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	<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/</link>
	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The ethic of identity</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376858</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The ethic of identity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and in journalism, the ethic of identity is less clear today. Take as illustration the case of this post involving Politico and a bit of sockpuppetry from an employee of the newspaper in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and in journalism, the ethic of identity is less clear today. Take as illustration the case of this post involving Politico and a bit of sockpuppetry from an employee of the newspaper in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376809</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just received a voicemail and an email from Calderone telling me he did not write the comment. I didn't say he did. 

Calderone confirms that this comment did come from someone at Politico. I ask who that is. This seems like a case of sockpuppetry from within the newspaper -- ironic especially given the context of the discussion about Mayhill Fowler and Calderone's allegation of her misrepresentation.

[Note: These last two comments were being written at the same time. Calderone's appeared first but we had not seen each other's comments. -jj]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just received a voicemail and an email from Calderone telling me he did not write the comment. I didn&#8217;t say he did. </p>
<p>Calderone confirms that this comment did come from someone at Politico. I ask who that is. This seems like a case of sockpuppetry from within the newspaper &#8212; ironic especially given the context of the discussion about Mayhill Fowler and Calderone&#8217;s allegation of her misrepresentation.</p>
<p>[Note: These last two comments were being written at the same time. Calderone's appeared first but we had not seen each other's comments. -jj]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Calderone</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376808</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Calderone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, 

We've already spoken on the phone and I disagree with you on the press ethics issues that came up here. That’s fine. I also told you that I thought you were equating my criticism of Fowler's ethics to those who kept African Americans out of the news business. I didn’t think that was fair. Again, you see things another way.

And I did not leave a comment on your site just now. A colleague did on their own without any prompting by me. We just happened to be discussing the ethics issue and they felt obliged to respond. 

Michael Calderone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve already spoken on the phone and I disagree with you on the press ethics issues that came up here. That’s fine. I also told you that I thought you were equating my criticism of Fowler&#8217;s ethics to those who kept African Americans out of the news business. I didn’t think that was fair. Again, you see things another way.</p>
<p>And I did not leave a comment on your site just now. A colleague did on their own without any prompting by me. We just happened to be discussing the ethics issue and they felt obliged to respond. </p>
<p>Michael Calderone</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376807</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, I'm making no such comparison. I am talking about the clubbiness of journalism. 

Second, of course I know the shameful history. I am fully confessing here how I did not know the timing. 

Third, to get into a discussion of Fowler, as I've blogged here and at the Guardian before... Whether or not a witness to news is a journalist will become increasingly irrelevant as all witnesses have the means to share what they see and hear with or without journalists. 

Finally, I note that this comment comes from a domain of Albritton Communications, owner of Politico. Perhaps you are misrepresenting yourself, "Mary."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I&#8217;m making no such comparison. I am talking about the clubbiness of journalism. </p>
<p>Second, of course I know the shameful history. I am fully confessing here how I did not know the timing. </p>
<p>Third, to get into a discussion of Fowler, as I&#8217;ve blogged here and at the Guardian before&#8230; Whether or not a witness to news is a journalist will become increasingly irrelevant as all witnesses have the means to share what they see and hear with or without journalists. </p>
<p>Finally, I note that this comment comes from a domain of Albritton Communications, owner of Politico. Perhaps you are misrepresenting yourself, &#8220;Mary.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, how, as a media "expert" could you not know about this shameful history? I think you owe it to your audience to do some reading. 

That aside, I think your comparison of breaking the color barrier to reporting on the questionable ethics of a huffingtonpost blogger is disgraceful and totally off-the-mark. 

The problem isn't that Mayhill dared to criticize the Vanity Fair article (which had plenty of faults, for sure), it's that she misrepresented herself while doing so. She ambushed her subject-- that's shoddy work and bad for the professional as a whole.

And your comparison of her questionable ethics to the horrific legacy of racism is not only faulty but actually offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, how, as a media &#8220;expert&#8221; could you not know about this shameful history? I think you owe it to your audience to do some reading. </p>
<p>That aside, I think your comparison of breaking the color barrier to reporting on the questionable ethics of a huffingtonpost blogger is disgraceful and totally off-the-mark. </p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t that Mayhill dared to criticize the Vanity Fair article (which had plenty of faults, for sure), it&#8217;s that she misrepresented herself while doing so. She ambushed her subject&#8211; that&#8217;s shoddy work and bad for the professional as a whole.</p>
<p>And your comparison of her questionable ethics to the horrific legacy of racism is not only faulty but actually offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/05/breaking-journalisms-barrier/#comment-376768</link>
		<dc:creator>Deb Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 22:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "Mississippi Daily Disgrace?" As a native southerner I'm always intrigued by the casual ignorance and bigotry displayed toward my region. The assumption is that we backward southern hicks harbor a brand of ugly racism not practiced anywhere else in this glorious nation. And yet incidents of egregious racism are evident in every part of this country, and the smug big cities of the north and the west coast are often the most vile little hotbeds of inhuman treatment for people of color. So why should anyone be surprised that the NYT had no black reporters before 1966? And I betcha there are more African Americans working in southern-based newspapers today than anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Mississippi Daily Disgrace?&#8221; As a native southerner I&#8217;m always intrigued by the casual ignorance and bigotry displayed toward my region. The assumption is that we backward southern hicks harbor a brand of ugly racism not practiced anywhere else in this glorious nation. And yet incidents of egregious racism are evident in every part of this country, and the smug big cities of the north and the west coast are often the most vile little hotbeds of inhuman treatment for people of color. So why should anyone be surprised that the NYT had no black reporters before 1966? And I betcha there are more African Americans working in southern-based newspapers today than anywhere else.</p>
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