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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: The news delivery business versus the news paper business. -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-372894</link>
		<dc:creator>The news delivery business versus the news paper business. -- Hoover&#8217;s Business Insight Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a simple thought I&#8217;ve been mulling for a while as I&#8217;ve watched the unfolding horror of newspaper circulation declines: People in the newspaper business have made the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian E</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-369460</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 05:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smalltown papers and large dailys all face the same problems,but are
 not created equal.
 People are deluged with information from the web,cell phones, radio,tv,
 even electronic bladerunner like billboards.
 To the point we have the attention span of first graders.
 And thats the big problem,grabbing peoples attention,and advertisers 
 only have x amount of cash to spread around.
 Papers ,if they expect to charge actual money have to jazz it up ,look
 at most daily papers and they all have the same taste "vannila"
 YOU HAVE TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO PICK THE DAMN THING UP!
 Spicy headlines , lead stories that make readers WANT to turn pages,
 and stories that yes.... may actually get people riled.
 The vanilla news is meant to placecate the masses.If you want to compete
 against all the other distractions you got to be a Rocky road,double cherry
 sundae folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smalltown papers and large dailys all face the same problems,but are<br />
 not created equal.<br />
 People are deluged with information from the web,cell phones, radio,tv,<br />
 even electronic bladerunner like billboards.<br />
 To the point we have the attention span of first graders.<br />
 And thats the big problem,grabbing peoples attention,and advertisers<br />
 only have x amount of cash to spread around.<br />
 Papers ,if they expect to charge actual money have to jazz it up ,look<br />
 at most daily papers and they all have the same taste &#8220;vannila&#8221;<br />
 YOU HAVE TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO PICK THE DAMN THING UP!<br />
 Spicy headlines , lead stories that make readers WANT to turn pages,<br />
 and stories that yes&#8230;. may actually get people riled.<br />
 The vanilla news is meant to placecate the masses.If you want to compete<br />
 against all the other distractions you got to be a Rocky road,double cherry<br />
 sundae folks.</p>
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		<title>By: FundstÃ¼cke &#171; stylebus</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-369101</link>
		<dc:creator>FundstÃ¼cke &#171; stylebus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] fÃ¼r QualitÃ¤tsjournalismus hat Ã¼brigens ein Kommentator mit dem schÃ¶nen Namen Seentomuch hier formuliert: &#8220;Take the greed out of the business.&#8221;Â        [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] fÃ¼r QualitÃ¤tsjournalismus hat Ã¼brigens ein Kommentator mit dem schÃ¶nen Namen Seentomuch hier formuliert: &#8220;Take the greed out of the business.&#8221;Â        [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seentoomuch</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368883</link>
		<dc:creator>Seentoomuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fire the upper management that treat a paper like a box of detergent. The problem with newspapers is they want the type of profit you get from Keebler or Chiquita. 

Newspapers used to be owned by people who loved the business. They existed to bring the news, to be shared, to be talked about, to be saved. To clip and tuck away, to frame, to hold on to an event, a milestone. People trusted it, identified with it. Loved it or hated it but felt it was their own. The owners were content to make a profit and keep the news paper running. Not to rape it for all its worth then sell to the next guy who didn't give a hoot. 

It's a living breathing thing. Not cereal, not a car, not a new athletic shoe. 

Get the greed out of the industry. It sickens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire the upper management that treat a paper like a box of detergent. The problem with newspapers is they want the type of profit you get from Keebler or Chiquita. </p>
<p>Newspapers used to be owned by people who loved the business. They existed to bring the news, to be shared, to be talked about, to be saved. To clip and tuck away, to frame, to hold on to an event, a milestone. People trusted it, identified with it. Loved it or hated it but felt it was their own. The owners were content to make a profit and keep the news paper running. Not to rape it for all its worth then sell to the next guy who didn&#8217;t give a hoot. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a living breathing thing. Not cereal, not a car, not a new athletic shoe. </p>
<p>Get the greed out of the industry. It sickens me.</p>
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		<title>By: Using the Internet to Fill the Foreign Correspondent Void &#171; Bytesizedwords&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368863</link>
		<dc:creator>Using the Internet to Fill the Foreign Correspondent Void &#171; Bytesizedwords&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] up the oft-talked about problem concerning the dying newspaper industry, asking his readers to what steps they would take if they owned the Boston Globe or Sun-Times. What radical steps would - or could - a newspaper owner take in order to keep it afloat? Reading [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] up the oft-talked about problem concerning the dying newspaper industry, asking his readers to what steps they would take if they owned the Boston Globe or Sun-Times. What radical steps would - or could - a newspaper owner take in order to keep it afloat? Reading [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbert</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368856</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Focus on building a community, obviously communities are the things of the future. The newspaper is like a brand you feel connected to it or you don't. Make sure to connect to your readers and try to use the collective wisdom your readers have.

This means you have to focus, put energy in the things that make you strong and syndicate the things that cost you energy with valuable and equal partners.

Are newspapers the new magazines? With a release span of once a week magazines often have to write around the news, or make it. With todays (new) media consumption a newspaper reporting the news is often like a magazine. You already knew about it.

Newspapers have to focus on the things they are good at, this will make them more valuable, give direction and identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focus on building a community, obviously communities are the things of the future. The newspaper is like a brand you feel connected to it or you don&#8217;t. Make sure to connect to your readers and try to use the collective wisdom your readers have.</p>
<p>This means you have to focus, put energy in the things that make you strong and syndicate the things that cost you energy with valuable and equal partners.</p>
<p>Are newspapers the new magazines? With a release span of once a week magazines often have to write around the news, or make it. With todays (new) media consumption a newspaper reporting the news is often like a magazine. You already knew about it.</p>
<p>Newspapers have to focus on the things they are good at, this will make them more valuable, give direction and identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368838</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given we live in a world where information is "essential" the plight of the newspaper is disturbing. But as in anthing Change  is a must.

Most newspapers cater  not too often to their local readers.  When I pick up my paper, I am oftern reading about someone 'out there' -- great, but is there nothing worthy to  be written about the local business man/woman in my township?  Going online and embracing local communties --  and there are so many vibrant ones,  would be a way to go to keep our newspapers going. 

 Short of that.... old style journalism dies!  The words are "new media" multi-platforms, and that interprets innovation and  survival.

www.vernasmith.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given we live in a world where information is &#8220;essential&#8221; the plight of the newspaper is disturbing. But as in anthing Change  is a must.</p>
<p>Most newspapers cater  not too often to their local readers.  When I pick up my paper, I am oftern reading about someone &#8216;out there&#8217; &#8212; great, but is there nothing worthy to  be written about the local business man/woman in my township?  Going online and embracing local communties &#8212;  and there are so many vibrant ones,  would be a way to go to keep our newspapers going. </p>
<p> Short of that&#8230;. old style journalism dies!  The words are &#8220;new media&#8221; multi-platforms, and that interprets innovation and  survival.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vernasmith.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vernasmith.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Walter Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368835</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's only one thing they can do - go online.  The day of Dead Tree newspapers are for the most part over.   The most important piece of information in the NY Times story was in the next to the last graf:  &lt;i&gt;But for every dollar advertisers pay to reach a print reader, they pay about 5 cents, on average, to reach an Internet reader.&lt;/i&gt;  Naturally,  advertisers will eventually cease paying for wasted advertising.

Somehow, expenses will have to be trimmed to stay inside of revenues.  Just as it didn't make sense to pay people to manually transcribe words once movable type was invented, it no longer makes economic sense to print words that can be viewed electronically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s only one thing they can do - go online.  The day of Dead Tree newspapers are for the most part over.   The most important piece of information in the NY Times story was in the next to the last graf:  <i>But for every dollar advertisers pay to reach a print reader, they pay about 5 cents, on average, to reach an Internet reader.</i>  Naturally,  advertisers will eventually cease paying for wasted advertising.</p>
<p>Somehow, expenses will have to be trimmed to stay inside of revenues.  Just as it didn&#8217;t make sense to pay people to manually transcribe words once movable type was invented, it no longer makes economic sense to print words that can be viewed electronically.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Brocklehurst.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368833</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann Brocklehurst.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hyperlocal News is over-hyped (now updated)...&lt;/strong&gt;

The traditional newspaper model targets people based on where they live, but this needs to change: Â“You just canÂ’t target people by places, you target people by who they are.Â”...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hyperlocal News is over-hyped (now updated)&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The traditional newspaper model targets people based on where they live, but this needs to change: Â“You just canÂ’t target people by places, you target people by who they are.Â”&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368823</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 14:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fire all those overpaid columnists, and making deals with a bunch of assorted bloggers instead would be a good cost reducing idea, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fire all those overpaid columnists, and making deals with a bunch of assorted bloggers instead would be a good cost reducing idea, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McVetta</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368807</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris McVetta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Professional" journalism has become too incestuous - it's just a big, bad, bland, homogenized "good ol' boys" network now - more worried about satisfying advertisers than reporting "the truth" or finding any "fresh voices."

If I owned a newspaper, I'd go out and do some reporting the old fashioned way: By dressing up in a Batman outfit and scaring the bejeezus out of my sources until they sang like a canary!  And then, obviously, blog about it back in the Bat Cave.

What - Too much?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Professional&#8221; journalism has become too incestuous - it&#8217;s just a big, bad, bland, homogenized &#8220;good ol&#8217; boys&#8221; network now - more worried about satisfying advertisers than reporting &#8220;the truth&#8221; or finding any &#8220;fresh voices.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I owned a newspaper, I&#8217;d go out and do some reporting the old fashioned way: By dressing up in a Batman outfit and scaring the bejeezus out of my sources until they sang like a canary!  And then, obviously, blog about it back in the Bat Cave.</p>
<p>What - Too much?</p>
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		<title>By: obo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368800</link>
		<dc:creator>obo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 01:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Focus on in-depth, long-form weekly investigative articles in magazine format and online, with two or three reporters a day covering breaking news and posting it to an RSS feed and on Twitter.

Do NOT go Gannett and focus on aggregating local tidbits like event calendars and photo galleries. Individuals and groups do that better than a company ever will. Instead, seek out these ground and find ways to incorporate their content â€” on their terms â€” into yours.

Work with organizations â€” businesses, non-profits, government agencies â€” to make it easier to publish their own news frequently, and co-sponsor it under your brand umbrella.

Use Internet feeds better. They're not just for updates anymore. Look at a few Yahoo! Pipes applications as illustrations.

You have to keep the print element in there somehow because there's still money to be made â€” a lot, really, even if it is downhill â€” but minimize the costs of production and distribution with small-format, convenient, 3-to-5-a-week niche publications â€” event guides, water-cooler news, local business news, local entertainment news, local government news, and broad-scoped opinion. 

If it's duplicated elsewhere on the Internet, link to it unless you have something to add. The wires can be incredibly useful if they're localized â€” most papers miss this point.

Every paper should have a parallel entity â€” lawrence.com to the LWJ, for example â€”Â community-driven, youth-targeted, mobile-accesible, informative and entertaining site filled with useful who-what-where-when information.

The broadsheet should die, completely. People don't like it? Carriage-drivers learned how to use cars; you can learn to read something that's a different shape. Stop coddling codgers and tell them to get over it. No industry carved out its long-term survival by clinging tighter to a shrinking, deprecating market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focus on in-depth, long-form weekly investigative articles in magazine format and online, with two or three reporters a day covering breaking news and posting it to an RSS feed and on Twitter.</p>
<p>Do NOT go Gannett and focus on aggregating local tidbits like event calendars and photo galleries. Individuals and groups do that better than a company ever will. Instead, seek out these ground and find ways to incorporate their content â€” on their terms â€” into yours.</p>
<p>Work with organizations â€” businesses, non-profits, government agencies â€” to make it easier to publish their own news frequently, and co-sponsor it under your brand umbrella.</p>
<p>Use Internet feeds better. They&#8217;re not just for updates anymore. Look at a few Yahoo! Pipes applications as illustrations.</p>
<p>You have to keep the print element in there somehow because there&#8217;s still money to be made â€” a lot, really, even if it is downhill â€” but minimize the costs of production and distribution with small-format, convenient, 3-to-5-a-week niche publications â€” event guides, water-cooler news, local business news, local entertainment news, local government news, and broad-scoped opinion. </p>
<p>If it&#8217;s duplicated elsewhere on the Internet, link to it unless you have something to add. The wires can be incredibly useful if they&#8217;re localized â€” most papers miss this point.</p>
<p>Every paper should have a parallel entity â€” lawrence.com to the LWJ, for example â€”Â community-driven, youth-targeted, mobile-accesible, informative and entertaining site filled with useful who-what-where-when information.</p>
<p>The broadsheet should die, completely. People don&#8217;t like it? Carriage-drivers learned how to use cars; you can learn to read something that&#8217;s a different shape. Stop coddling codgers and tell them to get over it. No industry carved out its long-term survival by clinging tighter to a shrinking, deprecating market.</p>
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		<title>By: kahuna</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368791</link>
		<dc:creator>kahuna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 18:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A newspaper is, at bottom, simply a platform to sell advertising. Holier than thou talk about 'missions' and 'journalistic goals' and 'public trust' are just so much bullshit. There's an ad in today's (Sat) NYT for a 49000 dollar Gucci briefcase. Yes, 49k. How many click thru's is it gonna' get? Newspapers are buggy whips........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A newspaper is, at bottom, simply a platform to sell advertising. Holier than thou talk about &#8216;missions&#8217; and &#8216;journalistic goals&#8217; and &#8216;public trust&#8217; are just so much bullshit. There&#8217;s an ad in today&#8217;s (Sat) NYT for a 49000 dollar Gucci briefcase. Yes, 49k. How many click thru&#8217;s is it gonna&#8217; get? Newspapers are buggy whips&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368781</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,
There is nothing that everyone wants to read. That is the problem for newspapers and the promise of the internet, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,<br />
There is nothing that everyone wants to read. That is the problem for newspapers and the promise of the internet, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: darrenh</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368778</link>
		<dc:creator>darrenh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 13:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those who only address content as in online versus print are missing the point. Any fine newspaper could be replicated online with all kinds of "webby" additions.  The key is paying for for that fine staff, especially the newsgatherers. The slide in newspapers of late is coming because advertisers are changing. Print advertising even for small newspapers is just huge. So huge that even the also huge economies of not printing and distributing a print product do not lure many publishers into going all online because of the much diminished advertising revenue. The key is to continue to to be able to deliver content in a way that works for your advertisers. In many places this still can mean a print product for local advertisers if the local newspaper is the best channel for advertising. In small local markets -- and that can be defined as parts of  major city or suburbs or rural areas or small cities -- the local print paper is still likely the best advertising channel. For now. The key will be to see where these small local advertisers mwill turn to drive business and be part of that. Jeff's proposal for widgetizing content and connecting advertising you sell is the kind of shift I think is going to happen down the road that will really change how news is done. You'll have to be willing to go anywhere to drive clicks to your advertisers.
And hyper local is absolutely right for what your staff and your publication generates. What's happening nearby is what you have to offer the world through the web or print. It really is the franchise, as cliche as that is becoming.
As for the question, I think a network of affiliated but separate -- in look, in approach, in  subjects, in voices --  sites or blogs working narrow niches with ads sold to the right advertisers local and national might be the way a mainstream paper could parlay its talented news staff into a publication of the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those who only address content as in online versus print are missing the point. Any fine newspaper could be replicated online with all kinds of &#8220;webby&#8221; additions.  The key is paying for for that fine staff, especially the newsgatherers. The slide in newspapers of late is coming because advertisers are changing. Print advertising even for small newspapers is just huge. So huge that even the also huge economies of not printing and distributing a print product do not lure many publishers into going all online because of the much diminished advertising revenue. The key is to continue to to be able to deliver content in a way that works for your advertisers. In many places this still can mean a print product for local advertisers if the local newspaper is the best channel for advertising. In small local markets &#8212; and that can be defined as parts of  major city or suburbs or rural areas or small cities &#8212; the local print paper is still likely the best advertising channel. For now. The key will be to see where these small local advertisers mwill turn to drive business and be part of that. Jeff&#8217;s proposal for widgetizing content and connecting advertising you sell is the kind of shift I think is going to happen down the road that will really change how news is done. You&#8217;ll have to be willing to go anywhere to drive clicks to your advertisers.<br />
And hyper local is absolutely right for what your staff and your publication generates. What&#8217;s happening nearby is what you have to offer the world through the web or print. It really is the franchise, as cliche as that is becoming.<br />
As for the question, I think a network of affiliated but separate &#8212; in look, in approach, in  subjects, in voices &#8212;  sites or blogs working narrow niches with ads sold to the right advertisers local and national might be the way a mainstream paper could parlay its talented news staff into a publication of the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Very Simple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Very Simple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You act like this is the first business to ever die.  I would call my accountant and say we have x years of y revenue til z collapse.  If my stake was higher than the net x times y I would write off the loss.  In the mean time I would try to win the race to the bottom, and that race will have a winner, pretentious proclamations about "journalism" notwithstanding.  Many commenters have already crossed the zero price finish line.  There is also a zero-journalism race, but that has probably already been won by google.  (Zero-price + zero journalism already exists in my hometown of SF, I wish them the best.)  The problem is not so much that there is no niche for journalists, there is no niche for generalists, really by definition.  You have to have a lot of detailed knowledge about very specific things to participate in the networked information economy; in my experience local journalists have more of a generalist don't-bother-me-with-details-god-forbid-equations-I-went-to-j-school-so-I'd-never-have-to-do-math-again kind of way.  Here is a hint as to what publications/blogs/etc are valuable: what do people who are immersed in the relevant topics read?  The air-balloon summaries can be done by whoever, we no longer need newspapers for that.  So, what should a newspaper do?  Put its affairs in order, hope to postpone rather than avoid the inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You act like this is the first business to ever die.  I would call my accountant and say we have x years of y revenue til z collapse.  If my stake was higher than the net x times y I would write off the loss.  In the mean time I would try to win the race to the bottom, and that race will have a winner, pretentious proclamations about &#8220;journalism&#8221; notwithstanding.  Many commenters have already crossed the zero price finish line.  There is also a zero-journalism race, but that has probably already been won by google.  (Zero-price + zero journalism already exists in my hometown of SF, I wish them the best.)  The problem is not so much that there is no niche for journalists, there is no niche for generalists, really by definition.  You have to have a lot of detailed knowledge about very specific things to participate in the networked information economy; in my experience local journalists have more of a generalist don&#8217;t-bother-me-with-details-god-forbid-equations-I-went-to-j-school-so-I&#8217;d-never-have-to-do-math-again kind of way.  Here is a hint as to what publications/blogs/etc are valuable: what do people who are immersed in the relevant topics read?  The air-balloon summaries can be done by whoever, we no longer need newspapers for that.  So, what should a newspaper do?  Put its affairs in order, hope to postpone rather than avoid the inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not everyone wants to read about what Aunt Maisie down the street.</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Cubbison</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368769</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cubbison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the comments suggest, any attempt to rethink newspapers draws comments from at least three kinds of readers. Newspapers should develop strategies for each kind. Despite what seem like big changes so far, newspapers still tend to think in terms of one-size-fits-all. How hard can it be to give people what they want?  In no particular order, the readers and possible strategies:

People who have gone online and aren't coming back. A robust Web site for readers who have high standards about how a Web site should work and feel. Perhaps with "skins" at a click of the button for just the text, or just the bloggers, or Web 2.0 goodness, or irresistible multimedia, or streams and feeds.

People who love the feel of paper with a cup of coffee. A Sunday newspaper with classic, golden-age journalism, "the traditional newspaper for traditional newspaper readers." Weekday papers, especially street sales, would be lean and  efficient, for picking up in the coffee shop or pizza parlor while waiting for the order.

Partisans who want a paper that cares about the things they care about. Give them The Daily Olbermann, already. Or The Morning Steyn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the comments suggest, any attempt to rethink newspapers draws comments from at least three kinds of readers. Newspapers should develop strategies for each kind. Despite what seem like big changes so far, newspapers still tend to think in terms of one-size-fits-all. How hard can it be to give people what they want?  In no particular order, the readers and possible strategies:</p>
<p>People who have gone online and aren&#8217;t coming back. A robust Web site for readers who have high standards about how a Web site should work and feel. Perhaps with &#8220;skins&#8221; at a click of the button for just the text, or just the bloggers, or Web 2.0 goodness, or irresistible multimedia, or streams and feeds.</p>
<p>People who love the feel of paper with a cup of coffee. A Sunday newspaper with classic, golden-age journalism, &#8220;the traditional newspaper for traditional newspaper readers.&#8221; Weekday papers, especially street sales, would be lean and  efficient, for picking up in the coffee shop or pizza parlor while waiting for the order.</p>
<p>Partisans who want a paper that cares about the things they care about. Give them The Daily Olbermann, already. Or The Morning Steyn.</p>
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		<title>By: Garbanzo</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368768</link>
		<dc:creator>Garbanzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 05:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Fire the top editor and replace him/her with someone who has a consumer marketing background but not an editorial background. Newspaper people are the worst thing for newspapers (whiny, whiny, whiny!)
2) Establish some topline goals that you want the paper to achieve in terms of audience, revenue and profit
3) Give him/her free reign to remake the paper as he/she sees fit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Fire the top editor and replace him/her with someone who has a consumer marketing background but not an editorial background. Newspaper people are the worst thing for newspapers (whiny, whiny, whiny!)<br />
2) Establish some topline goals that you want the paper to achieve in terms of audience, revenue and profit<br />
3) Give him/her free reign to remake the paper as he/she sees fit</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368767</link>
		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 02:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that people only write about the TECHNOLOGICAL issues facing newspapers?

Why won't people acknowledge that the incredible, boring, un-thinking, jejune, extreme left-wing bias of the print media is what did it in.  No thinking person wants to read the same arrogant pseudo-intellectual day after day after day.

Face it.  The content of the news paper sucks.  Sure people will read it FOR FREE, but no one with half a mind will PAY for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that people only write about the TECHNOLOGICAL issues facing newspapers?</p>
<p>Why won&#8217;t people acknowledge that the incredible, boring, un-thinking, jejune, extreme left-wing bias of the print media is what did it in.  No thinking person wants to read the same arrogant pseudo-intellectual day after day after day.</p>
<p>Face it.  The content of the news paper sucks.  Sure people will read it FOR FREE, but no one with half a mind will PAY for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Blog Business Summit &#187; What would you do with a newspaper? Add blogs?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368763</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Business Summit &#187; What would you do with a newspaper? Add blogs?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 01:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what Jeff Jarvis is asking on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Contrarian</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368761</link>
		<dc:creator>Contrarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like reading my big sheet paper.  I get 7 days of it delivered by a guy in a truck.  I get the hyperlocal weekly paper too, also delivered by a guy in a truck.  Both of them are available online for free.  The weekly's web site is miserable and doesn't have too many ads.  The daily's web site is not bad.

I spend a lot of time reading from a screen.  Not only is it my job but I read stuff I couldn't find or find the time for or afford if hardcopy was the only option.

Reading the hardcopy paper is much faster than reading it online (RSS or not).  In square inches or pixels/dots there's no electronic display (certainly not one I can lift or take to the can with me) that comes close to what fits on a printed page.  That day may come but it's not in sight now.

There are many of us who like getting the paper.  I skip the national stuff that I've already seen on the TV or online.  I look at the local ads but never the national (or car) ads.  My daily is part of a big group so they print stories from the group writers.  I hardly ever read them.  I only read stuff about local politics, business, some sports.  If there's no business model that supports selling me some paper with that sort of content, then I guess the newspapers fold.  But I'd still rather not be tied to a computer or even worse some tiny LCD screen with eye-fatiguing print and tedious scrolling.  To me online is not the answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like reading my big sheet paper.  I get 7 days of it delivered by a guy in a truck.  I get the hyperlocal weekly paper too, also delivered by a guy in a truck.  Both of them are available online for free.  The weekly&#8217;s web site is miserable and doesn&#8217;t have too many ads.  The daily&#8217;s web site is not bad.</p>
<p>I spend a lot of time reading from a screen.  Not only is it my job but I read stuff I couldn&#8217;t find or find the time for or afford if hardcopy was the only option.</p>
<p>Reading the hardcopy paper is much faster than reading it online (RSS or not).  In square inches or pixels/dots there&#8217;s no electronic display (certainly not one I can lift or take to the can with me) that comes close to what fits on a printed page.  That day may come but it&#8217;s not in sight now.</p>
<p>There are many of us who like getting the paper.  I skip the national stuff that I&#8217;ve already seen on the TV or online.  I look at the local ads but never the national (or car) ads.  My daily is part of a big group so they print stories from the group writers.  I hardly ever read them.  I only read stuff about local politics, business, some sports.  If there&#8217;s no business model that supports selling me some paper with that sort of content, then I guess the newspapers fold.  But I&#8217;d still rather not be tied to a computer or even worse some tiny LCD screen with eye-fatiguing print and tedious scrolling.  To me online is not the answer.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wrote about this, in the form of suggestions for &lt;i&gt;The New York Times&lt;/i&gt;. One step I think they should take is to become a social network. Here's the &lt;a href="http://errata.wordie.org/2008/02/new-york-times-should-be-social-network.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;full post&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wrote about this, in the form of suggestions for <i>The New York Times</i>. One step I think they should take is to become a social network. Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://errata.wordie.org/2008/02/new-york-times-should-be-social-network.html" rel="nofollow">full post</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D Goodman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/02/07/whither-withering-newspapers/#comment-368751</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D Goodman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff 
1.	Iâ€™ve read it elsewhere - Get the reporters and editorial staff blogging.
2.	Go online.
3.	Look for new ways to rebrand â€“ a new attitude, personality, emphasis, something that singles the paper out with difference and drop the old appeals that arenâ€™t working. 
4.	Hire an excellent advertising firm and promote the paper in other avenues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff<br />
1.	Iâ€™ve read it elsewhere - Get the reporters and editorial staff blogging.<br />
2.	Go online.<br />
3.	Look for new ways to rebrand â€“ a new attitude, personality, emphasis, something that singles the paper out with difference and drop the old appeals that arenâ€™t working.<br />
4.	Hire an excellent advertising firm and promote the paper in other avenues.</p>
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		<title>By: John C Abell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C Abell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... Whither withering newspapers? ...
(http://tinyurl.com/27w7l6)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Whither withering newspapers? &#8230;<br />
(http://tinyurl.com/27w7l6)</p>
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