Comments on: The press becomes the press-sphere http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/ by Jeff Jarvis Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:10:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: » BuzzMachine " Blog Archive " The press becomes the press-sphere CMG Digital Group http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-380648 » BuzzMachine " Blog Archive " The press becomes the press-sphere CMG Digital Group Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:11:53 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-380648 [...] BuzzMachine " Blog Archive " The press becomes the press-sphere   [...] [...] BuzzMachine " Blog Archive " The press becomes the press-sphere   [...]

]]> By: Twitter on the front page of Liberation today « Holy Chic’s Weblog http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-380267 Twitter on the front page of Liberation today « Holy Chic’s Weblog Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:37:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-380267 [...] of demagogy.   - French media sociologist, Dominique Wolton claims that one new media device ( Jeff Jarvis would call it: “new ecosystem of news and media”) is not enough to altered social, [...] [...] of demagogy.   - French media sociologist, Dominique Wolton claims that one new media device ( Jeff Jarvis would call it: “new ecosystem of news and media”) is not enough to altered social, [...]

]]> By: The Way Things Were and New News « If not, toss it. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-377458 The Way Things Were and New News « If not, toss it. Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:37:30 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-377458 [...] Way Things Were and New News This is cool. The way stories are disseminated and digested has changed. I never thought of it this way, but once [...] [...] Way Things Were and New News This is cool. The way stories are disseminated and digested has changed. I never thought of it this way, but once [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The ethic of the link layer on news http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-376400 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The ethic of the link layer on news Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:39:11 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-376400 [...] from discussions). It’s part of the new architecture of news that I wrote and doodled about here. Upendra Shardanand, the founder of Daylife (where I am a partner), wrote about it here, arguing [...] [...] from discussions). It’s part of the new architecture of news that I wrote and doodled about here. Upendra Shardanand, the founder of Daylife (where I am a partner), wrote about it here, arguing [...]

]]> By: LSDI : I media online nell’ era della distruzione creativa http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-375207 LSDI : I media online nell’ era della distruzione creativa Sun, 18 May 2008 06:40:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-375207 [...] dei commenti, che crea un processo di correzione e di arricchimento e ha fatto dire recentemente a Jeff Jarvis che “su carta, il processo crea il prodotto; online, il processo  stesso è il [...] [...] dei commenti, che crea un processo di correzione e di arricchimento e ha fatto dire recentemente a Jeff Jarvis che “su carta, il processo crea il prodotto; online, il processo  stesso è il [...]

]]> By: Build the Echo » Blog Archive » links for 2008-05-17 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-375186 Build the Echo » Blog Archive » links for 2008-05-17 Sat, 17 May 2008 10:30:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-375186 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The press becomes the press-sphere “There’s a fundamentally new structure to media and there are many different ways to look at it. And until we realize that, I don’t think we’ll begin to create successful new models for news.” (tags: csm beyondbroadcast media_maps) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The press becomes the press-sphere “There’s a fundamentally new structure to media and there are many different ways to look at it. And until we realize that, I don’t think we’ll begin to create successful new models for news.” (tags: csm beyondbroadcast media_maps) [...]

]]> By: MediaBlog » Wat is nieuws? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374998 MediaBlog » Wat is nieuws? Mon, 12 May 2008 21:19:57 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374998 [...] Amerikaanse journalistiek-hoogleraar en columnist/blogger Jeff Jarvis heeft in een aantal tekeningetjes laten zien hoe het oude, statistische model van de pers langzaam maar zeker wordt vervangen door een [...] [...] Amerikaanse journalistiek-hoogleraar en columnist/blogger Jeff Jarvis heeft in een aantal tekeningetjes laten zien hoe het oude, statistische model van de pers langzaam maar zeker wordt vervangen door een [...]

]]> By: L’avenir des médias en ligne en 6 questions « internet et opinion - web 2.0, communication, relations publiques, influence, médias, blogs, etc. http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374764 L’avenir des médias en ligne en 6 questions « internet et opinion - web 2.0, communication, relations publiques, influence, médias, blogs, etc. Fri, 09 May 2008 14:22:48 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374764 [...] d’être le monopole du web) ; l’intégration des commentaires, qui faisait dire à Jeff Jarvis récemment que “sur papier, le process crée le produit ; en ligne, le process est le produit” [...] [...] d’être le monopole du web) ; l’intégration des commentaires, qui faisait dire à Jeff Jarvis récemment que “sur papier, le process crée le produit ; en ligne, le process est le produit” [...]

]]> By: Przyszłość prasy i dziennikarstwa http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374608 Przyszłość prasy i dziennikarstwa Tue, 06 May 2008 19:54:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374608 [...] - pokazuje, że rośnie rola nowych mediów i nowych form artykulacji. Ciekawą analizę proponuje Jeff Jarvis w BuzzMachine, pokazując że prasa w naturalny sposób traci centralną pozycję jako pośrednik między [...] [...] - pokazuje, że rośnie rola nowych mediów i nowych form artykulacji. Ciekawą analizę proponuje Jeff Jarvis w BuzzMachine, pokazując że prasa w naturalny sposób traci centralną pozycję jako pośrednik między [...]

]]> By: A few reasons I don’t do print news (or book clubs) « The Rally Flag http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374137 A few reasons I don’t do print news (or book clubs) « The Rally Flag Thu, 01 May 2008 04:37:20 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374137 [...] nature of the Web that has changed our habits? People constantly speak of the media shift from one-to-many to many-to-many. We don’t wait on the news anymore. There isn’t much need for categorizing and [...] [...] nature of the Web that has changed our habits? People constantly speak of the media shift from one-to-many to many-to-many. We don’t wait on the news anymore. There isn’t much need for categorizing and [...]

]]> By: Redaktionsblog: www.berliner-journalisten.com » Blog Archiv » Brauchen Bürgerjournalisten Regeln? http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374008 Redaktionsblog: www.berliner-journalisten.com » Blog Archiv » Brauchen Bürgerjournalisten Regeln? Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:53:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-374008 [...] is a crucial element in a new architecture of news: when witnesses share what they see publicly we need to figure out how to integrate that into our [...] [...] is a crucial element in a new architecture of news: when witnesses share what they see publicly we need to figure out how to integrate that into our [...]

]]> By: Mark Deuze http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373989 Mark Deuze Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:15:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373989 Jeff, for what its worth: your models (and earlier ones <a href="http://onlinejournalismblog.com/2007/09/17/a-model-for-the-21st-century-newsroom-pt1-the-news-diamond/" rel="nofollow">by Paul Bradshaw in the UK</a>) are similar as one I suggested <a href="http://www.ejournalism.au.com/ejournalist/deuze.pdf" rel="nofollow">in 2001 in a piece for eJournalist</a> in Australia (and obviously your work and Paul's is much better informed and sophisticated). There I suggested letting go of the single, press-driven inverted pyramid as the rolemodel for journalistic storytelling, but instead embrace an octagon as a storytelling model: "an octagon, can be seen as a collection of pyramids (top starting from the center), each representing a different but interconnected in non-linear style (cf. without a predetermined point of entry) part of the newsstory. The shared top of these eight pyramids – each embedded with different kinds of content such as audio, video, infographics, still images, text, interactive tools, archives and so on - could be seen as the ‘traditional’ newslead. In a further step towards a multimedia news philosophy one may consider this shape as an octavo, meaning a folded three-layered (cf. spoken, written and image language together forming a single text) page which can be unfolded into the mentioned eight pyramids of content." Jeff, for what its worth: your models (and earlier ones by Paul Bradshaw in the UK) are similar as one I suggested in 2001 in a piece for eJournalist in Australia (and obviously your work and Paul’s is much better informed and sophisticated). There I suggested letting go of the single, press-driven inverted pyramid as the rolemodel for journalistic storytelling, but instead embrace an octagon as a storytelling model:

“an octagon, can be seen as a collection of pyramids (top starting from the
center), each representing a different but interconnected in non-linear style (cf. without
a predetermined point of entry) part of the newsstory. The shared top of these eight
pyramids – each embedded with different kinds of content such as audio, video,
infographics, still images, text, interactive tools, archives and so on - could be seen as
the ‘traditional’ newslead. In a further step towards a multimedia news philosophy one
may consider this shape as an octavo, meaning a folded three-layered (cf. spoken,
written and image language together forming a single text) page which can be unfolded
into the mentioned eight pyramids of content.”

]]> By: 阅读和评论：联想的英文企业博客 | 新 营 销 观 察 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373934 阅读和评论：联想的英文企业博客 | 新 营 销 观 察 Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:51:51 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373934 [...] 阅读：The press becomes the press-sphere [...] [...] 阅读：The press becomes the press-sphere [...]

]]> By: Jarvis: the press-sphere - a new architecture of news : ThePopVine.com - crowd powered entertainment news http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373932 Jarvis: the press-sphere - a new architecture of news : ThePopVine.com - crowd powered entertainment news Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:44:10 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373932 [...] years have influenced us to re-think the media model of reporting entertainment news. And when he writes about a press-sphere. we think we just might not be so crazy to think we can aggregate and categorize a shit-load of [...] [...] years have influenced us to re-think the media model of reporting entertainment news. And when he writes about a press-sphere. we think we just might not be so crazy to think we can aggregate and categorize a shit-load of [...]

]]> By: LSDI : I giornali non sono più il centro del mondo: la nuova ecosfera dell’ informazione http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373881 LSDI : I giornali non sono più il centro del mondo: la nuova ecosfera dell’ informazione Sat, 26 Apr 2008 12:40:59 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373881 [...] Jeff Jarvis (The press becomes the press-sphere, Buzzmachine.com, traduzione di Maria [...] [...] Jeff Jarvis (The press becomes the press-sphere, Buzzmachine.com, traduzione di Maria [...]

]]> By: Samsa news » Blog Archive » Web et journalisme: le débat organisé par le SNJ http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373871 Samsa news » Blog Archive » Web et journalisme: le débat organisé par le SNJ Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:37:39 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373871 [...] d’information sont aujourd’hui innombrables et accessibles à tous. Voir sur ce point, le billet (en anglais) de Jeff Jarvis que j’ai cité au début de mon [...] [...] d’information sont aujourd’hui innombrables et accessibles à tous. Voir sur ce point, le billet (en anglais) de Jeff Jarvis que j’ai cité au début de mon [...]

]]> By: A midiosfera de Jeff Jarvis « Webmanário http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373823 A midiosfera de Jeff Jarvis « Webmanário Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:34:22 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373823 [...] na tarefa de dar um nome em português para a “press-sphere” teorizada recentemente por Jeff Jarvis, um dos caras que melhor têm analisado as mudanças [...] [...] na tarefa de dar um nome em português para a “press-sphere” teorizada recentemente por Jeff Jarvis, um dos caras que melhor têm analisado as mudanças [...]

]]> By: BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Rules for journalists/bloggers/witnesses? A Guardian debate http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373809 BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Rules for journalists/bloggers/witnesses? A Guardian debate Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:12:28 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373809 [...] is a crucial element in a new architecture of news: when witnesses share what they see publicly we need to figure out how to integrate that into our [...] [...] is a crucial element in a new architecture of news: when witnesses share what they see publicly we need to figure out how to integrate that into our [...]

]]> By: Blog Clippings » eCuaderno http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373798 Blog Clippings » eCuaderno Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:53:15 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373798 [...] BuzzMachine: The press becomes the press-sphere [...] [...] BuzzMachine: The press becomes the press-sphere [...]

]]> By: David http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373755 David Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:58:06 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373755 would be interested to see a similar analysis on "Learning in 2009" would be interested to see a similar analysis on “Learning in 2009″

]]> By: Lucas Online » Se eu entendesse inglês… http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373714 Lucas Online » Se eu entendesse inglês… Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:00:13 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373714 [...] que eu fiz de estudar a língua do Sheakspeare e da Britney Spears, eu poderia ler esse texto aqui. mas como eu não fui, fico só com a curiosidade, e imaginando o que eles querem dizer com esse [...] [...] que eu fiz de estudar a língua do Sheakspeare e da Britney Spears, eu poderia ler esse texto aqui. mas como eu não fui, fico só com a curiosidade, e imaginando o que eles querem dizer com esse [...]

]]> By: A mort la homepage et qui m’aime me suive ! (ou pas) http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373684 A mort la homepage et qui m’aime me suive ! (ou pas) Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:06:24 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373684 [...] ce titre, je vous conseille chaudement la lecture de ce billet de Jeff Jarvis , où il présente le graphique ci-dessous. Interesting, hu [...] [...] ce titre, je vous conseille chaudement la lecture de ce billet de Jeff Jarvis , où il présente le graphique ci-dessous. Interesting, hu [...]

]]> By: Printed Matters » links for 2008-04-19 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373574 Printed Matters » links for 2008-04-19 Sat, 19 Apr 2008 23:47:05 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373574 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The press becomes the press-sphere (tags: journalism future newspaper web press) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » The press becomes the press-sphere (tags: journalism future newspaper web press) [...]

]]> By: Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation & the Web » Blog Archive » News of the Week 4/18/08 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373524 Dan Blank: Publishing, Innovation & the Web » Blog Archive » News of the Week 4/18/08 Fri, 18 Apr 2008 15:12:41 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373524 [...] The Press Becomes the Press-Sphere "One problem I’ve had with much discussion about the future of news lately is that it’s too press-centric." [...] [...] The Press Becomes the Press-Sphere "One problem I’ve had with much discussion about the future of news lately is that it’s too press-centric." [...]

]]> By: Dash Chang http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373509 Dash Chang Fri, 18 Apr 2008 06:51:12 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/14/the-press-becomes-the-press-sphere/#comment-373509 Hi Jeff, We have similar themes. - The process is the news. I call that <a href="http://adecon101.blogspot.com/2008/03/reality-television-comes-to-journalism.html" rel="nofollow">Reality Journalism</a>. (http://adecon101.blogspot.com/2008/03/reality-television-comes-to-journalism.html). - <a href="http://adecon101.blogspot.com/2008/03/feeds-weeds-reads-and-user-needs.html" rel="nofollow">Feeds, weeds, reads is the new circulation model. - You are brave to end the editor role. There may be no room in real time reporting for the edit role. - Topics have been replaced by conversations. Conversations have no beginning and no end. They just get hot and cold. There is a sustainable, new model for online journalism. Individuals get it. But the change is too drastic for entire organizations to agreed and adapt to - particularly those that are driven by bean counters. Great post, though. -Dash Chang The New Economics of Advertising (http://adecon101.blogspot.com)</a> Hi Jeff,

We have similar themes.

- The process is the news. I call that Reality Journalism. (http://adecon101.blogspot.com/2008/03/reality-television-comes-to-journalism.html).

- Feeds, weeds, reads is the new circulation model.

- You are brave to end the editor role. There may be no room in real time reporting for the edit role.

- Topics have been replaced by conversations. Conversations have no beginning and no end. They just get hot and cold.

There is a sustainable, new model for online journalism. Individuals get it. But the change is too drastic for entire organizations to agreed and adapt to - particularly those that are driven by bean counters.

Great post, though.

-Dash Chang
The New Economics of Advertising
(http://adecon101.blogspot.com)

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