Comments on: The challenge of live search http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 05 Dec 2008 08:50:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » My blog is my network http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371787 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » My blog is my network Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:20:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371787 [...] at once. How can I know who’s live doing what where right now? It’s another need for live search — or call it live discovery. It makes me think I want an alert service — but then, the [...] [...] at once. How can I know who’s live doing what where right now? It’s another need for live search — or call it live discovery. It makes me think I want an alert service — but then, the [...]

]]> By: Live Media « Amandallen’s Weblog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371741 Live Media « Amandallen’s Weblog Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:05:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371741 [...] The challenge of live search [...] [...] The challenge of live search [...]

]]> By: Adrian Cockcroft http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371682 Adrian Cockcroft Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:47:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371682 I gave a talk at the BIL conference a few weeks ago and at eComm08 last week on "Millicomputing: The Future in your pocket". I look ahead to the hardware capacity we can expect to have in the next two years and then start thinking about what kind of applications this would enable. With more performance and storage capacity in a much more openly programmable platform we get closer to an always-on mode. Possible uses for this include "Lifelogging" - storing everything you see and hear into a private archive in your pocket. Include a brainwave sensor and capture what you feel as well as using thought to control your device (see Neurosky). Publishing and broadcasting parts of a lifelog in real time is starting to happen with sites like qik and bambuser. However this voyeuristic approach is just the start. If a group of people share their lifelogs in real time you have a kind of "ambient presence" that borders on telepathy. Imagine having your close friends around you in a 3D audio space, and being able to call up their video feed at will. Give this to teenagers and they will use it instead of txt/im and form deep relationships that us old folks won't understand. This takes the conference call concept and extends it to an always on videoconference in your pocket. The headset technologies exist, and a combined stereo audio with camera, microphone and Neurosky sensor doesn't seem too far off. Its great to see these ideas emerging, along with the platforms needed to deliver them. I gave a talk at the BIL conference a few weeks ago and at eComm08 last week on “Millicomputing: The Future in your pocket”. I look ahead to the hardware capacity we can expect to have in the next two years and then start thinking about what kind of applications this would enable. With more performance and storage capacity in a much more openly programmable platform we get closer to an always-on mode.

Possible uses for this include “Lifelogging” - storing everything you see and hear into a private archive in your pocket. Include a brainwave sensor and capture what you feel as well as using thought to control your device (see Neurosky). Publishing and broadcasting parts of a lifelog in real time is starting to happen with sites like qik and bambuser. However this voyeuristic approach is just the start.

If a group of people share their lifelogs in real time you have a kind of “ambient presence” that borders on telepathy. Imagine having your close friends around you in a 3D audio space, and being able to call up their video feed at will. Give this to teenagers and they will use it instead of txt/im and form deep relationships that us old folks won’t understand. This takes the conference call concept and extends it to an always on videoconference in your pocket.

The headset technologies exist, and a combined stereo audio with camera, microphone and Neurosky sensor doesn’t seem too far off.

Its great to see these ideas emerging, along with the platforms needed to deliver them.

]]> By: James http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371677 James Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:40:35 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371677 As an example, I just did a search for "WWGD book" and got your post as a result: "www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/19/wwgd-the-book/ - 2 hours ago - Similar pages" As an example, I just did a search for “WWGD book” and got your post as a result: “www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/19/wwgd-the-book/ - 2 hours ago - Similar pages”

]]> By: James http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371670 James Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:12:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371670 Google does do live search today - several times I've seen people search for a term just mentioned in a post and it turns up at the top of the Google search results page. I'm guessing they're using RSS feeds to inject results quickly. Google does do live search today - several times I’ve seen people search for a term just mentioned in a post and it turns up at the top of the Google search results page. I’m guessing they’re using RSS feeds to inject results quickly.

]]> By: B. Nelson http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371655 B. Nelson Wed, 19 Mar 2008 03:05:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371655 Even when dealing with known, branded sources of live broadcast, there’s a challenge. I want to see whether anyone — TV or radio network... ---------------- Although: http://www.livenewscameras.com/ is managed by "faux news" it links to many other network affiliates, and has a live moderator available. I find it useful for searching for live news feeds such as coverage of a live political speech or "breaking" story. B. Nelson Even when dealing with known, branded sources of live broadcast, there’s a challenge. I want to see whether anyone — TV or radio network…
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Although:
http://www.livenewscameras.com/

is managed by “faux news” it links to many other network affiliates, and has a live moderator available. I find it useful for searching for live news feeds such as coverage of a live political speech or “breaking” story.

B. Nelson

]]> By: links for 2008-03-18 | Jonathan Coffman - Convergence Journalism Specialist and New-Media Evangelist http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371627 links for 2008-03-18 | Jonathan Coffman - Convergence Journalism Specialist and New-Media Evangelist Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:26:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371627 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The challenge of live search [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The challenge of live search [...]

]]> By: Jason http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371605 Jason Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:46:03 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371605 Great post.... we're building the news room of the future at Mahalo that has dozens of video and audio feeds coming in to the "hive" and 30-40 guides building pages in real time. blurry/bad photos here: http://flickr.com/photos/jasoncalacanis/2338477738/ http://flickr.com/photos/jasoncalacanis/2338471192/ At some point this room will have 100 people in it covering the news 24 hours a day in real time. Great post…. we’re building the news room of the future at Mahalo that has dozens of video and audio feeds coming in to the “hive” and 30-40 guides building pages in real time.

blurry/bad photos here:
http://flickr.com/photos/jasoncalacanis/2338477738/
http://flickr.com/photos/jasoncalacanis/2338471192/

At some point this room will have 100 people in it covering the news 24 hours a day in real time.

]]> By: mikke http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371604 mikke Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:42:45 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371604 Jeff, I think the solution is in some kind of "Aggregators". Maybe one for each type of live video, such as News, Sports, Entertainment or what have you. Just recently I have started to follow a swedish start-up, that's trying to do exactly this, and their solution might be exactly what you are looking for. Take a look: http://alpha.bambuser.com/ Jeff,
I think the solution is in some kind of “Aggregators”. Maybe one for each type of live video, such as News, Sports, Entertainment or what have you.
Just recently I have started to follow a swedish start-up, that’s trying to do exactly this, and their solution might be exactly what you are looking for. Take a look:

http://alpha.bambuser.com/

]]> By: Lon Harris http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371602 Lon Harris Tue, 18 Mar 2008 16:35:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371602 Very interesting discussion. These are questions I deal with every day. To cover the world live on the Internet, I'm thinking a multi-pronged approach will be needed - a Twitter-like system in which individuals all over the world could alert millions at once to breaking news in their area, a geotagging metric such as Paul discusses to help viewers disseminate between all the tweets as well as the hypothetical "room full of interns" to organize it all into a format that's effective for a casual Internet user who just wants to know what's going on. Add to that a sophisticated understanding of what drives traffic that would allow an editor to predict some popular search terms before they happen (not possible with earthquakes, but certainly possible with Obama's speech today), and then you've really got something. What, I'm not sure...but something. Very interesting discussion. These are questions I deal with every day. To cover the world live on the Internet, I’m thinking a multi-pronged approach will be needed - a Twitter-like system in which individuals all over the world could alert millions at once to breaking news in their area, a geotagging metric such as Paul discusses to help viewers disseminate between all the tweets as well as the hypothetical “room full of interns” to organize it all into a format that’s effective for a casual Internet user who just wants to know what’s going on.

Add to that a sophisticated understanding of what drives traffic that would allow an editor to predict some popular search terms before they happen (not possible with earthquakes, but certainly possible with Obama’s speech today), and then you’ve really got something. What, I’m not sure…but something.

]]> By: Simon Cast http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371599 Simon Cast Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:24:52 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371599 Interesting concept. Certainly one that does call for some wonderful algorithmic stuff combined with interns ;). First impressions you would be looking at something that ingests a load of dynamic feeds of video, sound and text. Do some evaluation on emotional stress levels, nature of the video (e.g. how quickly the image changes from scene to scene) and look for keywords in the text. then is probably something about looking for a number of similar reports or more importantly how rapidly these reports are coming onto the web. Not perfect I grant you but certainly a good first step. Interesting concept. Certainly one that does call for some wonderful algorithmic stuff combined with interns ;).

First impressions you would be looking at something that ingests a load of dynamic feeds of video, sound and text. Do some evaluation on emotional stress levels, nature of the video (e.g. how quickly the image changes from scene to scene) and look for keywords in the text. then is probably something about looking for a number of similar reports or more importantly how rapidly these reports are coming onto the web.

Not perfect I grant you but certainly a good first step.

]]> By: Paul Bradshaw http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371596 Paul Bradshaw Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:50:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371596 Places like Tweetscan seem an obvious place to find such material - it seems to be a live search. It also provides a further demonstration why journalists should be part of networks generally - when something breaks it's the ones who are on Twitter etc. that get it first, rather than relying on some 'live search' engine to find it. (witness the half hour delay between the UK earthquake breaking on twitter and facebook and then reaching BBC) Then plug in geotagging - a story breaks in Birmingham UK you want to find people there. Or you want something to pick up that there has been a sudden upsurge in tweets from Birmingham UK which alerts you to the fact that something may have happened. GPS mobile phones could make a massive difference here. Places like Tweetscan seem an obvious place to find such material - it seems to be a live search. It also provides a further demonstration why journalists should be part of networks generally - when something breaks it’s the ones who are on Twitter etc. that get it first, rather than relying on some ‘live search’ engine to find it. (witness the half hour delay between the UK earthquake breaking on twitter and facebook and then reaching BBC)
Then plug in geotagging - a story breaks in Birmingham UK you want to find people there. Or you want something to pick up that there has been a sudden upsurge in tweets from Birmingham UK which alerts you to the fact that something may have happened. GPS mobile phones could make a massive difference here.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371594 Kevin Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:20:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371594 No problem. Vast conspiracy, indeed. :) No problem. Vast conspiracy, indeed. :)

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371593 Jeff Jarvis Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:19:18 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371593 Kevin, Weird. I don't know why it disappeared but I republished it. Must be a vast conspiracy. thanks for the alert. Kevin,
Weird. I don’t know why it disappeared but I republished it. Must be a vast conspiracy. thanks for the alert.

]]> By: Kevin http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371592 Kevin Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:15:49 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/18/the-challenge-of-live-search/#comment-371592 Sorry for the off-topic comment, but what happened to the "The Politics of Politics" post? Sorry for the off-topic comment, but what happened to the “The Politics of Politics” post?

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