He has a litmus test for abortion, so why not one for guns?

For almost as long as Obama was a member of Wright’s church, he was on the board of directors of the Joyce Foundation. During that time, the JF advocated gun bans on the local, state, and national levels. (Is the last “local”?)

Maybe that’s not the JF that he thought that he knew.

Again, it can’t be stated enough: if the pressure was so intense, how come Qwest didn’t comply?

Speaks poorly of Obama, though. Remind me again why I’m supposed to vote Democrat - and make it better than the ‘lesser of two evils’ baloney…

bob wyman

I’ll defend Obama on that one. When the government forces you to do something, I believe you should be immune. I say that as someone who ran web sites and got subpoenas all the time demanding abusive commenters’ IPs, which would next be taken (usually be local police chiefs who’d been criticized in forums) to internet hosts. I found it distasteful but I didn’t have much choice. (Though this was why I also reduced the amount of time we held onto this data.) I tend to believe that government demands imply immunity. Of course, the added wrinkle in this case is the inability to fight openly — but that may be all the more reason for immunity. I know this won’t be a popular view among many Obama fans who did criticize him for this (were they called petulant?) but I do think he did the right thing.

It’s annoying, yeah, but I’m wondering how Senator Clinton would have handled those. Would she get a pass?

And seriously, the petulance in all of your political posts is really grating.

You are acting like a child. Your candidate loses, so now you fuss and complain about how the chosen candidate isn’t perfect.

Nobody is asking for blind faith, here. It is possible to support a candidate and be critical at the same time. You, however, seem to have forgotten the former, and instead have chosen to focus on the latter.

There is a very important political reality that you seem to be ignoring: the general election. As a democrat, what are you trying to say to the Obama supporters? That you don’t want to come into their tent?

Rob

Anyway, I’ll take Obama at his word. I have no disagreement with what he said. He emphasized the rights of local communities to enact “common sense” laws that dictate how the individual’s right to bear arms actually plays out. That seems pretty fair and balanced to me. You (and I) might disagree on that interpretation of the 2nd amendment, but there’s not much we (or Obama) can do about a Supreme Court decision that’s already been made now, is there?

This campaign is genuinely participatory, honestly grassroots and bottom up. We’re voting with our dollars as well as our activities, that’s part of the network.

For Barack to reject that would be wrong.

(I don’t have an opinion regarding the gun decision.)

Craig