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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/08/media-sell-drama-over-facts/#comment-374758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 12:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew:  I agree there are multiple routes to the advertising of press innocence.  He said, she said journalism, the cult of technique in politics, the  parading of polls.   The search for the moment when "character" is revealed can certainly be one.  A strange thing about the advertising-our-innocence bias is that it rarely concerns bias critics because if there's one thing they know it's that the press is guilty of political bias.  

One of the all time great &lt;a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/14/AR2006011400859.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;examples&lt;/a&gt; is Deborah Howell's famous column trying to frame the Jack Ambramoff scandal as a bi-partisan, "he gave money to both" thing.  She was completely dumbfounded that her attempt to grab a little truthtelling cred and innocence points for the Post was met with such fury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew:  I agree there are multiple routes to the advertising of press innocence.  He said, she said journalism, the cult of technique in politics, the  parading of polls.   The search for the moment when &#8220;character&#8221; is revealed can certainly be one.  A strange thing about the advertising-our-innocence bias is that it rarely concerns bias critics because if there&#8217;s one thing they know it&#8217;s that the press is guilty of political bias.  </p>
<p>One of the all time great <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/14/AR2006011400859.html" rel="nofollow">examples</a> is Deborah Howell&#8217;s famous column trying to frame the Jack Ambramoff scandal as a bi-partisan, &#8220;he gave money to both&#8221; thing.  She was completely dumbfounded that her attempt to grab a little truthtelling cred and innocence points for the Post was met with such fury.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon  Kay</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/08/media-sell-drama-over-facts/#comment-374717</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon  Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 04:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The continual need for drama is what annoys me most about old-fashioned media.  Every commercial paper, everywhere in the world, has at least one story every day which has been pushed into looking more interesting than it actually is, much to the detriment of the facts in it.  

When people say newspapers are accurate because of editing, I keep wanting to shove a bunch of clippings of overdramatized stories in their face.

Though, I'm increasingly seeing the same thing in blogs, too.  But at least, in blogs, it's alot easier to find alternative versions, which helps, since different people oversell different stories, and the different telling also tells me alot.

Anatole. those "massive floods" (especially Iraqi bloggers) was and remains the only way of understanding what's happening in Iraq on the ground.  No single paper comes close.  Give me the chaos any day.  And, of course, just like with newspapers, 90% of everything is junk.  Except, since we have more choice, it's easier to find the other 10%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The continual need for drama is what annoys me most about old-fashioned media.  Every commercial paper, everywhere in the world, has at least one story every day which has been pushed into looking more interesting than it actually is, much to the detriment of the facts in it.  </p>
<p>When people say newspapers are accurate because of editing, I keep wanting to shove a bunch of clippings of overdramatized stories in their face.</p>
<p>Though, I&#8217;m increasingly seeing the same thing in blogs, too.  But at least, in blogs, it&#8217;s alot easier to find alternative versions, which helps, since different people oversell different stories, and the different telling also tells me alot.</p>
<p>Anatole. those &#8220;massive floods&#8221; (especially Iraqi bloggers) was and remains the only way of understanding what&#8217;s happening in Iraq on the ground.  No single paper comes close.  Give me the chaos any day.  And, of course, just like with newspapers, 90% of everything is junk.  Except, since we have more choice, it&#8217;s easier to find the other 10%.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Tyndall</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/08/media-sell-drama-over-facts/#comment-374691</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Tyndall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay -- the search for the authentic character of the candidate, only revealed in the scalding heat of the contest -- heat that burns through the veneer of talking points and the pabulum of prepared soundbites -- appears to be just as innocent of ideology. The media's bias in favor of savviness manifests itself as Horse Race Journalism; their bias in favor of ritual human drama manifests itself as Reality Gameshow Journalism. This too is experienced as pleasure by a lot of mainstream journalists.

Of course, nowhere can we be more certain that we are in the presence of ideology than when we assured of its absence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay &#8212; the search for the authentic character of the candidate, only revealed in the scalding heat of the contest &#8212; heat that burns through the veneer of talking points and the pabulum of prepared soundbites &#8212; appears to be just as innocent of ideology. The media&#8217;s bias in favor of savviness manifests itself as Horse Race Journalism; their bias in favor of ritual human drama manifests itself as Reality Gameshow Journalism. This too is experienced as pleasure by a lot of mainstream journalists.</p>
<p>Of course, nowhere can we be more certain that we are in the presence of ideology than when we assured of its absence.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay Rosen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/08/media-sell-drama-over-facts/#comment-374689</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Rosen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 18:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Nor is there media bias in favor of floods. Thereâ€™s media bias in favor of drama.&lt;/i&gt;

This is basically right.  But that bias is modified by another: a bias in favor of advertising the political innocence of the news tellers themselves.  &lt;a href="http://tomdispatch.com/post/174883/" rel="nofollow"&gt;My argument&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Who's-gonna-win is portable, reusable from cycle to cycle, and easily learned by newcomers to the press pack. Journalists believe it brings readers to the page and eyeballs to the screen. It "works" regardless of who the candidates are, or where the nation is in historical time. No expertise is actually needed to operate it. In that sense, it is economical. (And when everyone gets the winner wrong the "surprise" becomes a good story for a few days.) Who's going to win -- and what's their strategy -- plays well on television, because it generates an endless series of puzzles toward which journalists can gesture as they display their savviness, which is the unofficial religion of the mainstream press.

But the biggest advantage of horse-race journalism is that it permits reporters and pundits to "play up their detachment." Focusing on the race advertises the political innocence of the press because "who's gonna win?" is not an ideological question. By asking it you reaffirm that yours is not an ideological profession. This is experienced as pleasure by a lot of mainstream journalists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Nor is there media bias in favor of floods. Thereâ€™s media bias in favor of drama.</i></p>
<p>This is basically right.  But that bias is modified by another: a bias in favor of advertising the political innocence of the news tellers themselves.  <a href="http://tomdispatch.com/post/174883/" rel="nofollow">My argument</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Who&#8217;s-gonna-win is portable, reusable from cycle to cycle, and easily learned by newcomers to the press pack. Journalists believe it brings readers to the page and eyeballs to the screen. It &#8220;works&#8221; regardless of who the candidates are, or where the nation is in historical time. No expertise is actually needed to operate it. In that sense, it is economical. (And when everyone gets the winner wrong the &#8220;surprise&#8221; becomes a good story for a few days.) Who&#8217;s going to win &#8212; and what&#8217;s their strategy &#8212; plays well on television, because it generates an endless series of puzzles toward which journalists can gesture as they display their savviness, which is the unofficial religion of the mainstream press.</p>
<p>But the biggest advantage of horse-race journalism is that it permits reporters and pundits to &#8220;play up their detachment.&#8221; Focusing on the race advertises the political innocence of the press because &#8220;who&#8217;s gonna win?&#8221; is not an ideological question. By asking it you reaffirm that yours is not an ideological profession. This is experienced as pleasure by a lot of mainstream journalists.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Anatole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anatole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 16:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dontâ€™t have to wonder anymore about the sound of a tree falling when nobodyâ€™s around in the forestâ€¦ could probably find 100+ first hand online reports right away. But seriously, we get ready for the nights out and we brush our teeth in the morning â€“ we really should not according to the new transparency-narrative standards. 

I disagree that massive floods of information donâ€™t affect our decision making â€“ we disperse our concentration over minutia and we tend to lose most consideration for a bigger picture, be it ethical concerns, policies vs gaffes in politics or even intellectual effort to analyze the facts ourselves rather than lazily look for some pundit/blogger/whatâ€™s his name who already did it in a complaisant way. Thatâ€™s why we amazingly emerge (after hours of online browsing) somewhat fatigued and ever so subtly brain-washed albeit in good faith of having found scores of similarly thinking (idiots) who had successfully put behind them the simplest of notions that â€œlying is not goodâ€â€¦ or other ethical constraints. How else would you explain why there is buyers to Clinton's Bosnia stories, or the stories of how an â€œincest dad feels about himselfâ€ (apart from psychiatry interns).

Or that Hanna Montana (whoâ€™s that in all honesty?! do we really expect teenagers to read risquÃ© coverage?) hinted at exposing her goodies come her sweet sixteen or something like that. Who cares, a normal person would think. How very interesting and controversial the same person would yield at the end of the day (after hours of browsing that is). Here we see how an esthetical concept (a beautiful photograph) was and quite intentionally twisted beyond repair into a perverse dispute of who gets to goggle at whose kids and in what state. Thanks media!

I just donâ€™t want to pretend that online narrative is good. It useful? maybe it's evil... for sure and it is here to stay. It is a test of our principles and self-discipline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dontâ€™t have to wonder anymore about the sound of a tree falling when nobodyâ€™s around in the forestâ€¦ could probably find 100+ first hand online reports right away. But seriously, we get ready for the nights out and we brush our teeth in the morning â€“ we really should not according to the new transparency-narrative standards. </p>
<p>I disagree that massive floods of information donâ€™t affect our decision making â€“ we disperse our concentration over minutia and we tend to lose most consideration for a bigger picture, be it ethical concerns, policies vs gaffes in politics or even intellectual effort to analyze the facts ourselves rather than lazily look for some pundit/blogger/whatâ€™s his name who already did it in a complaisant way. Thatâ€™s why we amazingly emerge (after hours of online browsing) somewhat fatigued and ever so subtly brain-washed albeit in good faith of having found scores of similarly thinking (idiots) who had successfully put behind them the simplest of notions that â€œlying is not goodâ€â€¦ or other ethical constraints. How else would you explain why there is buyers to Clinton&#8217;s Bosnia stories, or the stories of how an â€œincest dad feels about himselfâ€ (apart from psychiatry interns).</p>
<p>Or that Hanna Montana (whoâ€™s that in all honesty?! do we really expect teenagers to read risquÃ© coverage?) hinted at exposing her goodies come her sweet sixteen or something like that. Who cares, a normal person would think. How very interesting and controversial the same person would yield at the end of the day (after hours of browsing that is). Here we see how an esthetical concept (a beautiful photograph) was and quite intentionally twisted beyond repair into a perverse dispute of who gets to goggle at whose kids and in what state. Thanks media!</p>
<p>I just donâ€™t want to pretend that online narrative is good. It useful? maybe it&#8217;s evil&#8230; for sure and it is here to stay. It is a test of our principles and self-discipline.</p>
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		<title>By: BA Benedict</title>
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		<dc:creator>BA Benedict</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's interesting that you don't think that a multiplicity of perspectives won't get us to the "facts" faster. This "justification from truth" is one of the primary argument for the protections of freedom of speech and of the press. (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084967)

But you may be right. While a consolidated media's (or town square's) convergence upon a "wrong" fact or narrative certainly inhibits alternative views, the chaos of an environment where the opinions of a large populace that has easy and instant dissemination available certainly has its own obstacles for forming any consensus at all, much less the "true" one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting that you don&#8217;t think that a multiplicity of perspectives won&#8217;t get us to the &#8220;facts&#8221; faster. This &#8220;justification from truth&#8221; is one of the primary argument for the protections of freedom of speech and of the press. (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1084967)</p>
<p>But you may be right. While a consolidated media&#8217;s (or town square&#8217;s) convergence upon a &#8220;wrong&#8221; fact or narrative certainly inhibits alternative views, the chaos of an environment where the opinions of a large populace that has easy and instant dissemination available certainly has its own obstacles for forming any consensus at all, much less the &#8220;true&#8221; one.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Nunez</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/05/08/media-sell-drama-over-facts/#comment-374679</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Nunez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 15:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reminded of Chris Matthews' recent admission of the limitations of mainstream media outlets. Without assigning any kind of moral assessment it is clear that media outlets are forced to provide news is ways that are appealing to the public.

The great thing is that developments in social media applications are allowing us to dive deeper into the story behind the story - seems like a perfect counter balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminded of Chris Matthews&#8217; recent admission of the limitations of mainstream media outlets. Without assigning any kind of moral assessment it is clear that media outlets are forced to provide news is ways that are appealing to the public.</p>
<p>The great thing is that developments in social media applications are allowing us to dive deeper into the story behind the story - seems like a perfect counter balance.</p>
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