Comments on: Newspapers: a minus-sum game http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/ by Jeff Jarvis Fri, 10 Feb 2012 12:21:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Cloud 9 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-447380 Cloud 9 Wed, 06 Apr 2011 18:40:40 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-447380 I don't miss newspapers at all! I even delivered them at one time in the past. They were a huge waste of paper. I agree that its the web that is putting newspapers out of business and rightly so. I don’t miss newspapers at all! I even delivered them at one time in the past. They were a huge waste of paper. I agree that its the web that is putting newspapers out of business and rightly so.

]]> By: RIP Seattle PI | The Blog According to Buzz Bishop http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-391860 RIP Seattle PI | The Blog According to Buzz Bishop Tue, 17 Mar 2009 05:50:21 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-391860 [...] It’s the web that’s squeezing papers, just have a read of Jeff Jarvis‘ column on a weekly basis. He’s constantly ringing the death bell for large print operations. The public is online, the new means of gathering and sharing news is online, the medium is more efficient and cheaper to run, the old business model is shot. [source] Much of the advertising that is still in newspapers will vaporize. Much of it already has vaporized. Papers in top markets are down tens upon tens of millions of dollars each in classified revenue that has disappeared. Those former advertisers are using free or near-free substitudes to bring in and serve customers: craigslist, real estate agents’ own sites, car dealers’ own sites, and other new competitors. [source] [...] [...] It’s the web that’s squeezing papers, just have a read of Jeff Jarvis‘ column on a weekly basis. He’s constantly ringing the death bell for large print operations. The public is online, the new means of gathering and sharing news is online, the medium is more efficient and cheaper to run, the old business model is shot. [source] Much of the advertising that is still in newspapers will vaporize. Much of it already has vaporized. Papers in top markets are down tens upon tens of millions of dollars each in classified revenue that has disappeared. Those former advertisers are using free or near-free substitudes to bring in and serve customers: craigslist, real estate agents’ own sites, car dealers’ own sites, and other new competitors. [source] [...]

]]> By: The Modern Journalist » Blog Archive » The Ad Problem: Why Smart Media Companies Are Fine http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-375973 The Modern Journalist » Blog Archive » The Ad Problem: Why Smart Media Companies Are Fine Fri, 30 May 2008 00:32:04 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-375973 [...] Newspapers: a minus-sum game [via Zemanta] [...] [...] Newspapers: a minus-sum game [via Zemanta] [...]

]]> By: The Blog According to Buzz » Blog Archive » Newspapers Should Know Better http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374662 The Blog According to Buzz » Blog Archive » Newspapers Should Know Better Thu, 08 May 2008 00:56:16 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374662 [...] It’s the web that’s squeezing papers, just have a read of Jeff Jarvis‘ column on a weekly basis. He’s constantly ringing the death bell for large print operations. The public is online, the new means of gathering and sharing news is online, the medium is more efficient and cheaper to run, the old business model is shot. [source] Much of the advertising that is still in newspapers will vaporize. Much of it already has vaporized. Papers in top markets are down tens upon tens of millions of dollars each in classified revenue that has disappeared. Those former advertisers are using free or near-free substitudes to bring in and serve customers: craigslist, real estate agents’ own sites, car dealers’ own sites, and other new competitors. [source] [...] [...] It’s the web that’s squeezing papers, just have a read of Jeff Jarvis‘ column on a weekly basis. He’s constantly ringing the death bell for large print operations. The public is online, the new means of gathering and sharing news is online, the medium is more efficient and cheaper to run, the old business model is shot. [source] Much of the advertising that is still in newspapers will vaporize. Much of it already has vaporized. Papers in top markets are down tens upon tens of millions of dollars each in classified revenue that has disappeared. Those former advertisers are using free or near-free substitudes to bring in and serve customers: craigslist, real estate agents’ own sites, car dealers’ own sites, and other new competitors. [source] [...]

]]> By: Sinais « http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374574 Sinais « Tue, 06 May 2008 10:47:50 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374574 [...] “Newspapers - a minus-sum game“, BuzzMachine [...] [...] “Newspapers – a minus-sum game“, BuzzMachine [...]

]]> By: BRad King http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374546 BRad King Tue, 06 May 2008 03:40:00 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374546 Jeff: We talked briefly after the SXSW Interactive conference you attended that I moderated (the one with Gary V.), and I told you there were plenty of ways that news sites can make money these days. If you think in terms of banners, you're right -- the traditional media is in trouble. But that's like using the template for caring for a horse on the maintenance of a car. It's two different times and place. This is going to sound all pimp-like, and I'm not meaning it to be -- but I've been outlining what a modern news company should do (http://www.themodernjournalist.com/category/newspaper-20/) for a book; but more importantly, we began to implement the back end for this type of work at Technology Review, where I was in charge of building the online news operation. The point is: it's not about thinking outside the box, it's looking at whole new polygons. What does the Web do -- it allows us to form communities, interact, engage, contribute and build upon. The new business model needs to embrace those qualities in a web-centric way. (Mashups, MeetUps, social ARGs, neighborhood press are just a few examples...) Jeff:

We talked briefly after the SXSW Interactive conference you attended that I moderated (the one with Gary V.), and I told you there were plenty of ways that news sites can make money these days.

If you think in terms of banners, you’re right — the traditional media is in trouble. But that’s like using the template for caring for a horse on the maintenance of a car. It’s two different times and place.

This is going to sound all pimp-like, and I’m not meaning it to be — but I’ve been outlining what a modern news company should do (http://www.themodernjournalist.com/category/newspaper-20/) for a book; but more importantly, we began to implement the back end for this type of work at Technology Review, where I was in charge of building the online news operation.

The point is: it’s not about thinking outside the box, it’s looking at whole new polygons. What does the Web do — it allows us to form communities, interact, engage, contribute and build upon. The new business model needs to embrace those qualities in a web-centric way.

(Mashups, MeetUps, social ARGs, neighborhood press are just a few examples…)

]]> By: Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose » Blog Archive » A proposal lacking a consensus http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374458 Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose » Blog Archive » A proposal lacking a consensus Mon, 05 May 2008 07:22:54 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374458 [...] papers: the writers, Jarvis pointed out, quite possibly now outnumber actual readers. Second, in Newspapers: a minus-sum game, he argues that newspapers won’t regain the advertising revenues they’ve lost; and they [...] [...] papers: the writers, Jarvis pointed out, quite possibly now outnumber actual readers. Second, in Newspapers: a minus-sum game, he argues that newspapers won’t regain the advertising revenues they’ve lost; and they [...]

]]> By: peter http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374417 peter Sun, 04 May 2008 22:42:47 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374417 come on Jarvis - it's not all doom and gloom Both the Guardian and The Daily Mail have seen massive surges in revenue from the US market, and are confident of lots more to come. come on Jarvis – it’s not all doom and gloom

Both the Guardian and The Daily Mail have seen massive surges in revenue from the US market, and are confident of lots more to come.

]]> By: Daily Links http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374400 Daily Links Sun, 04 May 2008 18:32:37 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374400 [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Newspapers: a minus-sum game So you see plenty [newspapers][…][advertising] revenue vaporizing. It’s not a zero-sum game. It’s a minus-sum game. (tags: newspapers advertising media) [...] [...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Newspapers: a minus-sum game So you see plenty [newspapers][…][advertising] revenue vaporizing. It’s not a zero-sum game. It’s a minus-sum game. (tags: newspapers advertising media) [...]

]]> By: Mike http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374394 Mike Sun, 04 May 2008 17:22:32 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374394 The lead article in this weeks Economist is also about the decline of (some) US newspapers. http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11294258 What do you think? The lead article in this weeks Economist is also about the decline of (some) US newspapers.

http://www.economist.com/business/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11294258

What do you think?

]]> By: Philippe Bradley http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374355 Philippe Bradley Sun, 04 May 2008 00:36:29 +0000 http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/03/newspapers-a-minus-sum-game/#comment-374355 Is there any truth to the meme floating around that newspaper profits are about double the S&P 500 average? Is there any truth to the meme floating around that newspaper profits are about double the S&P 500 average?

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