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		<title>By: &#8216;Bittergate&#8217;: Is there such a thing as off the record? &#171; Dotcom Journalists</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-390672</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;Bittergate&#8217;: Is there such a thing as off the record? &#171; Dotcom Journalists</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and associated professor at the City University of New York&#8217;s Graduate School of Journalism, suggested that citizens are less beholden than journalists and that that&#8217;s a good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg S</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-384350</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;jesse Says:
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm

journalism has a definition, in my opinion.
Journalism is the telling of truth.
anything else, AnyThing Else/All things else is/are not journalism. Those other things might just simply be called the sharing of opinion or information, but not necessariliy journalism.&quot;&quot;

I agree with this - Journalism by definition must include all sides of any issue to be called journalism. Eveything else is Commentary or editorial.
Just an opinion thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;jesse Says:<br />
April 23rd, 2008 at 5:58 pm</p>
<p>journalism has a definition, in my opinion.<br />
Journalism is the telling of truth.<br />
anything else, AnyThing Else/All things else is/are not journalism. Those other things might just simply be called the sharing of opinion or information, but not necessariliy journalism.&#8221;"</p>
<p>I agree with this &#8211; Journalism by definition must include all sides of any issue to be called journalism. Eveything else is Commentary or editorial.<br />
Just an opinion thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis - What is the effect of "citizen journalism" on news reporting?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis - What is the effect of "citizen journalism" on news reporting?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Evidence that the opinion of Jeff Jarvis is:Positive  &quot;I’d prefer to have citizens telling me what happens. They are less beholden than journalists.&quot;BuzzMachine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: meta is better, take two &#171; the stories of our lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>meta is better, take two &#171; the stories of our lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 16:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a lot more to read on this subject. See Jay Rosen. See Jeff Jarvis contra Michael Tomasky. See also Marc Cooper’s blog post in which he explains how he edited [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nankevans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nankevans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despite my professional role in a public relations function, I must come down on the side of the argument that Clinton&#039;s comments were fair game -- made as they were in a public environment.  But the debate about whether or not there needs to be rules for journalism needs to distinguish between witness journalism - reporting of things seen and heard -- and analysis journalism -- the overlay of scepticism and expertise to determine the significance of events.  The latter is where most citizen journalists lack the training and professionalism of the capital J journalists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despite my professional role in a public relations function, I must come down on the side of the argument that Clinton&#8217;s comments were fair game &#8212; made as they were in a public environment.  But the debate about whether or not there needs to be rules for journalism needs to distinguish between witness journalism &#8211; reporting of things seen and heard &#8212; and analysis journalism &#8212; the overlay of scepticism and expertise to determine the significance of events.  The latter is where most citizen journalists lack the training and professionalism of the capital J journalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Reportagebloggen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reportagebloggen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pÃ¥ sajten Trevlig helg. Barack Obama rÃ¥kade nyligen ut fÃ¶r samma sak som Lars Danielsson. HÃ¤r Ã¤r ett inlÃ¤gg om den hÃ¤ndelsen. HÃ¤r Ã¤r ett annat inlÃ¤gg om vÃ¥dan i att avgÃ¶ra vem som fÃ¥r [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pÃ¥ sajten Trevlig helg. Barack Obama rÃ¥kade nyligen ut fÃ¶r samma sak som Lars Danielsson. HÃ¤r Ã¤r ett inlÃ¤gg om den hÃ¤ndelsen. HÃ¤r Ã¤r ett annat inlÃ¤gg om vÃ¥dan i att avgÃ¶ra vem som fÃ¥r [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Redaktionsblog: www.berliner-journalisten.com &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Brauchen BÃ¼rgerjournalisten Regeln?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Redaktionsblog: www.berliner-journalisten.com &#187; Blog Archiv &#187; Brauchen BÃ¼rgerjournalisten Regeln?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions and argued that blogging, like journalism, needed rules. Cif commentator Jeff Jarvis responded on his blog Buzzmachine that openness, not rules, was demanded in the era of the internet. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Should bloggers obey rules? &#124; Liberate Media - Social Media And PR Consultancy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Should bloggers obey rules? &#124; Liberate Media - Social Media And PR Consultancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] serious ethical questions, suggesting that blogging, like journalism, needs rules. Jeff Jarvis responded on his blog Buzzmachine that openness, not rules, was demanded in the era of the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Regras iguais para bloggers e jornalistas &#124; Same rules for bloggers and journalists? &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Regras iguais para bloggers e jornalistas &#124; Same rules for bloggers and journalists? &#171; O Lago &#124; The Lake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions and argued that blogging, like journalism, needed rules. CiF commentator Jeff Jarvis responded on his blog Buzzmachine that openness, not rules, was demanded in the era of the internet. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Guardian debate: rules for journalists/bloggers/witnesses?</title>
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		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Guardian debate: rules for journalists/bloggers/witnesses?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] questions and argued that blogging, like journalism, needed rules. CiF commentator Jeff Jarvis responded on his blog Buzzmachine that openness, not rules, was demanded in the era of the internet. The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Margaret Schaut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret Schaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The outrageous idea that journalists are neutral at all times and therefore have no need to disclose their campaign contributions is really insulting.  

There had been a clear sea-change in the performance of professional journalists and talking heads since the anthrax &#039;attack&#039; and now they are taking orders from somebody without the people&#039;s interest at heart.

Citizen journalists are the only way remaining for accuracy and genuinely unbiased reporting to occur now.  Whomever threatened the professional news agencies cannot do the same to every potential citizen journalist.  Given the horrible situation in our government and foreign affairs, the dangerous legislation being passed with almost no objection from anyone, this is the worst of all possible times for journalism to be silenced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The outrageous idea that journalists are neutral at all times and therefore have no need to disclose their campaign contributions is really insulting.  </p>
<p>There had been a clear sea-change in the performance of professional journalists and talking heads since the anthrax &#8216;attack&#8217; and now they are taking orders from somebody without the people&#8217;s interest at heart.</p>
<p>Citizen journalists are the only way remaining for accuracy and genuinely unbiased reporting to occur now.  Whomever threatened the professional news agencies cannot do the same to every potential citizen journalist.  Given the horrible situation in our government and foreign affairs, the dangerous legislation being passed with almost no objection from anyone, this is the worst of all possible times for journalism to be silenced.</p>
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		<title>By: jesse</title>
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		<dc:creator>jesse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>journalism has a definition, in my opinion.
Journalism is the telling of truth.
anything else, AnyThing Else/All things else is/are not journalism. Those other things might just simply be called the sharing of opinion or information, but not necessariliy journalism.
journalist needs to align with journalism. Same principles apply.
journalist tells the truth-not doing so, or any sort of distortion and editorialization (as a journalist who loves to editorialize, i relate to this one deeply) should be clear and obvious to the informed receiver.
education and the receiver are more of an issue than journalism and the producer.
we should focus more on the education of the receiver than the production of the producer. this shift in paradigm would resolve many of the issues we, as journalists, and therefore as editors, face.
we also need to look at anyone who produces anything as an editor, not just a citizen or journalist. this is necessary because of cultural lens, which no human is capable (nor should they really be expected or wanted not to have) of not having a cultural lens.
social media, as i&#039;ve stated, is a bridge between the editorial constraints of revenue and the telling of truth.
however, as fun and tidy as all this sounds...let&#039;s not forget the philosophical argument.
what is real? what is reality?
these are important distinctions because truth is a measured by the impression of reality, and reality, like cultural lens, is wide open, on the interpretation spectrum (at an individual level, particularly).
This then brings this discussion into the realm of any sort of collectivity among humans.
as mammals, is it not likely we share a collectivity? don&#039;t many other mammals?
perhaps Darwin has the answer...or Plato or Kant or Rupert Murdock...Ted Turner, etc...
do we need collectivity in order to make order of the chaos that is inherent to interpretation of reality on an individual level, and if so, and this is something we attempt to somehow implement, how do we do so without losing individual freedoms and rights, and of course, that which we cannot afford to lose, individuality and creativity.
...crumbs i&#039;m late.
to be continued.
~jesse
http://twitter.com/jesatiu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>journalism has a definition, in my opinion.<br />
Journalism is the telling of truth.<br />
anything else, AnyThing Else/All things else is/are not journalism. Those other things might just simply be called the sharing of opinion or information, but not necessariliy journalism.<br />
journalist needs to align with journalism. Same principles apply.<br />
journalist tells the truth-not doing so, or any sort of distortion and editorialization (as a journalist who loves to editorialize, i relate to this one deeply) should be clear and obvious to the informed receiver.<br />
education and the receiver are more of an issue than journalism and the producer.<br />
we should focus more on the education of the receiver than the production of the producer. this shift in paradigm would resolve many of the issues we, as journalists, and therefore as editors, face.<br />
we also need to look at anyone who produces anything as an editor, not just a citizen or journalist. this is necessary because of cultural lens, which no human is capable (nor should they really be expected or wanted not to have) of not having a cultural lens.<br />
social media, as i&#8217;ve stated, is a bridge between the editorial constraints of revenue and the telling of truth.<br />
however, as fun and tidy as all this sounds&#8230;let&#8217;s not forget the philosophical argument.<br />
what is real? what is reality?<br />
these are important distinctions because truth is a measured by the impression of reality, and reality, like cultural lens, is wide open, on the interpretation spectrum (at an individual level, particularly).<br />
This then brings this discussion into the realm of any sort of collectivity among humans.<br />
as mammals, is it not likely we share a collectivity? don&#8217;t many other mammals?<br />
perhaps Darwin has the answer&#8230;or Plato or Kant or Rupert Murdock&#8230;Ted Turner, etc&#8230;<br />
do we need collectivity in order to make order of the chaos that is inherent to interpretation of reality on an individual level, and if so, and this is something we attempt to somehow implement, how do we do so without losing individual freedoms and rights, and of course, that which we cannot afford to lose, individuality and creativity.<br />
&#8230;crumbs i&#8217;m late.<br />
to be continued.<br />
~jesse<br />
<a href="http://twitter.com/jesatiu" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/jesatiu</a></p>
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		<title>By: Colin Kerr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin Kerr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a good blog from EuroTimes journalist Howard Larkin at http://myeurotimes.blogspot.com/ which touches on some of these subjects.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a good blog from EuroTimes journalist Howard Larkin at <a href="http://myeurotimes.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://myeurotimes.blogspot.com/</a> which touches on some of these subjects.</p>
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		<title>By: LB's Rambles</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB's Rambles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;In Praise of Openness...&lt;/strong&gt;

Another round in the never-ending argument over who is, and who is not, and who should or should not be, a journalist, and how to report responsibly. If you are a witness, are you a journalist? A reporter? A citizen?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>In Praise of Openness&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Another round in the never-ending argument over who is, and who is not, and who should or should not be, a journalist, and how to report responsibly. If you are a witness, are you a journalist? A reporter? A citizen?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Les Blatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les Blatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The best rule from all sides: openness.&quot;

Hear hear.

Transparency is, or should be, the rule, whether one is talking about &quot;professional&quot; journalism or &quot;citizen&quot; journalism. 

In a way, that should be easier for print media, if only because - despite the constant claims of &quot;objectivity&quot; - so many publications make their biases and beliefs quite clear. The New York Times and the Washington Times may represent different ends of the political spectrum, but it is pretty clear to me as a reader which is which, and I tend to read their stories through those presumed prisms. 

The same is often true of blogs. Certainly Jeff has his own perspective on issues regarding communications, and he makes them very clear to the reader. There is a difference between Daily Kos and Hugh Hewitt, and it would take an awfully dim-witted reader to be unable to uncover their points of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The best rule from all sides: openness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hear hear.</p>
<p>Transparency is, or should be, the rule, whether one is talking about &#8220;professional&#8221; journalism or &#8220;citizen&#8221; journalism. </p>
<p>In a way, that should be easier for print media, if only because &#8211; despite the constant claims of &#8220;objectivity&#8221; &#8211; so many publications make their biases and beliefs quite clear. The New York Times and the Washington Times may represent different ends of the political spectrum, but it is pretty clear to me as a reader which is which, and I tend to read their stories through those presumed prisms. </p>
<p>The same is often true of blogs. Certainly Jeff has his own perspective on issues regarding communications, and he makes them very clear to the reader. There is a difference between Daily Kos and Hugh Hewitt, and it would take an awfully dim-witted reader to be unable to uncover their points of view.</p>
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		<title>By: On The Turning Away &#187; Post-debate Bitterness?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373532</link>
		<dc:creator>On The Turning Away &#187; Post-debate Bitterness?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the blogger who broke the news, calling for &#8220;new rules&#8221;. As uberblogger Jeff Jarvis put it, &#8220;[n]ews is what happens and what people witness and what they can now share, with or [...]</description>
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		<title>By: meta is better, take two &#8212; infotainment rules</title>
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		<dc:creator>meta is better, take two &#8212; infotainment rules</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 14:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a lot more to read on this subject. See Jay Rosen. See Jeff Jarvis contra Michael Tomasky. See also Marc Cooper&#8217;s blog post in which he explains how he edited [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-18</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-18</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...]  Journalism as a control point (BuzzMachine) Thatâ€™s the new rule of the press-sphere: nobody rules.  (tags: journalisme) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-04-18</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-04-18</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...]  Journalism as a control point (BuzzMachine) Thatâ€™s the new rule of the press-sphere: nobody rules.  (tags: journalisme) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373503</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll post what my political contributions were when the power journalist couples in DC start posting who they had dinner with every night, who belongs to the same tennis club, who they&#039;re covering for because they&#039;re a good source, and so on.  Journalists worrying about citizens&#039; ethical conundrums are like mobsters worrying about mortgage lenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll post what my political contributions were when the power journalist couples in DC start posting who they had dinner with every night, who belongs to the same tennis club, who they&#8217;re covering for because they&#8217;re a good source, and so on.  Journalists worrying about citizens&#8217; ethical conundrums are like mobsters worrying about mortgage lenders.</p>
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		<title>By: Anatole</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373500</link>
		<dc:creator>Anatole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Identity of a witness is not important, while that of a journalist is of primary importance. If we start asking who this person was, what her convictions and political preferences are, it is an indication of a journalistic quality of her post.

Freedom of speech does not excuse gossip, plagiarism or perjury. And it does not excuse intentional or even unintentional (which I find highly unlikely) misinterpretation or putting out of context. Freedom of speech is about expressing oneâ€™s own opinions and not about picking random snippets of somebody elseâ€™s conversation. 

Of course, this is about openness. These new grass-root journalists are outside traditional controlling rules, just the way Internet is outside the controlled territory of identities, morals or governments. In this situation of informational existentialism Iâ€™d be very careful not to lose my job as a â€˜gotchaâ€™ style journalist â€“ there is clearly growing competition out there. 

Time to crank up some quality content!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Identity of a witness is not important, while that of a journalist is of primary importance. If we start asking who this person was, what her convictions and political preferences are, it is an indication of a journalistic quality of her post.</p>
<p>Freedom of speech does not excuse gossip, plagiarism or perjury. And it does not excuse intentional or even unintentional (which I find highly unlikely) misinterpretation or putting out of context. Freedom of speech is about expressing oneâ€™s own opinions and not about picking random snippets of somebody elseâ€™s conversation. </p>
<p>Of course, this is about openness. These new grass-root journalists are outside traditional controlling rules, just the way Internet is outside the controlled territory of identities, morals or governments. In this situation of informational existentialism Iâ€™d be very careful not to lose my job as a â€˜gotchaâ€™ style journalist â€“ there is clearly growing competition out there. </p>
<p>Time to crank up some quality content!</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Love</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373494</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The myth of the objective journalist seems to be pervasive amongst the traditional media.  Most news consumers automatically filter news into idealogical buckets and are only concerned about the information content.  The net bloggers understand this and pump content 24/7 with very little concern in shaping a story or sanitizing the facts for objectivity.  The net blogger leaves it to the news consumer to determine the merit and value of the information.  

Traditional media providers do not seem capable of adjusting to their loss of control over the shaping of the information that is finally presented to the public.  The amount of whining over the ABC debate is fascinating as the old guard in the traditional media castigate ABC for providing the people what they want.   News consumers are smart enough to do their own editing and summarizing, they are the new gate keepers of &quot;what is relevant&quot; and that is a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The myth of the objective journalist seems to be pervasive amongst the traditional media.  Most news consumers automatically filter news into idealogical buckets and are only concerned about the information content.  The net bloggers understand this and pump content 24/7 with very little concern in shaping a story or sanitizing the facts for objectivity.  The net blogger leaves it to the news consumer to determine the merit and value of the information.  </p>
<p>Traditional media providers do not seem capable of adjusting to their loss of control over the shaping of the information that is finally presented to the public.  The amount of whining over the ABC debate is fascinating as the old guard in the traditional media castigate ABC for providing the people what they want.   News consumers are smart enough to do their own editing and summarizing, they are the new gate keepers of &#8220;what is relevant&#8221; and that is a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Good online journalism-related reads for today &#124; stevemullis[dot]net</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373493</link>
		<dc:creator>Good online journalism-related reads for today &#124; stevemullis[dot]net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis commenting on&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michael Katcher</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373486</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Katcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are people doubting the [i]truth[/i] of what this citizen reported? Now maybe if the citizen made a blog post saying &#039;Rumor has it Senator Clinton eats babies&#039;, then maybe it&#039;d be useful to say &#039;and by the way I&#039;m pulling for Obama&#039;. But this is a factual account. I think that&#039;s why Jeff uses the term witness. 

The divide shouldn&#039;t be citizen/journalist since the lines are blurry and we&#039;ve obviously seen many high-profile instances of journalists fudging the facts (and being caught by these biased-citizens). The divide should be between &#039;fact&#039; and &#039;opinion&#039;. A &#039;fact&#039; can certainly be a lie, but it cannot be biased. An &#039;opinion&#039; is of course biased, which begs the question of what purpose disclosing bias would serve. If you cannot tell the bias of an opinion then it&#039;s probably not a very coherent opinion to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people doubting the [i]truth[/i] of what this citizen reported? Now maybe if the citizen made a blog post saying &#8216;Rumor has it Senator Clinton eats babies&#8217;, then maybe it&#8217;d be useful to say &#8216;and by the way I&#8217;m pulling for Obama&#8217;. But this is a factual account. I think that&#8217;s why Jeff uses the term witness. </p>
<p>The divide shouldn&#8217;t be citizen/journalist since the lines are blurry and we&#8217;ve obviously seen many high-profile instances of journalists fudging the facts (and being caught by these biased-citizens). The divide should be between &#8216;fact&#8217; and &#8216;opinion&#8217;. A &#8216;fact&#8217; can certainly be a lie, but it cannot be biased. An &#8216;opinion&#8217; is of course biased, which begs the question of what purpose disclosing bias would serve. If you cannot tell the bias of an opinion then it&#8217;s probably not a very coherent opinion to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s a journalist, who&#8217;s not, and why it doesn&#8217;t really matter anyway</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/04/17/journalism-as-a-control-point/#comment-373485</link>
		<dc:creator>Completetosh.com, by Neil McIntosh &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Who&#8217;s a journalist, who&#8217;s not, and why it doesn&#8217;t really matter anyway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 18:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was guaranteed to raise the ire of another Guardianista, Jeff Jarvis, who blasted back: &#8220;But what happens when you take away the label journalist and just call the person a [...]</description>
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