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	<description>by Jeff Jarvis</description>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; National Public What?</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-379315</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; National Public What?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what is it that moves to the web? And how? What&#8217;s that essence of NPR? That&#8217;s what I asked the Guardian. It&#8217;s what every media organization trying to reinvent itself must ask. What are [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what is it that moves to the web? And how? What&#8217;s that essence of NPR? That&#8217;s what I asked the Guardian. It&#8217;s what every media organization trying to reinvent itself must ask. What are [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google as the new pressroom</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378934</link>
		<dc:creator>BuzzMachine &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Google as the new pressroom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one of the key challenges I pose in the book: You must decide what business you&#8217;re in. As I said at the Guardian the next day, AOL thought it was in the content business and that is what led to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one of the key challenges I pose in the book: You must decide what business you&#8217;re in. As I said at the Guardian the next day, AOL thought it was in the content business and that is what led to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Guardian and the Future of Journalism - Bloggerati - Blogs - Brand Republic</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378182</link>
		<dc:creator>Guardian and the Future of Journalism - Bloggerati - Blogs - Brand Republic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: OD on me &#171; Research</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378104</link>
		<dc:creator>OD on me &#171; Research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 13:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/&#160; &#124; &#160;Comments [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/&#038;nbsp" rel="nofollow">http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/&#038;nbsp</a>; | &nbsp;Comments [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Young</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378079</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dig the gift economy. And I agree. But the point, and maybe this is obvious, is just that, if you're in the Guardian's position, you want to think about what positive and negative incentives you need to try to put in place in order to make your community work. There's got to be some downside risk to vouching for jerks or numbskulls, and there's got to be some upside chance of real benefit for pulling great additions into a circle of trust.

That's definitely NOT to say that those incentives can't exist as coins in the realm of a gift economy. But, from the perspective of the Guardian again, a gift economy won't necessarily come to characterize a community they try to build. Or, in other words, if Neil is a great guy and does you a favor, you won't necessarily feel grateful and return with golden links pointing in his direction. The ethic of the link isn't a law of nature. It's a culture that must be nurtured, and the Guardian's got to know that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dig the gift economy. And I agree. But the point, and maybe this is obvious, is just that, if you&#8217;re in the Guardian&#8217;s position, you want to think about what positive and negative incentives you need to try to put in place in order to make your community work. There&#8217;s got to be some downside risk to vouching for jerks or numbskulls, and there&#8217;s got to be some upside chance of real benefit for pulling great additions into a circle of trust.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s definitely NOT to say that those incentives can&#8217;t exist as coins in the realm of a gift economy. But, from the perspective of the Guardian again, a gift economy won&#8217;t necessarily come to characterize a community they try to build. Or, in other words, if Neil is a great guy and does you a favor, you won&#8217;t necessarily feel grateful and return with golden links pointing in his direction. The ethic of the link isn&#8217;t a law of nature. It&#8217;s a culture that must be nurtured, and the Guardian&#8217;s got to know that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378058</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 10:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

Great angle. In an Amway (Ponzi) economy, then Neil would get a cut of what I product. 

But this is a gift economy. I think there are sufficient rewards for Neil without that kind of complex payment structure. Neil does me a favor. I'm grateful to Neil. I send him traffic. Neil feels good. Neil brags about finding good people. The more Neil finds good people, the more quickly the next people he finds are integrated into the network. That kind of thing.</description>
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<p>Great angle. In an Amway (Ponzi) economy, then Neil would get a cut of what I product. </p>
<p>But this is a gift economy. I think there are sufficient rewards for Neil without that kind of complex payment structure. Neil does me a favor. I&#8217;m grateful to Neil. I send him traffic. Neil feels good. Neil brags about finding good people. The more Neil finds good people, the more quickly the next people he finds are integrated into the network. That kind of thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Young</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378053</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 05:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At about minute 34 of the first video, you talk about circles of trust. Glam was your example: Neil the shoe blogger refers you. If you're good, then great. But if you're a "blithering idiot," then that hurts Neil's reputation. It boils down to this: "you recommend people, and if you recommend idiots, then you are thus an idiot."

Okay...I'm with you. I'm very much with you. But you're only talking about sticks. What about carrots? There must not only be a downside to recommending idiots; there must also be an upside to recommending geniuses. So what does Neil get out of recommending the genius who adds to Glam's bottom line?

Now, I don't doubt that there's a great answer to this question. If you recommend great people--because you have great taste--then you deserve more trust. Maybe that means Glam's more likely to serve your posts on its main site. If your posts are served more often, or more prominently, then your revenue from ads is higher. Of course, money's just one option; there are other incentives for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At about minute 34 of the first video, you talk about circles of trust. Glam was your example: Neil the shoe blogger refers you. If you&#8217;re good, then great. But if you&#8217;re a &#8220;blithering idiot,&#8221; then that hurts Neil&#8217;s reputation. It boils down to this: &#8220;you recommend people, and if you recommend idiots, then you are thus an idiot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay&#8230;I&#8217;m with you. I&#8217;m very much with you. But you&#8217;re only talking about sticks. What about carrots? There must not only be a downside to recommending idiots; there must also be an upside to recommending geniuses. So what does Neil get out of recommending the genius who adds to Glam&#8217;s bottom line?</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t doubt that there&#8217;s a great answer to this question. If you recommend great people&#8211;because you have great taste&#8211;then you deserve more trust. Maybe that means Glam&#8217;s more likely to serve your posts on its main site. If your posts are served more often, or more prominently, then your revenue from ads is higher. Of course, money&#8217;s just one option; there are other incentives for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Gavin's Blog &#183; Jeff Jarvis at the Guardian and the future of journalism</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378038</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin's Blog &#183; Jeff Jarvis at the Guardian and the future of journalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you're new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!Jeff links to two videos of him talking with staff at the Guardian about the future direction of the news [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Pål H</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378028</link>
		<dc:creator>Pål H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've taken the liberty of translating your keynote into norwegian. I belive your questions translates into any business who needs to get an important message across - and not only for media organizations.

BTW, I have no life and watched the video....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve taken the liberty of translating your keynote into norwegian. I belive your questions translates into any business who needs to get an important message across - and not only for media organizations.</p>
<p>BTW, I have no life and watched the video&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Journalistikkens framtid, ifølge Jeff Jarvis : Pål Hivand &#124; blog</title>
		<link>http://www.buzzmachine.com/2008/06/26/od-on-me/#comment-378027</link>
		<dc:creator>Journalistikkens framtid, ifølge Jeff Jarvis : Pål Hivand &#124; blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Presentasjonen (keynote) til temaet over finner du her.  addthis_url = [...]</description>
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