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By: Links 2008-05-26 - Adam Crowe

Links 2008-05-26 - Adam Crowe — Mon, 26 May 2008 02:34:49 +0000

[...] BuzzMachine — @Facebook @Shark: jump? “The internet doesn’t need more social networks. The internet *is* the social network.” evil strategy microsoft yahoo friendfeed twitter facebook google dataportabilty platform friendconnect opensocial socialgraph socialnetworking [...]

By: Ethan Bauley

Ethan Bauley — Fri, 23 May 2008 15:12:43 +0000

For the book, I would add one more phrase to this [brilliant] insight:

“When the people can talk with, about, and around you [[[and broadcast those thoughts to millions of others that matter to you]]], screwing them is no longer a valid business strategy.”

That may be book jacket material

Thanks for the great work!

By: Data portability, the Potter parable, 21st century demand mechanics, and zombie attacks « The Restless Mind

Wed, 21 May 2008 01:01:21 +0000

[...] been thinking about that quote in relation to the recent noise about data portability and the fuss between Facebook’s closed view in contrast to Google’s [...]

By: things I read yesterday … 05/20/2008 « The Bankwatch

things I read yesterday … 05/20/2008 « The Bankwatch — Tue, 20 May 2008 15:33:00 +0000

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By: Tony

Tony — Tue, 20 May 2008 12:15:08 +0000

Contact relations are MY data just like MY email - I bloody well will do anything I please with it.. Any company not willing to share this point of view is not getting my data (and money). I am sick and tired of companies which see MY data as THEIR property.

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:55:33 +0000

John,
My son reminds me that his facebook is very different from my facebook. As I said above, I think people our age treated it as a faddish toy but the oriiginal intended constituency still treats it as a tool. So I don’t think we should judge by our experience alone.
I agree that Open Social can be a killer. Though I see potential for VRM, I don’t know that it has a real relationship with OS. How do you see that link?

By: John Proffitt

John Proffitt — Tue, 20 May 2008 09:51:40 +0000

Facebook is so dead. At some point. I had fun there for a while, but it’s become just the next MySpace — overcluttered and packed with useless blingy crap. Poke THIS!

The Facebook killer will be a combination of the OpenSocial platform with the proposed VRM (Vendor Relationship Management) system that Doc Searls is pushing. That will put the social system in orbit around the individual, not the company or site or platform.

Google gets this. Umair Haque is explaining it. It’s just a matter of time.

By: neunetz.com » A cold, calculated business rule: Don’t be evil

neunetz.com » A cold, calculated business rule: Don’t be evil — Mon, 19 May 2008 23:51:47 +0000

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By: Sean

Sean — Mon, 19 May 2008 19:40:30 +0000

I think the challenge Facebook is facing is going to by typical of social networks as they reach maturity: what is their competitive advantage?

So far it’s been community. If you can take your community with you where ever you go then what next? Neat little applications you can play with friends? Unfortunately a closed ecosystem like Facebook Apps can never compete with the ecosystem of the web as a whole as AOL found. Twitter, et al. are taking subsets of “social networking” and breaking them out into growing, open systems.

This is Facebook’s mid-life crisis. What do they want to be when they grow up?

P.S. I think it’s off topic that you ask WWGD Jeff. Google has the advantage of an obscenely profitable business to build from. Facebook hasn’t found that, and until they do they will be afraid. Google would be afraid too if they had to rely on their businesses outside of search.

By: Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Mid-May blogging - amidst the heat

Marc’s Voice » Blog Archive » Mid-May blogging - amidst the heat — Mon, 19 May 2008 19:28:54 +0000

[...] I love the blogosphere and am proud to call myself a blogger. Smart ass dudes like Jeff Jarvis. He ties the Facebook-Microsoft-Yahoo rumors into data portability and the ongoing conversation we… Don’t you just love the blogosphere? And what a title! @Facebook @Shark: Jump? Jeff plugs his [...]

By: Digidave

Digidave — Mon, 19 May 2008 18:43:27 +0000

I agree: http://www.digidave.org/adventures_in_freelancing/2008/02/facebook-is-not.html

By: Jeff Jarvis

Jeff Jarvis — Mon, 19 May 2008 17:29:32 +0000

Josh,
Yes, it can still be exactly what it is. But when it grows value for me there — my list of friends and relationships — I want to be able to use that value elsewhere. That makes it stronger.
And they don’t need to befriend their parents, profs, and other old farts like me. That’s it’s genius. As Zuckerberg says, no one ever sees more than 1 percent of Facebook. j

By: josh

josh — Mon, 19 May 2008 16:02:21 +0000

I don’t know why everyone forgets that Facebook was made to be a walled garden: a relatively small, protected, place for college students to network and make fools of themselves in semi-private without the prying eyes of outsiders or search engines to keep track of it all. Now it isn’t quite that anymore, and I’m not sure what its users want it to be, or what its original audience needs it to be.

I’m sure that if there isn’t one already, a new service for kids who don’t want to be on the same networks as their parents, professors, and friendly neighborhood journalists will pop up eventually.

By: PXLated

PXLated — Mon, 19 May 2008 15:08:54 +0000

And then there is the latest from Scoble…Microsoft buys Facebook and creates AOL all over again…
http://scobleizer.com/2008/05/19/why-microsoft-will-buy-facebook-and-keep-it-closed/