Comments on: ‘The art of hypocrisy’ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/ by Jeff Jarvis Sun, 07 Sep 2008 15:23:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Nick Buckley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372745 Nick Buckley Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:30:09 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372745 Sorry about that hideously long url - here's a shorter one https://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/10651/Ross_Kemp_detail.jpg Sorry about that hideously long url - here’s a shorter one

https://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/10651/Ross_Kemp_detail.jpg

]]> By: Nick Buckley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372744 Nick Buckley Sat, 05 Apr 2008 13:27:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372744 Can I just point out that in the first video, "Fred" from Michigan is actually an image of British soap actor Ross Kemp! So there are many layers of misrepresentation See the same image at http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/10651/Ross_Kemp_detail.jpg&imgrefurl=https://sheffdocfest.com/speakers/view/385&h=626&w=444&sz=54&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=YCpNqN1voKlRRM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dross%2Bkemp%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN Can I just point out that in the first video, “Fred” from Michigan is actually an image of British soap actor Ross Kemp! So there are many layers of misrepresentation

See the same image at

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://sheffdocfest.com/attachments/10651/Ross_Kemp_detail.jpg&imgrefurl=https://sheffdocfest.com/speakers/view/385&h=626&w=444&sz=54&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=YCpNqN1voKlRRM:&tbnh=136&tbnw=96&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dross%2Bkemp%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-US%26sa%3DN

]]> By: ShellyT http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372373 ShellyT Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:27:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372373 "Barack Obama didn’t get donations from any of those corporations. He got hard-money donations from employees of those corporations. Employees should donate to Barack Obama." LOL! That's how big corporations sneak in lots of money to candidates and get around the donation laws. Duh. Barack is the only one claiming he doesn't get lots of corporate contributions, big special interest money, etc. Because of the way they donate to him, he thinks he can hide the fact that he's lying about that. He's as full of dirty special interest money as any other campaign. Add to these Big Coal, nuclear and all his Wall Street buds. Thanks for the videos, I'm using them on my sites. They're good! “Barack Obama didn’t get donations from any of those corporations.
He got hard-money donations from employees of those corporations.
Employees should donate to Barack Obama.”

LOL!

That’s how big corporations sneak in lots of money to candidates and get around the donation laws. Duh.

Barack is the only one claiming he doesn’t get lots of corporate contributions, big special interest money, etc. Because of the way they donate to him, he thinks he can hide the fact that he’s lying about that. He’s as full of dirty special interest money as any other campaign. Add to these Big Coal, nuclear and all his Wall Street buds. Thanks for the videos, I’m using them on my sites. They’re good!

]]> By: AJ Fish http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372346 AJ Fish Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:28:46 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372346 Given the griping comments, we can probably conclude those videos hit a nerve! Given the griping comments, we can probably conclude those videos hit a nerve!

]]> By: Warren AE http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372268 Warren AE Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:55:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372268 For good data, the Federal Election Commission. http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapApp.do They have good search and analysis menus there. Check it out. Obama and Hillary take about the same type of % breakdowns from various contribution levels. Basically, they both got money from bundlers, special interests or whatever name we call them. People probably gripe about Obama on that he overplays the no-special-interest, no-lobbyist card too much. They're both hardcore politicians practicing the same good old politics and tapping into the same good old money sources. For good data, the Federal Election Commission.
http://www.fec.gov/DisclosureSearch/mapApp.do
They have good search and analysis menus there.
Check it out.

Obama and Hillary take about the same type of % breakdowns from various contribution levels. Basically, they both got money from bundlers, special interests or whatever name we call them. People probably gripe about Obama on that he overplays the no-special-interest, no-lobbyist card too much. They’re both hardcore politicians practicing the same good old politics and tapping into the same good old money sources.

]]> By: Rick Klau http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372254 Rick Klau Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:10:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372254 Charles - The campaigns need to gather info about you when you contribute, including your employer. All donations $200 and above are reported to the FEC. Charles - The campaigns need to gather info about you when you contribute, including your employer. All donations $200 and above are reported to the FEC.

]]> By: Charles http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372248 Charles Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:25:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372248 Just curious, if these are hard money donations, how are they tied to corporations? Do you report your donations to your employer? I don't. Am I required to do this? Just curious, if these are hard money donations, how are they tied to corporations? Do you report your donations to your employer? I don’t. Am I required to do this?

]]> By: Steve K. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372228 Steve K. Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:39:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372228 Jeff, Those two videos are somewhat creative ... and yet, I find myself strangely unmoved ;-) Yeah, I agree with Eric, the campaign contribution video is, at a minimum, misleading. And I heard this story yesterday on NPR: Obama has received $6.7 million from financial institution employees ... and Hillary Clinton has received $6.6 million. That's a pretty darn slim margin of difference, wouldn't you say? http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89163680 The anti-Obama folk are going to need better material than this, I'm afraid. BTW -- I'd like to know what you (and others) think about Bob Cesca's new video "The Tide Is Turning"? I think it's the greatest thing since the will.i.am "Yes We Can" video, but you know I'm biased that way: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-tide-is-turning_b_93391.html Peace, Steve K. Jeff,

Those two videos are somewhat creative … and yet, I find myself strangely unmoved ;-)

Yeah, I agree with Eric, the campaign contribution video is, at a minimum, misleading.

And I heard this story yesterday on NPR: Obama has received $6.7 million from financial institution employees … and Hillary Clinton has received $6.6 million. That’s a pretty darn slim margin of difference, wouldn’t you say?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89163680

The anti-Obama folk are going to need better material than this, I’m afraid.

BTW — I’d like to know what you (and others) think about Bob Cesca’s new video “The Tide Is Turning”? I think it’s the greatest thing since the will.i.am “Yes We Can” video, but you know I’m biased that way:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/the-tide-is-turning_b_93391.html

Peace,
Steve K.

]]> By: Rick Klau http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372227 Rick Klau Fri, 28 Mar 2008 15:36:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372227 Jeff - for one who's castigated the Obama campaign (and his supporters for that matter) as being all hype and no substance, for you to turn around and promote this tripe is surprisingly disingenuous. About that fundraising. Eric's right - these are hard money donations from employees, not PACs or soft money contributions. And while slick packaging appears to impress you (when it's in favor of Hillary), those pesky facts tell a different story: Top recipients, 2008, from lobbyists: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=K02 Top recipients, 2008, from securities and investing: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F07 Top recipients, 2008, from mortgage banking: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F4600 Top recipients, 2008, from finance/credit companies: http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F06 The short answer? Hillary has received more money in every one of those industries than Barack. In some cases (like lobbyists), more than 8x. Hypocritical indeed. Jeff - for one who’s castigated the Obama campaign (and his supporters for that matter) as being all hype and no substance, for you to turn around and promote this tripe is surprisingly disingenuous.

About that fundraising. Eric’s right - these are hard money donations from employees, not PACs or soft money contributions. And while slick packaging appears to impress you (when it’s in favor of Hillary), those pesky facts tell a different story:

Top recipients, 2008, from lobbyists:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=K02

Top recipients, 2008, from securities and investing:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F07

Top recipients, 2008, from mortgage banking:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F4600

Top recipients, 2008, from finance/credit companies:
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.asp?cycle=2008&ind=F06

The short answer? Hillary has received more money in every one of those industries than Barack. In some cases (like lobbyists), more than 8x.

Hypocritical indeed.

]]> By: Eric Jaffa http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372223 Eric Jaffa Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:08:33 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/03/28/the-art-of-hypocrisy/#comment-372223 The campaign contribution video is bogus. Barack Obama didn't get donations from any of those corporations. He got hard-money donations from employees of those corporations. Employees should donate to Barack Obama. The campaign contribution video is bogus.

Barack Obama didn’t get donations from any of those corporations.

He got hard-money donations from employees of those corporations.

Employees should donate to Barack Obama.

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