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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: SEO Links</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-385598</link>
		<dc:creator>SEO Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't believe the AP will survive.........they are out of touch with the main media</description>
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		<title>By: Where are the long and thought provoking articles? &#124; Glowrich on New Media</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-379652</link>
		<dc:creator>Where are the long and thought provoking articles? &#124; Glowrich on New Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] news outlets. Not really a long article, but several short ones about the same issue. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Michael Arrington at TechCrunch wrote about the same [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wrong and Illegal &#124; Xyleme Learning Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-378255</link>
		<dc:creator>Wrong and Illegal &#124; Xyleme Learning Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 04:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As conversations about current events move online, what the AP seems likely to have done is to just cut themselves out of the link economy. Jeff Jarvis suggests that this could be the end of them. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As conversations about current events move online, what the AP seems likely to have done is to just cut themselves out of the link economy. Jeff Jarvis suggests that this could be the end of them. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The crowdsourced life</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377816</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The crowdsourced life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are in a relationship-based economy. (Which is another way to look at the link economy of media, Associated Press, and why turning friends into enemies is just bad [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are in a relationship-based economy. (Which is another way to look at the link economy of media, Associated Press, and why turning friends into enemies is just bad [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Associated Press fair use battle &#171; Blathnaid Healy&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377808</link>
		<dc:creator>Associated Press fair use battle &#171; Blathnaid Healy&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jeff Jarvis&#8217; take on what the future holds for the AP here  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Lipkin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377732</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Lipkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, thanks -- I'd missed that earlier post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, thanks &#8212; I&#8217;d missed that earlier post.</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; links for 2008-06-20&#160;&#8212;&#160;contentious.com</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377731</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; links for 2008-06-20&#160;&#8212;&#160;contentious.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 16:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Whither the AP &#8220;What would the world look like without the AP? Local papers can get local content from their own networks and national, international, sports, business and other content via links. They can also enter into cooperatives — which is where the AP started&#8221; (tags: blogging copyright journalism news media+evolution news+biz tidbits+fodder) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Whither the AP &#8220;What would the world look like without the AP? Local papers can get local content from their own networks and national, international, sports, business and other content via links. They can also enter into cooperatives — which is where the AP started&#8221; (tags: blogging copyright journalism news media+evolution news+biz tidbits+fodder) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Cox of the Media Bloggers Association on Blog World Expo Radio &#171; The BlogTalkRadio Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377714</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Cox of the Media Bloggers Association on Blog World Expo Radio &#171; The BlogTalkRadio Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all hell broke loose. The Blogosphere is railing against the AP. Jeff Jarvis has been very vocal. Sites like TechCrunch and Little Green Footballs are banning all AP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Evil Pundit</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377713</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barney Lerten claims that professional news organisations have access to facts and resources that amateurs do not. This may well be true.

However, those organisations, from AP to the New York Times, have disgraced themselves repeatedly by publishing deceptive and misleading stories to fit the political agenda of their reporters. Their superior resources are worthless if they simply refuse to tell the truth.

When the old media die, we won't be missing anything. In fact, the public will be better informed, as a major source of misinformation is removed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barney Lerten claims that professional news organisations have access to facts and resources that amateurs do not. This may well be true.</p>
<p>However, those organisations, from AP to the New York Times, have disgraced themselves repeatedly by publishing deceptive and misleading stories to fit the political agenda of their reporters. Their superior resources are worthless if they simply refuse to tell the truth.</p>
<p>When the old media die, we won&#8217;t be missing anything. In fact, the public will be better informed, as a major source of misinformation is removed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam,

I disclosed that in an earlier post in the AP series. I also wrote about it a fair bit when it started, objecting to the idea of codes of behavior (which didn't happen). I threw in wtih the group but have had no involvement; not sure there has been much involvement to be had. 

Here's one thing I haven't yet said: I think an association representing a blogger at that blogger's request is good. But, of course, it's impossible for any association to represent all bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam,</p>
<p>I disclosed that in an earlier post in the AP series. I also wrote about it a fair bit when it started, objecting to the idea of codes of behavior (which didn&#8217;t happen). I threw in wtih the group but have had no involvement; not sure there has been much involvement to be had. </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one thing I haven&#8217;t yet said: I think an association representing a blogger at that blogger&#8217;s request is good. But, of course, it&#8217;s impossible for any association to represent all bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Lipkin</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377687</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Lipkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, a comment in &lt;a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010354.html#275695" rel="nofollow"&gt;this thread&lt;/a&gt; at Making Light on the AP situation links to &lt;a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20061109183931/mediabloggers.org/members/" rel="nofollow"&gt;this archived membership list&lt;/a&gt; which claims you as a founding member of the Media Bloggers Association (the group currently working with the AP). Are you still a member of that group, and can you shed any light on the situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, a comment in <a href="http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/010354.html#275695" rel="nofollow">this thread</a> at Making Light on the AP situation links to <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20061109183931/mediabloggers.org/members/" rel="nofollow">this archived membership list</a> which claims you as a founding member of the Media Bloggers Association (the group currently working with the AP). Are you still a member of that group, and can you shed any light on the situation?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Wyman</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377686</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Wyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The AP has just released a story which quotes 22 words from Michael Arrington's blog at TechCrunch.com  Thus, they have thus just violated their own "rules"... Arrington claims that he's directed his lawyers to send a DMCA take-down notice to the AP...
See:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/19/the-ap-has-violated-my-copyright-and-i-demand-justice

bob wyman</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The AP has just released a story which quotes 22 words from Michael Arrington&#8217;s blog at TechCrunch.com  Thus, they have thus just violated their own &#8220;rules&#8221;&#8230; Arrington claims that he&#8217;s directed his lawyers to send a DMCA take-down notice to the AP&#8230;<br />
See:<br />
<a href="http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/19/the-ap-has-violated-my-copyright-and-i-demand-justice" rel="nofollow">http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/06/19/the-ap-has-violated-my-copyright-and-i-demand-justice</a></p>
<p>bob wyman</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-06-19 &#124; Jonathan Coffman - Convergence Journalism Specialist and New-Media Evangelist</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377684</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-19 &#124; Jonathan Coffman - Convergence Journalism Specialist and New-Media Evangelist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alex Steed (of Make Something Happen)</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377679</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Steed (of Make Something Happen)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 18:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've just moved forward with The Blogger AP/Tea Party. This all is so very, very absurd:

The Rationale
http://tinyurl.com/3f5eqd

The Campaign
http://tinyurl.com/3jcyf

Best,
Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve just moved forward with The Blogger AP/Tea Party. This all is so very, very absurd:</p>
<p>The Rationale<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3f5eqd" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3f5eqd</a></p>
<p>The Campaign<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/3jcyf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3jcyf</a></p>
<p>Best,<br />
Alex</p>
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		<title>By: Join Us Friday June 20th for BlogWorld Radio Our Guest Will Be Bob Cox of the Media Bloggers Association &#124; Blog World Expo Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377674</link>
		<dc:creator>Join Us Friday June 20th for BlogWorld Radio Our Guest Will Be Bob Cox of the Media Bloggers Association &#124; Blog World Expo Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] all hell broke loose. The Blogosphere is railing against the AP. Jeff Jarvis has been very vocal. Sites like TechCrunch and Little Green Footballs are banning all AP [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Weblogg-ed &#187; $12.50 for Five Words</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377670</link>
		<dc:creator>Weblogg-ed &#187; $12.50 for Five Words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] excerpts are a nightmare, and articulated fairly well at BetaNews. Jeff Jarvis sees this as the beginning of the end for the AP, and bloggers everywhere are yelling and screaming and debating the impact. And how this plays out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] excerpts are a nightmare, and articulated fairly well at BetaNews. Jeff Jarvis sees this as the beginning of the end for the AP, and bloggers everywhere are yelling and screaming and debating the impact. And how this plays out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: robster</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377669</link>
		<dc:creator>robster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Walter  Well said. It's rich for all the established Media companies to take we are more than a distribution method, especially when so many of them are courting consumer/Social media reporting. They have created huge value companies based on the fact they tell the truth, the news, they don't. In fact Bloggers who link and quote their sources are much more honest than so many publications/reporters who continually report stories with the line a close source, or a freind says. 

The isn't some passing fad, yes professional honest partisan journalists/publications/media outlets would be preferable but they are few and far between, so get used to it. No one believes your stories anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Walter  Well said. It&#8217;s rich for all the established Media companies to take we are more than a distribution method, especially when so many of them are courting consumer/Social media reporting. They have created huge value companies based on the fact they tell the truth, the news, they don&#8217;t. In fact Bloggers who link and quote their sources are much more honest than so many publications/reporters who continually report stories with the line a close source, or a freind says. </p>
<p>The isn&#8217;t some passing fad, yes professional honest partisan journalists/publications/media outlets would be preferable but they are few and far between, so get used to it. No one believes your stories anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: LB's Rambles</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377662</link>
		<dc:creator>LB's Rambles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;In Fairness to the AP......&lt;/strong&gt;

As a followup to my last item below, this story continues to develop. As such stories will, it has taken on something of a life of its own. In fairness, there are two newer, lengthier posts you ought to read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>In Fairness to the AP&#8230;&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>As a followup to my last item below, this story continues to develop. As such stories will, it has taken on something of a life of its own. In fairness, there are two newer, lengthier posts you ought to read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-06-19 - Fast.Fwd.Innov@tion</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377661</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-19 - Fast.Fwd.Innov@tion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Whither the AP AP members aren&#8217;t pleased and starting to revolt. Have a look at Jeff Jarvis posting about it. (tags: AP fastfwdinnovation Jarvis blogging) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] BuzzMachine » Blog Archive » Whither the AP AP members aren&#8217;t pleased and starting to revolt. Have a look at Jeff Jarvis posting about it. (tags: AP fastfwdinnovation Jarvis blogging) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Das Requiem auf Print at viralmythen</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377658</link>
		<dc:creator>Das Requiem auf Print at viralmythen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] schreibt Jeff Jarvis und das gilt nicht nur f&#252;r Nachrichtenagenturen, sondern eigentlich die gesamte Printwelt. Nur leider lassen sich diese neuen Modelle und neuen Zuk&#252;nfte zumindestens in der Welt der Zeitungsverlage noch nicht erkennen. Die Zeitungen werden zwar auf ihren Onlinepr&#228;senzen immer &#8220;bloggiger&#8220;, binden Bewegtbilder ein, geotaggen ihre Informationen oder beginnen sogar mit dem Twittern. Aber das &#252;berzeugt als langfristiger Zukunftsentwurf noch lange nicht.  addthis_url = 'http%3A%2F%2Fblog.metaroll.de%2F2008%2F06%2F19%2Fdas-requiem-auf-print%2F'; addthis_title = 'Das+Requiem+auf+Print'; addthis_pub = '';    Zur Story auf Rivva [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] schreibt Jeff Jarvis und das gilt nicht nur f&#252;r Nachrichtenagenturen, sondern eigentlich die gesamte Printwelt. Nur leider lassen sich diese neuen Modelle und neuen Zuk&#252;nfte zumindestens in der Welt der Zeitungsverlage noch nicht erkennen. Die Zeitungen werden zwar auf ihren Onlinepr&#228;senzen immer &#8220;bloggiger&#8220;, binden Bewegtbilder ein, geotaggen ihre Informationen oder beginnen sogar mit dem Twittern. Aber das &#252;berzeugt als langfristiger Zukunftsentwurf noch lange nicht.  addthis_url = &#8216;http%3A%2F%2Fblog.metaroll.de%2F2008%2F06%2F19%2Fdas-requiem-auf-print%2F&#8217;; addthis_title = &#8216;Das+Requiem+auf+Print&#8217;; addthis_pub = &#8221;;    Zur Story auf Rivva [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377655</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Barney,

Overstated?  Not really.

Information sharing - anyplace, anytime - has already replaced "official" news.  Note the literal explosion in demand for mobile communications devices.

Here's more grist for the debate.

http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/the_ap_s_real_problem_isn_t_bloggers_it_s_newspapers
The AP's Real Problem Isn't Bloggers: It's Its Own Newspapers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Barney,</p>
<p>Overstated?  Not really.</p>
<p>Information sharing - anyplace, anytime - has already replaced &#8220;official&#8221; news.  Note the literal explosion in demand for mobile communications devices.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s more grist for the debate.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/the_ap_s_real_problem_isn_t_bloggers_it_s_newspapers" rel="nofollow">http://www.alleyinsider.com/2008/6/the_ap_s_real_problem_isn_t_bloggers_it_s_newspapers</a><br />
The AP&#8217;s Real Problem Isn&#8217;t Bloggers: It&#8217;s Its Own Newspapers</p>
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		<title>By: Something Is Rotten In Denmark: The A.P., NYTimes and MBA Love Triangle</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377645</link>
		<dc:creator>Something Is Rotten In Denmark: The A.P., NYTimes and MBA Love Triangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 04:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] detailed investigation into this mess, as well as Mathew Ingram&#8217;s commentary. Jeff Jarvis continues to hold on to this story like a pitt bull (I nominate him to represent us bloggers, he&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: AP and the Media Bloggers Assoc. &#187; mathewingram.com/work &#124;</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377640</link>
		<dc:creator>AP and the Media Bloggers Assoc. &#187; mathewingram.com/work &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the AP itself, in the long run &#8212; as Dorian Benkoil and Jeff Jarvis have argued &#8212; the organization&#8217;s biggest problem is its own member papers and the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the AP itself, in the long run &#8212; as Dorian Benkoil and Jeff Jarvis have argued &#8212; the organization&#8217;s biggest problem is its own member papers and the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Barney Lerten</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377639</link>
		<dc:creator>Barney Lerten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overstated, Walter. News is more than distribution method - it's the time-consuming, staff-intensive production that we're in danger of losing to those who, in essence, write on the back of a digital envelope, on their way to something else.

I think you've gone a bit overboard in the black-or-white element. News is changed profoundly, due to the universal, free/cheap distribution system. But it doesn't mean anyone can do it, at any time, and pass the quality test. It's a discussion I've had with Jeff off and on over the years, and a discussion worth continuing;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overstated, Walter. News is more than distribution method - it&#8217;s the time-consuming, staff-intensive production that we&#8217;re in danger of losing to those who, in essence, write on the back of a digital envelope, on their way to something else.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ve gone a bit overboard in the black-or-white element. News is changed profoundly, due to the universal, free/cheap distribution system. But it doesn&#8217;t mean anyone can do it, at any time, and pass the quality test. It&#8217;s a discussion I&#8217;ve had with Jeff off and on over the years, and a discussion worth continuing;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Walter Abbott</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/18/whither-the-ap/#comment-377635</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Abbott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sooner or later all you journalist types will figure out you are not and never were producers of a product.  "News" isn't a product - it is simply information sharing.  And information sharing is something human animals have done ever since cavemen learned to communicate with one another.

What you all had were distribution systems.  The printing press, the telegraph and radio/television broadcast - are all distribution systems.  And you had monopolistic cartels because of the high capital costs to build those systems.

The world wide web has made them all obsolete.  The AP was merely a crude "internet" of teleprinters hooked together that shared information.

I say "was" because the Associated Press is out of business.  They've just not figured it out yet.  Information sharing among human animals will continue long after the AP is just a faded memory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sooner or later all you journalist types will figure out you are not and never were producers of a product.  &#8220;News&#8221; isn&#8217;t a product - it is simply information sharing.  And information sharing is something human animals have done ever since cavemen learned to communicate with one another.</p>
<p>What you all had were distribution systems.  The printing press, the telegraph and radio/television broadcast - are all distribution systems.  And you had monopolistic cartels because of the high capital costs to build those systems.</p>
<p>The world wide web has made them all obsolete.  The AP was merely a crude &#8220;internet&#8221; of teleprinters hooked together that shared information.</p>
<p>I say &#8220;was&#8221; because the Associated Press is out of business.  They&#8217;ve just not figured it out yet.  Information sharing among human animals will continue long after the AP is just a faded memory.</p>
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