Comments on: The decade delta http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:15:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: José Luis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374430 José Luis Mon, 05 May 2008 01:29:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374430 While i'm related to the banking/finance industries, i've come to think that this general "irrelevant", "outdated business model", "poor content" and general "lack of vision" is a problem that affects *NOT* only the music industry (or news papers or banking). I don't think is too far fetched to think that this is a general issue that every "pre-early XX century" organization is facing. The same problem can be said of most political parties around the world (i live in Argentina) and also, the same can be said about most religious organizations. While i’m related to the banking/finance industries, i’ve come to think that this general “irrelevant”, “outdated business model”, “poor content” and general “lack of vision” is a problem that affects *NOT* only the music industry (or news papers or banking).

I don’t think is too far fetched to think that this is a general issue that every “pre-early XX century” organization is facing.

The same problem can be said of most political parties around the world (i live in Argentina) and also, the same can be said about most religious organizations.

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374318 Shawn Levasseur Sat, 03 May 2008 15:54:56 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374318 No one has "cracked the code?" I take it 4 billion sold doesn't qualify for that status? What level does? I think Apple has been successful in digital downloads and will continue to build on that. No one has “cracked the code?”

I take it 4 billion sold doesn’t qualify for that status? What level does?

I think Apple has been successful in digital downloads and will continue to build on that.

]]> By: South Orange Guy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374294 South Orange Guy Sat, 03 May 2008 04:24:44 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374294 just to clarify a bit....if you assume that over the long term, markets are efficient, it is quite telling that NEITHER music incumbents NOR NEW ENTRANTS have cracked the code of digital music.....yet just to clarify a bit….if you assume that over the long term, markets are efficient, it is quite telling that NEITHER music incumbents NOR NEW ENTRANTS have cracked the code of digital music…..yet

]]> By: South Orange Guy http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374292 South Orange Guy Sat, 03 May 2008 03:59:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374292 I think "idiots" may be a bit strong. I actually think that given that it's been so long, and NO ONE has figured out a way to build a billion $+ business off of digital music (iTunes is a consumer electronics ecosystem), shows how pure play music content businesses are in real trouble. The business of investing in talent and marketing/distributing output is increasingly challenged. Increasingly this business seems to be about performance (live, and royalties paid to PRO's by radio and TV co's) and publishing, less about selling packaged goods (cd's or units of music). I think “idiots” may be a bit strong. I actually think that given that it’s been so long, and NO ONE has figured out a way to build a billion $+ business off of digital music (iTunes is a consumer electronics ecosystem), shows how pure play music content businesses are in real trouble.

The business of investing in talent and marketing/distributing output is increasingly challenged. Increasingly this business seems to be about performance (live, and royalties paid to PRO’s by radio and TV co’s) and publishing, less about selling packaged goods (cd’s or units of music).

]]> By: Shawn Levasseur http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374291 Shawn Levasseur Sat, 03 May 2008 02:46:23 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374291 I'm not sure I'm following how you are characterizing the iTunes Music Store's relationship with the music industry. It sounds like you're trying to say that iTunes was a threat to the music industry. If so, you'd be dead wrong. iTunes is one of the saviors of the business. It created a solid business model to compete against free downloads and minimizing the impact of DRM on the average honest users. iTunes has become such a dominant figure in the music biz, that the industry has felt it necessary to prop up a competitor to iTunes. Specifically the Amazon mp3 service which has higher quality downloads at a lower price with no DRM! The music business is being saved, but only through the actions of outsiders; Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs, specifically. Now if only the RIAA lawyer-goons can be reigned in... I’m not sure I’m following how you are characterizing the iTunes Music Store’s relationship with the music industry. It sounds like you’re trying to say that iTunes was a threat to the music industry.

If so, you’d be dead wrong. iTunes is one of the saviors of the business. It created a solid business model to compete against free downloads and minimizing the impact of DRM on the average honest users.

iTunes has become such a dominant figure in the music biz, that the industry has felt it necessary to prop up a competitor to iTunes. Specifically the Amazon mp3 service which has higher quality downloads at a lower price with no DRM!

The music business is being saved, but only through the actions of outsiders; Jeff Bezos and Steve Jobs, specifically.

Now if only the RIAA lawyer-goons can be reigned in…

]]> By: pdh http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374284 pdh Fri, 02 May 2008 23:00:17 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374284 "There’s no better example of an old-school, backwards thinking, self defeating mentality than the music business" The corporate media business (newspapers and television broadcasters) have given them a good run, though. “There’s no better example of an old-school, backwards thinking, self defeating mentality than the music business”

The corporate media business (newspapers and television broadcasters) have given them a good run, though.

]]> By: adam http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374280 adam Fri, 02 May 2008 21:59:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374280 here, here. There's no better example of an old-school, backwards thinking, self defeating mentality than the music business. How many opportunities have they had to innovate, to experiment, to attempt to do ANYTHING. Instead, they've relied completely on throwing around lawsuits - often with frightening carelessness - to preserve an outdated model. But, my question is... what will be the tipping point? What will finally kill the old music media business or force them to make a revolutionary change? is the legal system the problem by allowing this all to take place like this? I don't know the answers or the solution, but man, there's sure a lot of need for smart people to think differently and be allowed to do it... here, here. There’s no better example of an old-school, backwards thinking, self defeating mentality than the music business. How many opportunities have they had to innovate, to experiment, to attempt to do ANYTHING. Instead, they’ve relied completely on throwing around lawsuits - often with frightening carelessness - to preserve an outdated model.

But, my question is… what will be the tipping point? What will finally kill the old music media business or force them to make a revolutionary change? is the legal system the problem by allowing this all to take place like this? I don’t know the answers or the solution, but man, there’s sure a lot of need for smart people to think differently and be allowed to do it…

]]> By: Jeff Jarvis http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374275 Jeff Jarvis Fri, 02 May 2008 20:08:19 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374275 oops. yes, hardly synonymous! thanks! oops. yes, hardly synonymous! thanks!

]]> By: Eric Jaffa http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374274 Eric Jaffa Fri, 02 May 2008 20:02:27 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374274 I guess he means the "world wide web" is about 15 years old, rather than the internet. I guess he means the “world wide web” is about 15 years old, rather than the internet.

]]> By: Roger C. Hoover http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374273 Roger C. Hoover Fri, 02 May 2008 19:54:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/02/the-decade-delta/#comment-374273 The internet turned 15 yesterday? Not even close... The internet turned 15 yesterday? Not even close…

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