesterday, when I became embroiled in the debate onÂ Buzz Machine. Â Having readÂ Obama&#8217;s Blueprint for Change,Â I&#8217;m increasingly convinced US voters [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368532</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@How About the Future. 

I'm not so sure that Obama will want to bring Hillary along as VP, but I suppose that would be the smartest move. I don't think any of the Republicans running would have much of a chance against a Obama/Clinton alliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@How About the Future. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not so sure that Obama will want to bring Hillary along as VP, but I suppose that would be the smartest move. I don&#8217;t think any of the Republicans running would have much of a chance against a Obama/Clinton alliance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368531</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add (in addition to my agreement with you as indicated in my earlier comment) that even Barack's "plan" -- his Blueprint for Change -- is empty rhetoric.  His ideas sound great, but nowhere does he detail how he will implement and, more important still, PAY for his changes.  There is a lot of "Obama will..." but not a whole lot of "Obama will, by..."  I'd like my President to have a true plan, not a brainstorm.  

Let the rotten vegetable tossing begin.  [covering face with arm]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add (in addition to my agreement with you as indicated in my earlier comment) that even Barack&#8217;s &#8220;plan&#8221; &#8212; his Blueprint for Change &#8212; is empty rhetoric.  His ideas sound great, but nowhere does he detail how he will implement and, more important still, PAY for his changes.  There is a lot of &#8220;Obama will&#8230;&#8221; but not a whole lot of &#8220;Obama will, by&#8230;&#8221;  I&#8217;d like my President to have a true plan, not a brainstorm.  </p>
<p>Let the rotten vegetable tossing begin.  [covering face with arm]</p>
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		<title>By: chico haas</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368530</link>
		<dc:creator>chico haas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Rodham Hussein.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. Rodham Hussein.</p>
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		<title>By: How about the future</title>
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		<dc:creator>How about the future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been waiting for years to come back into the Democratic fold, and the Kennedy family's "endorsement" of Obama is yet one more reason to wait.  Why I, or anyone, should care who they favor in any election is mystifying.  Think the Bushes and the Clintons are American royalty?  The empires they have created pale in comparison to the Kennedy clan.  And the arrogance and idolatry of Ted's speech comparing Obama and his brother is approximately only 4% less hilarious than a 45-year, 8-term US Senator supporting the candidate of "change".

Doesn't really matter, I suppose.  Clinton/Obama will be the ticket vs. McCain/Lieberman.  The rest is just window dressing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been waiting for years to come back into the Democratic fold, and the Kennedy family&#8217;s &#8220;endorsement&#8221; of Obama is yet one more reason to wait.  Why I, or anyone, should care who they favor in any election is mystifying.  Think the Bushes and the Clintons are American royalty?  The empires they have created pale in comparison to the Kennedy clan.  And the arrogance and idolatry of Ted&#8217;s speech comparing Obama and his brother is approximately only 4% less hilarious than a 45-year, 8-term US Senator supporting the candidate of &#8220;change&#8221;.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t really matter, I suppose.  Clinton/Obama will be the ticket vs. McCain/Lieberman.  The rest is just window dressing.</p>
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		<title>By: Harrison</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368527</link>
		<dc:creator>Harrison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawrence Lessig: Why I'm 4 Obama: http://lessig.org/blog/2008/02/20_minutes_or_so_on_why_i_am_4.html

transcript:

http://blog.printf.net/articles/2008/2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence Lessig: Why I&#8217;m 4 Obama: <a href="http://lessig.org/blog/2008/02/20_minutes_or_so_on_why_i_am_4.html" rel="nofollow">http://lessig.org/blog/2008/02/20_minutes_or_so_on_why_i_am_4.html</a></p>
<p>transcript:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.printf.net/articles/2008/2" rel="nofollow">http://blog.printf.net/articles/2008/2</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368525</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@submandave: you say that you don't want to perpetuate the "do this or else" fear mongering that we've dealt with over the last 7 years, but isn't that exactly what you are doing? 

Personally, I think that Obama would handle threats better than Bush has over the last 7 years. Bush has used fear as a tactic throughout his campaign. It would be nice to have an intelligent and composed leader at the helm if, God forbid, something is actually DONE to harm us. Or would you be concerned that he wouldn't be as interested as Bush was in policing the world?

After Hillary's second teary incident yesterday, I might be a bit concerned if she was in command when actual threats transpired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@submandave: you say that you don&#8217;t want to perpetuate the &#8220;do this or else&#8221; fear mongering that we&#8217;ve dealt with over the last 7 years, but isn&#8217;t that exactly what you are doing? </p>
<p>Personally, I think that Obama would handle threats better than Bush has over the last 7 years. Bush has used fear as a tactic throughout his campaign. It would be nice to have an intelligent and composed leader at the helm if, God forbid, something is actually DONE to harm us. Or would you be concerned that he wouldn&#8217;t be as interested as Bush was in policing the world?</p>
<p>After Hillary&#8217;s second teary incident yesterday, I might be a bit concerned if she was in command when actual threats transpired.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/04/were-hiring-a-manager-not-a-spiritual-adviser/#comment-368524</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok. Maybe you're right Jeff. I only recently realized that Hillary was an excellent manager for big business when she served as a Director on the Wal*Mart board from 1986-1992.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZhwV24PmM

Maybe she could bring Ken Lay on as VP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok. Maybe you&#8217;re right Jeff. I only recently realized that Hillary was an excellent manager for big business when she served as a Director on the Wal*Mart board from 1986-1992.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZhwV24PmM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuZhwV24PmM</a></p>
<p>Maybe she could bring Ken Lay on as VP.</p>
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